Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Bungus Scrungus]

Yeah but he was with the Eldian peace party that went to negotiate truce (right after the Eldians caused a worldwide genocide) so he's probably going to get shot as soon as he walks through the doors.

Well fuck, he got to live another 3 years then, at least.

 

[stuffandthings]

I don't even think there's anything structurally wrong with the ending, it was built up to and it's not particularly confusing, it's just that the final chapter is kinda boring and does the absolute bare minimum. It's unsatisfying. Like a lot of manga really the authors all give up after they finish the climax. Reading it a second time with the official translation I can barely even muster up any positive or negative emotions. I'll have to wait and see how I feel about the series as a whole but I can say for sure that the ending is just sorta there. That's my best summary of the ending, "it's there".

I liked the ending. I also liked 4 out of six Transformers movies. I'm not saying it was perfect, or even great, but I don't understand the rage, because it IS consistent.

I am most confused by the ErenEdgelord dickriders who ever convinced themselves that this series wasn't going to end on a vaguely hopeful, human positive, note after a lot of suffering and loss and some weird asspulls. Nearly every single arc of the damn story ended on a vaguely hopeful, human positive note after a lot of suffering and loss and some weird asspulls. They took Isayama's sperging about 'The Mist' at face value and dreamed of a story more depressing than Schindler's List. And they took Yams strenghts and ignored the flaws in his storytelling that have been present from the very beginning.

As someone who only caught up and jumped on this hype train right as everyone started bitching about where it was going I am really confused, because for me the overall trajectory from beginning to end seems fairly clear and consistent. If you hate the story, you hate the story. It's not a GOT ending where a good story went off the rails because they changed who was laying the track in front of the speeding train, and ended up somewhere random. If you hate the destination, then you were going to be disappointed the moment you hopped on.

But the salt has been glorious to witness.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

As someone who only caught up and jumped on this hype train right as everyone started bitching about where it was going I am really confused, because for me the overall trajectory from beginning to end seems fairly clear and consistent. If you hate the story, you hate the story. It's not a GOT ending where a good story went off the rails because they changed who was laying the track in front of the speeding train, and ended up somewhere random. If you hate the destination, then you were going to be disappointed the moment you hopped on.

I wouldn't entirely agree. With GOT the deterioration is easy to point out since you can just compare it to the books but if you were completely unaware of the source material then it would seem like a gradual decline as well. The difference is that AoT, being an original story whose direction was at least planned out from the beginning(???) had hints/foreshadowing in the early chapters about all the time travelling/humanity outside the walls mumbo jumbo. But nobody was expecting this when they first picked it up. Sure, in hindsight we can point to little things from past chapters that supposedly foreshadowed the overall direction but that doesn't mean they foreshadowed the actual quality. Who would've suggested that Eren was his mom's killer just three days ago, let alone eight fucking years?

I think the basement reveal/timeskip would be a good enough point to for the story to have stopped in a this-story-has-finished-but-the-adventures-continue sort of way. That way the quality of the original story would have mostly been maintained and fans could speculate about the outside world and the characters' futures to their hearts content.

Anyway as an aside as somebody who doesn't have strong feelings one way or the other about AoT I've been enjoying the memes and meltdowns, especially on /a/. Even the Eva Rebuild ending didn't cause as much of a reaction as this trashfire.

 

[Übertroon]

I wouldn't entirely agree. With GOT the deterioration is easy to point out since you can just compare it to the books but if you were completely unaware of the source material then it would seem like a gradual decline as well. The difference is that AoT, being an original story whose direction was at least planned out from the beginning(???) had hints/foreshadowing in the early chapters about all the time travelling/humanity outside the walls mumbo jumbo. But nobody was expecting this when they first picked it up. Sure, in hindsight we can point to little things from past chapters that supposedly foreshadowed the overall direction but that doesn't mean they foreshadowed the actual quality. Who would've suggested that Eren was his mom's killer just three days ago, let alone eight fucking years?

