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The 2025 draft started about an hour ago. So far:

  • the Nationals take high school shortstop Eli Willits with the top pick
  • the Angels take righty Tyler Bremner #2 from UC Santa Barbara
  • Seattle takes lefty Kade Anderson from LSU with pick #3
  • the Rockies take high school shortstop Ethan Holliday, another son of Matt Holliday and brother of Jackson (#1 overall pick in 2022) at #4
  • St. Louis takes lefty Liam Doyle at #5 from Tennessee
  • Pittsburgh goes with a high school righty, Seth Hernandez at #6
  • Miami (Aiva Arquette,) Toronto (JoJo Parker,) Cincinnati (Steele Hall,) and the White Sox (Billy Carlson, teammate of Hernandez) all take shortstops at #7, #8, #9 and #10
Bremner looks like a bit of a surprise by the Angels. He was ranked to be around a top 15-20 pick.

Edit: 27 picks in and the run on shortstops has continued with the following teams selecting one.

Rangers #12
Giants #13
Rays #14
Twins #16
Diamondbacks #18
Astros #21
Braves #22
Tigers #24

So far all of the shortstops have been high schoolers except the #7, #13 and #16 picks.
 
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OJ Simpson said:
t's always been bullshit and a myth. Boston has never been any more or less "racist" than any other city throughout America over the course of history.
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Boston got that reputation because the bleeding hearts insisted on busing during the height of the Civil Rights bullshit. Busing wasn't any more popular in Boston than it was anywhere else, but the potato niggers were willing to get violent over it, so the press was shocked, shocked that some whites weren't goodwhites and just doing peaceful protests like elsewhere. As we've seen in recent years, if you keep telling badwhites they're bad because they're racist, eventually, they'll just say "Hey, maybe you have a point."

I agree that modern Boston is no more racist than any other Deep Blue urban bughive, but the niggers and the press will never forgive those uppity micks who didn't get with the program and decided to voice their displeasure with baseball bats and chains instead of strongly-worded letters.
 
4090 Chad said:
I think the Angels went the poverty route with their pick and picked a guy who would sign pretty well under slot value so they could spend more on other picks in the draft.
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Minasian's MO since his first year as the Angels GM has always been college guys who can get to the Majors fast (Bachman, Neto, Schanuel and Moore), and then spend on high school guys at the 10 or 11 round. He's been consistent on high floor, low ceiling guys, but what is mildly infuriating is that this is the first time in nearly 30 years they've had a top 5 five pick (last was Troy Glaus in 97 at 3rd), they could've gone with someone more exciting than a potential mid rotation starter.
 
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Minasian's MO since his first year as the Angels GM has always been college guys who can get to the Majors fast (Bachman, Neto, Schanuel and Moore), and then spend on high school guys at the 10 or 11 round. He's been consistent on high floor, low ceiling guys, but what is mildly infuriating is that this is the first time in nearly 30 years they've had a top 5 five pick (last was Troy Glaus in 97 at 3rd), they could've gone with someone more exciting than a potential mid rotation starter.
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Kind of interesting because Minasian was an Alex Anthopoulos disciple in Toronto.

Anthopoulos was Assistant GM to JP Ricciardi with the Jays in the aughts. Ricciardi was hired early in the aughts as a Billy Beane acolyte who promised a cheap Jays ownership that he could repeat the Moneyball magic and win on the cheap by drafting high-floor college position players like Russ Adams and Aaron Hill that would sign cheap and rise fast. Along with going cheap and building a bullpen off the waiver wire.

Halfway through the aughts, the Jays were no closer to catching the Yanks or the Red Sox, so ownership and Ricciardi shifted gears and tried to buy a playoff team by signing AJ Burnett, BJ Ryan and Frank Thomas & trading for Lyle Overbay & Troy Glaus.

The investment in payroll also failed with the Jays never finishing closer than a distant third (or not being close to the WC at all).

Ricciardi would get canned around 2010-11 and Anthopoulos would get hired as the young, cheap internal Canadian boy from Montreal.

AA's draft philosophy shifted to almost drafting exclusively high-risk HS pitchers early that the org had previously avoided completely for fear of bonus demands and avoidance of angering Selig by surpassing league bonus slot recommendations, to keep revenue sharing money flowing to offset the weak loonie.

Anthopoulos would amass extra picks and would draft the likes of Noah Syndergaard, Aaron Sanchez, Joe Musgrove, Tyler Beede, Phil Bickford, Daniel Norris, etc.

The org had a philosophy to draft almost exclusively pitchers because the thinking was that position players were easier to buy as FAs and trades.

AA also showed a willingness to draft HS pitchers with big demands then walking away if they wouldn't meet his cutoff, in the likes of Tyler Beede and Phil Bickford in quick succession.

Like the Angels more recently, AA would also use monies left over from 1st rounders who didn't sign by signing difficult signs after the 10th round in Rowdy Tellez and Jake Brentz. He'd also raise money for high round expensive signs by drafting & low-balling college senior pitchers with no leverage in the 8th-10th rounds. Some that actually had great careers like Matt Boyd & Kendall Graveman.
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
It's another example of leaguewide and commissioner-initiated collusion like Trevor Bauer to keep a player out of the game.
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It's absurd what they're doing to Bauer because he had the gall to defend himself against the allegations. They're mad at him even though Bauer proved the woman going after him was intentionally setting him up.
 
