Avowed - Obsidian's new game, like Pillars of Eternity meets Elder Scrolls

[Hermiöne Granger]

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[SIMIΔN]

In 2022, Obsidian released Grounded, an apolitical insect survival game and Pentiment, a stylised medieval murder mystery.

I loved Pillars 1/2 but it's odd to see Obsidian cosign the art director's antics and effectively tell me they don't want my money despite me buying nearly every Obsidian game post New Vegas

That isn't just some faggot. That's the guy who oversees the entire aesthetic direction of the game and, surprise surprise, Avowed looks like neon purple homosexual fantasy slop where the women all have manfaces, there isn't a single white person to be seen in any of the gameplay footage or trailers, none of the women have breasts, etc;

Yes, the fact he hasn't been fired is damning. Do they really need him during the optimisation phase?
I only hope his antics were just wokesignaling to get a pass for being a white cismale oppressor.

In any case Avowed was kind of my last hope to see a good first person RPG anytime soon. I wasn't even looking for it to be that good, just good enough to wonder around, stab monsters and maybe see what they did to update pillars lore. So since I'm shit out of luck on that I need to broaden my horizons.

It might end up being good, just not A$110 good. There's a good chance I'll buy it in a few years.

Avowed and Obsidian don't have that. In fact, POE1 had no romance and POE2 had legendarily bad romance from what I recall, people used to share around the screenshots of the fishman party members basically trying to rape you via dialogue. I have no doubt that there will be some shitty romances in this but the only party members they've shown at all is a really ugly fish dude. I don't think your average foid gamer watched In the Shape of Water so I doubt he will be a huge hit.

No romances can be good if it allows you to hear more of your companions' stories without being forced to choose.

 

[30+GameOvers]

It might end up being good, just not A$110 good. There's a good chance I'll buy it in a few years.

For the love of god don't give them money. I'm the biggest dick rider of Outer Worlds on this forum, but even I pirated it. I didn't give Obsidian a cent and I don't plan on doing so again. Get the game when Denuvo or whatever is removed from your favorite repacker site if you must play it.

 

[robobobo]

Yeah, this is already relegated to "Wait for it to be in a $5 Humble Bundle" tier for me. After WB pulled their microtransaction bullshit with Shadow of War, I held off on buying it for so long I found it for free about a month ago, and only then did I add it to my library. I can be exceedingly patient when it comes to not giving my money to someone.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

Look at how the Ubisoft exec just admitted that AC Shadows is a good deal of the teams first game

Bingo, and the people they're hiring are untalented equity hires too. So it is not even people who are competent in what they do or passionate.

That could have a buggy as fuck launch since it's made by slavs. Though even if that happens I doubt they will get much from it.

They honestly have the Bethesda pass of old yore with buggy games right now. They built a huge good faith with their community that the bugs are charming for the most part. I agree though we're gonna see some bugs probably at least humorous more than frustrating.

exactly the kind of game aimed at white men.

I'd argue at men in general. Everyone wants their shit historically accurate an fun.
Only faggots want to allude to history being rainbow and unicorns for other people's feelings.

I still cannot believe and I am eternally grateful for these devs not being able to shut their mouths about being terrible people.
God blessed our enemies with great stupidity and egos.

 

[Male Idiot]

Even before the woke reee-tardation came out, I was put off by first person.

Switching genres seldom works out. Look at Dawn of War 3.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

That's what I don't get. Discounting the fact that DEI is retarded, aren't there any competent POC/rainbow/tard people they can hire to make good games? Or is this the case of Shaniqua getting a position and then roping in her equally unqualified friends and family members Damika, Trannika, Donquisha, and Mameesha in to round up the staff?

 

[ZMOT]

aren't there any competent POC/rainbow/tard people they can hire to make good games

even if there are, the actual smart ones are smarter than work some shitty videogame dev job, just like competent whites. the pool is just waaaaaaaay smaller (remember no asians either), so all you're left with are the fakers, grifters and pseuds.

 

[Cactus Concerto]

That's what I don't get. Discounting the fact that DEI is retarded, aren't there any competent POC/rainbow/tard people they can hire to make good games? Or is this the case of Shaniqua getting a position and then roping in her equally unqualified friends and family members Damika, Trannika, Donquisha, and Mameesha in to round up the staff?

Think a large issue is that the people who are the loudest about this DEI bullshit make it their entire personality and their sole talent. Anyone likeminded has no talents or motivations outside of spreading the message, and the people with the skills or at least passion for the job aren't passionate enough about whatever's happening on Twitter so they're pinged a bad ally and Damika is chosen to make the 50 billion dollar AAA game her first professional foray into [insert position here].