I think the basement reveal/timeskip would be a good enough point to for the story to have stopped in a this-story-has-finished-but-the-adventures-continue sort of way. That way the quality of the original story would have mostly been maintained and fans could speculate about the outside world and the characters' futures to their hearts content.

Anyway as an aside as somebody who doesn't have strong feelings one way or the other about AoT I've been enjoying the memes and meltdowns, especially on /a/. Even the Eva Rebuild ending didn't cause as much of a reaction as this trashfire.

As an outside observer, just based on the comparison in the attached file, I would say people are right to be disappointed. The ending was lacking compared to earlier work, it certainly ruined Ymir as a character.

 

[stuffandthings]

I think the basement reveal/timeskip would be a good enough point to for the story to have stopped in a this-story-has-finished-but-the-adventures-continue sort of way. That way the quality of the original story would have mostly been maintained and fans could speculate about the outside world and the characters' futures to their hearts content.

Don't let Pieck simps hear you say that! They're rabid beasts who will tear you to pieces.

And I would respectfully disagree, because the Marley Arc is my favorite of the entire series.
But then again, my Reiner thirst is unquenchable. It's just the cringe cross I carry.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Ymir was in love with the in inscetous pedophile sadist that tortures her and raped her.

Eren is a faggot who killed people for pussy, including his own mom and then kind of forgot why he did anything until Armin beats it out of him and he admits the most pathetic thing I have ever seen a character admit. Nobody would ever say that unless it was true because it was so fucking embarrassing.

This is the canonical ending written out on the page. Anything else is a fucking cope and denial, and your own headcanon made up bullshit. It is explicitly there. I'm done arguing this. This is on the page and if you're too fucking stupid to see it, don't @ me. The only way around it is to play editor and say 'after chapter x, nothing else happened'.

It is an ending on par with mass Effect 3 and GoT and is only remotely acceptable if you hate or don't care about Eren.

In terms of storyline it is one of the worst fucking messes out there and is so fucking embarrassing it makes me laugh. Nobody accomplishes anything, 80% of humanity is still dead, this small island is probably super fucked and in the end nothing matters.

Jesus I owe Shinji an apology.

 

[Aria]

This dumbass forgot to mention that breaking bad didn't have a trash ending and especially didn't invalidate everything that came before hand.

just Imagine if, in the end, it's revealed that Walter White was just pretending to be a badass drug dealer, and that all along he was the spineless chemistry teacher and nothing else. And that we were supposed to praise this character regression because it's "consistent"

 

[Tim Buckley]

Lol at this piece of shit trying to pull a Chars counterattack. That scene with Eren showing his true lolcow self reminded me to how pathetic Char was during the end of the film, difference being Char is better written and he was always shown as a pitiful creep, he had a fitting ending. But somehow Eren gets to be remembered as some legendary hero despite his autism, that's just awful. It gives a dangerous message but since those who love this shit seem to be potential school shooters and rapists anyway then they got the ending they deserve.

2/10 cool concept at the beginning. Would not recommend, read Sonichu for your virgin with rage story needs instead.

This legit feels like the end of Sonichu 10 when Chris praises himself after genociding trolls and executing the Asperchu guys in cold blood.

 

[verissimus]

Ymir was in love with the in inscetous pedophile sadist that tortures her and raped her.

Eren is a faggot who killed people for pussy, including his own mom and then kind of forgot why he did anything until Armin beats it out of him and he admits the most pathetic thing I have ever seen a character admit. Nobody would ever say that unless it was true because it was so fucking embarrassing.

This is the canonical ending written out on the page. Anything else is a fucking cope and denial, and your own headcanon made up bullshit. It is explicitly there. I'm done arguing this. This is on the page and if you're too fucking stupid to see it, don't @ me. The only way around it is to play editor and say 'after chapter x, nothing else happened'.

It is an ending on par with mass Effect 3 and GoT and is only remotely acceptable if you hate or don't care about Eren.