As an old man HRD doesn't matter to me but nice to see SEA get a nod to W.

Now let me also sober up and reply to Bonds. I have mad props for him but I just can't put into words right now. Next year All Star Game will be in my home town (well locally) and I'm amped. Being a very hitter park it'll be spicy.

The best HRD was in Pittsburg, balls kept going into the water and people jumped off boats to grab one. Also Ryan Howard did well but aside that was just so cool. Everyone hit one past the park!

Judge fastest EVER to 350 HR. He's a monster.

Thank you for draft post, but BB draft doesn't grab me too much no offense to your work or following. I saw this girl the other day had a phillies shirt on it said Bohm, and the B was lower case and in the Phillies P just upside down.
I gotta say love illegal merch. On that note, who's your fav city conect?
 
The all-star game has ended in a 6-6 tie. This is the first time there is a tie with the new "Home Run Swing Off" tie-breaker rules if you want to watch.

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National League wins, with a 3/3 performance by Kyle Schwarber. The AL selection for Homerun hitters was pretty bad so it must have been based on volunteers or rather most of the players really didn't want to do it so they took who they could.
 
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The guys of American Thinker posted a rant about the all-star game that wasn't and Stacy Abrams that might be worth to check.

July 15, 2025

The All-Star Game That Wasn’t: Stacey Abrams, MLB, and the $100 Million Strikeout​

By Charlton Allen

Tonight, the 2025 Major League Baseball All-Star Game will be played at Truist Park in metro Atlanta. It’s a celebratory event—four years overdue—but few in the media or the commissioner’s office want to talk about what happened last time.

In 2021, Commissioner Rob Manfred yanked this very event out of Georgia over a so-called voting rights controversy fueled by Stacey Abrams and her political machine.

The justification? Georgia’s election law, Senate Bill 202, was labeled “Jim Crow 2.0.” The damage? Nearly $100 million in lost revenue for local businesses. Yet, this story started long before SB 202.

The punchline? SB 202 is still the law—intact, enforced, and functional.

Abrams’s group, Fair Fight Action, launched its high-profile legal crusade after her 2018 loss to Brian Kemp, claiming Georgia’s voting laws were racist and suppressive.

Fair Fight selected Abrams’s campaign chair and close friend, Allegra Lawrence-Hardy, to serve as lead counsel, paying her firm over $20.2 million in legal fees over five years, according to a bombshell RealClearInvestigations exposé.
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Looseleaf Paper said:
This is the first time there is a tie with the new "Home Run Swing Off" tie-breaker rules if you want to watch.
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If they were gonna make it a HR Derby tie-breaker to reduce injury, they should have 1 through 9 have a swing each (subbing in and prioritizing position players present who have not yet gotten an AB) while keeping the alternating format to add possible tension/clutch moments.
W00K #17 said:
I hate the timed format, 10 outs format was so much better.
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The fuck are they doing? This isn't a game that averages 3 hours pre-pitch clock, it's the fucking HR Derby where the guys should be allowed to chug beers in between swings (I kid but it would be very funny if they let them do that).
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
- said he picked Curt Schilling to be the ASG SP in Seattle and Randy Johnson pouted and "Don't come back to me asking to play".
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Johnson's notorious for being a sourpuss and Schilling got too based and turned into a borderline lolcow.
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
accused Joe Torre in the AL of being a spineless pussy filling the roster with all his Yankee guys because he was too scared to have them mad at him by picking others
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I remember in the voting for the 2015 ASG, a bunch of us Royals fans did a 4chan-style raid where we spammed the ballots with all Royals. Other fanbases got mad, so we doubled down and voted in even mediocre players until the league put a stop to it.

Good times.
Franz Joseph said:
Since we are sharing "Bonds is a massive piece of shit" stories I got one.
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I recall Jim Rome once reporting that a former player (I wanna say Ron Kittle?) asked him to sign a jersey for a sick kid. Bonds responded "I don't sign for white people".

Not sure if that happened or if I'm getting details wrong, but compared to the other anecdotes, it tracks.
 
Armor of God said:
His stats make for a clear Hall of Fame case, however given how much of a negative influence he was, I really can't blame anyone for Bonds being left off of ballots (and this is even if he never took steroids). He's quite possibly the worst person who has ever played a sport professionally.
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The only thing that should matter for the HOF is stats. If people want a separate museum to honor the truly nice guys of the game, then do that. Maybe build it in Silvertown or something.
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
It's another example of leaguewide and commissioner-initiated collusion like Trevor Bauer to keep a player out of the game.
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I sympathize with Bauer because I think that he's an exceptional talent. The problem is that whether we like it or not, his inability to just shut the fuck up and stop being so terminally online has basically made him radioactive to locker rooms that just don't want to deal with such issues.