 

[robobobo]

You say it's the people, I would argue that it's the system. When employers make it clear that job priority goes to paraplegic tranny polyamorous BIPoC xirs, then it behooves a prospective employee to widely advertise as many checkboxes as possible. And once they're in, if they want to keep that job they'd better make sure HR keeps hearing how much of a protected class they are. That behavior is being heavily incentivized by the madness of the current job market. I would bet you that, absent the DEI bullshit, at least half of those people would wash the purple dye out of their hair and be acting much more normal.

 

[Cactus Concerto]

You say it's the people, I would argue that it's the system. When employers make it clear that job priority goes to paraplegic tranny polyamorous BIPoC xirs, then it behooves a prospective employee to widely advertise as many checkboxes as possible. And once they're in, if they want to keep that job they'd better make sure HR keeps hearing how much of a protected class they are. That behavior is being heavily incentivized by the madness of the current job market. I would bet you that, absent the DEI bullshit, at least half of those people would wash the purple dye out of their hair and be acting much more normal.

Agreed, and I believe this is how it started. Dye jobs, a certain way of dress, claiming you're 0.01% Native American. I don't speak for the broader job market because I think a lot of more normal personalities might big up their 'woke trait' to land a job but still do perfectly fine in their position, but when it comes to shit like the arts (which video gaming has been lumped into despite being a combination of several moving spheres), hard lines for competency start flying out the window fast and you're left with whoever chimps the loudest and the truest and does the least actual work.

And then on top of that within gaming, people don't want to fucking work. So while you might have a competent team working the back end, god forbid they work a little harder than usual on any given day regardless of the game's release date because they can just patch it in two years later and still get paid for sitting around. So anyone who gives a fuck leaves the company and you're left with a cesspit of no talent, no effort, and little to no incentive to make a good product. Just money ballers and keyboard warriors.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

That's what I don't get. Discounting the fact that DEI is retarded, aren't there any competent POC/rainbow/tard people they can hire to make good games? Or is this the case of Shaniqua getting a position and then roping in her equally unqualified friends and family members Damika, Trannika, Donquisha, and Mameesha in to round up the staff?

Probably are.
But consider you're one of those people. You probably fucking hate all the weird spotlight shit people try to shove on you and pity hire you.
You're actually talented, you got where you are from your hard work and skills not because of some white savior complex.
Do you really want to work with faggots who treat you like a pet to show off on a pedestal?

 

[Something Awful]

This same director said that he actively wants to replace white men in the industry with niggers. JSawyer, head of Obsidian, tacitly endorsed this line by liking his posts.

Josh Sawyer is not the head of Obsidian. He was the director of New Vegas, Pillars of Eternity, and Pentiment, but I don't think he's working on Avowed at all.

 

[Deus Exica]

Josh Sawyer is not the head of Obsidian. He was the director of New Vegas, Pillars of Eternity, and Pentiment, but I don't think he's working on Avowed at all.

My point is that he is senior staff.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Sawyer originally wasn't working on Avowed (and was getting annoyed about being asked about it all the time on Twitter, iirc) but it seems they eventually dragged him into it.

Josh Sawyer: So in the post Deadfire phase, I was not doing a lot of direct work. I wasn't doing any direct work really, so I was focusing more on playing. You know there were DLCs for Deadfire that were being developed with Brandon Adler as the director of those. The Outer Worlds was in development at that time, so I was playing those games and getting a lot of feedback on them. But I really wasn't in a mental position to come up with new ideas for games or much less do work on them or direct anything. That’s not the case now. So I am, you know, like I'm helping on Avowed. I am in an advisory role still, but I did a little bit of writing on Avowed. I've helped out with some system design and things like that.

 

[God of Nothing]

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my fucking god
thinking ape/spell&shield must be beyond humiliated he didn't take the black pill for once

 

[CyrusHowler]

Obsidian. He was the director of New Vegas

That explains a lot.

I start having too much fun and the game goes all Obshitian on me. Thanks Sawyer you faggot.

 

["Controlled Demolition"]

Thats also why story and design suffer. It’s no different than if the team were dogmatic Christians and everything was scripture and sermons.

You get Super 3D Noah's Ark. And that is, as the kids say, based.

my fucking god
thinking ape/spell&shield must be beyond humiliated he didn't take the black pill for once

It's not real, you fuckin' donkey. The real ones are nearly as funny.

It even finishes off with (out-of-character) Psychological Horror. I imagine the Steam jannies will mop up the mess shortly before release.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

It even finishes off with (out-of-character) Psychological Horror.

It's not really that out of character, Psychological Horror has become a joke tag that gets added to every woke game for a while now.

 

[Rungle]

Even if the game is bad.

The cool ass skeleton as its art is beautiful