In terms of storyline it is one of the worst fucking messes out there and is so fucking embarrassing it makes me laugh. Nobody accomplishes anything, 80% of humanity is still dead, this small island is probably super fucked and in the end nothing matters.

Jesus I owe Shinji an apology.

Eff that. I'd still take Eren over Shinji.

 

[Tim Buckley]

Eff that. I'd still take Eren over Shinji.

Shinji at least had the balls of COOMING into tits instead of going full Elliot Rodger.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Well apparently Eren’s JP VA liked the ending given he tweeted this post and sounded super excited to play Eren for the second half.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Shinji at least had the balls of COOMING into tits instead of going full Elliot Rodger.

AND Shinji wasn't treated like a hero or like he was in the right for what he did...

Though he did stop instrumentality in the end and allows humans to potentially return someday. If Seele or Gendo had their way that wouldn't have happened so...

Yeah Shinji is legit a better character than Eren.

 

[Tim Buckley]

AND Shinji wasn't treated like a hero or like he was in the right for what he did...

Though he did stop instrumentality in the end and allows humans to potentially return someday. If Seele or Gendo had their way that wouldn't have happened so...

Yeah Shinji is legit a better character than Eren.

Better character and better person, despise being 14 and having far less control over the shit happeneing than Eren.

 

[stuffandthings]

It is an ending on par with mass Effect 3 and GoT and is only remotely acceptable if you hate or don't care about Eren.

Lucky for me I DNGAF about Eren, and never did.

But, in retrospect, I wish that most of the denouement had been silent. We would have gotten what he was conveying without dialogue, and it would have been better than a bunch of half scenes. It would have left more up to the imagination.

Reread the issue without reading it. Erase every word bubble. Better.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Better character and better person, despise being 14 and having far less control over the shit happeneing than Eren.

“Dead mom and shitty dad” can be used to more or less summarize Shinji/Eren’s background, but there’s a major difference:

Shinji didn’t kill his own mom and turn his own father into a raving madman - they did that all of their own accord.

Shinji might have created a ton of problems for himself by being a lonely autist who didn’t know how to talk to people, but at least he wasn’t directly responsible for the circumstances that led to him growing up into a lonely autist who didn’t know how to talk to people.

Eren literally “it was me, Barry”d himself. Everything wrong with his life (except for him not fucking Mikasa, that’s actually just on him for being a socially unaware autist) is literally his own fault.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

Should I be glad that the library I visit doesn't have " Attack on Titan" manga?

 

[FaramirG]

Well apparently Eren’s JP VA liked the ending given he tweeted this post and sounded super excited to play Eren for the second half.

And Emilia Clarke called GOT S8 "the best season ever".

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly to me with the whole "mom killing" ordeal just highlights the biggest problem there is when introducing time travel or time loop elements into a story that was not about time travel or time loops. It was clearly there to show Isayama being like "Well Eren can't change the past because time travel" which shows how writers need to set clear limitations with time travel rather than haphazardly introduce it. Time travel as a concept is messy and there should've been some limitations given like for example having the Attack Titan power only be able to send thoughts to previous and future holders rather than having complete control over changing the past. Attack on Titan has shown once again why introducing time travel means that there needs to be strict rules rather than having it because time travel is cool.

EDIT: This is an autistic comparison to add but it feels like Isayama watched the fucking teen titans go movie and ripped off the part where Robin got Batman's parents killed at the end to fix the timeline so Batman would exist with Eren not bothering to prevent his Mother's death. I feel autistic for typing this.

 

[Jasper2K]

Well apparently Eren’s JP VA liked the ending given he tweeted this post and sounded super excited to play Eren for the second half.

Whats he going to say? That he hated it and potentially lose his job and disgrace his employer? Not very japanese like.

 

[Shady Attorney]

So what you’re telling me is that world genocide would’ve been averted if Eren just asked Mikasa out instead of limp-wristing the question to her? Lmao