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Of course, this didn't stop some in the soy addled press to run with Barry's claims, you got your typical Reddit tier articles like "Bostons dark history with racism" and shit like that.
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OJ Simpson said:
As an aside, I've been sick of the Boston is uniquely racist horseshit since I first started seeing it when posting on other forums that had a sports section starting in the late 00's/early 2010's. It's always been bullshit and a myth. Boston has never been any more or less "racist" than any other city throughout America over the course of history.
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Major Filth said:
I agree that modern Boston is no more racist than any other Deep Blue urban bughive, but the niggers and the press will never forgive those uppity micks who didn't get with the program and decided to voice their displeasure with baseball bats and chains instead of strongly-worded letters.
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The idea that Boston is somewhat uniquely racist is laughable. Chicago for example, is segregated as fuck. The niggers don't dare go to the Latin areas and the Slavs/Whites are in other areas of the city. I remember during the summer of peaceful protests how Latin Kings were hunting down any niggers who got anywhere close to their turf.

Another example would be Baltimore. While most people automatically assume that it's a nigger-infested shithole (which it totally is), just try walking through the jew areas of Baltimore as a non-kike. They have their own neighborhood patrol which straight up starts whacking motherfuckers with billy clubs or some shit with absolutely no recourse from real law enforcement.

Unarmed Gunman said:
The only thing that should matter for the HOF is stats. If people want a separate museum to honor the truly nice guys of the game, then do that. Maybe build it in Silvertown or something.
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You should go back and read all of the incidents that I've compiled. His own team-mates beat the dog shit out of him on several occasions because he was so fucking insufferable.

The nigger was exceptional as a hitter (although most of his achievements are rendered moot due to steroids) but there's a reason why he never won. You can't win with a locker room that wants to fucking kill its best player because he's on some Ethan Ralph tier nigger shit at all times.

If he was just a wife beater or some shit then you may have a point, but this nigger was something else. Mind you that this isn't even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Bonds stories. I literally got tired of reading through all of the material that's out there.
 
Armor of God said:
Mind you that this isn't even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Bonds stories. I literally got tired of reading through all of the material that's out there.
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The dude was one of the best to ever play, on and off of steroids. And the hypocritical sports writers who pretend to care now about steroids didn't say shit when it was happening, nor did the commissioner at the time who is also in the HOF.

Armor of God said:
there's a reason why he never won.
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Ted Williams never won a World Series, should he not be in the HOF? For that matter, Tony Gwynn, Ichiro, Griffey Jr and on an on - tons of great players never won. Shit Mike Trout had one of the greatest stretches in history and will no doubt be a 1st ballot HOF'er but he could barely drag his team to the playoffs, and won nothing. Baseball is one sport that a great player simply can't take over and drag his team to victory, so I don't get this point.

Also, Ty Cobb was not only one of the greatest hitters ever, but an ornery prick to a lot of people especially in the press. He never won, should he not be in the HOF?

Sorry dude, your logic is flawed and inconsistent. This sort of just comes off as you having an unhealthy autistic obsession with a specific player.
 
Bauer's issue now is that his performance in NPB this season has not been good. Even with what is being called a dead ball era, his ERA was the highest in NPB of all starting pitchers prior to his recent demotion/roster removal with the Baystars.
 
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Bauer's issue now is that his performance in NPB this season has not been good. Even with what is being called a dead ball era, his ERA was the highest in NPB of all starting pitchers prior to his recent demotion/roster removal with the Baystars.
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Trevor's main issue is that he's 34 turning 35.

Manfred's shenanigans have cost him 4 years of his prime and earning potential, which is never redeemable for athletes and pitchers.

It has also created the unfortunate "broken clock" scenario where the Reddit NPC mouthbreathers cheering his banishment and claiming he's not good enough for the Mexican or NPB leagues, let alone the majors, are probably finally correct all these years later. Father time spares no one.

There's also the issue of simply being out of the top-level of the game and MLB-quality training methods for 4 years. We see how awful most FAs who holdout prior to ST and return mid-season end up performing when they return.

Bauer does seem to be a fitness and innovation freak. His YT channel does show that he's been continuing to pitch and train with college players in his own facility over the years. I saw a video from the spring where he went to Europe and pitched against the Czech national team in an exhibition.
 
Just a quick rant: I hated that Home run derby tiebreaker. Turned the game off for that. I really loved extra innings as they were. Some of my best memories of watching games are ones that went on thru the night in extras. Free baseball. If they really want to make the game shorter get rid of commercial breaks but oh no can't do that.
 
Fleetwood said:
Just a quick rant: I hated that Home run derby tiebreaker. Turned the game off for that. I really loved extra innings as they were. Some of my best memories of watching games are ones that went on thru the night in extras. Free baseball. If they really want to make the game shorter get rid of commercial breaks but oh no can't do that.
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I'm sure most recall, but the modern tiebreaker at the MLB ASG (along with it at one point deciding home field advantage for the World Series) was because of all the hate towards Bud Selig when the 2002 MLB ASG in Milwaukee ended in a 7-7 draw after 11 innings after both sides had run out of pitchers.
 
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