BitChute is not at all decentralized or peer-to-peer, despite its claims

[dreamworks face]

I think Hotwheels is right about the bitchute now - it's definitely serving static links for the videos. Looking through it, I do see that it's trying to use asm.js to load webtorrent (which is a js bittorrent client), but it's not actually using it to download the videos. It should be possible to use webassembly / asm.js to load videos via bittorrent and play them with current javascript/browsers, and if a site like that doesn't actually exist, it's definitely within the realm of current front end technology - but I thought it was this site that's doing it, so it is bs that it's not. It seems like it would be a fun project.

 

[Superman93]

Why post this here and now? What, you failed one community so now you have to mingle in someone else's?
I appreciate the informative post. It's a lot better than then other 90% of threads in A&H but I don't really trust you.

 

[Token Weeaboo]

It's the cost of entry

How is it a cost of entry to get on BitChute by being an alt-right yadda yadda?

 

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I think Hotwheels is right about the bitchute now - it's definitely serving static links for the videos. Looking through it, I do see that it's trying to use asm.js to load webtorrent (which is a js bittorrent client), but it's not actually using it to download the videos. It should be possible to use webassembly / asm.js to load videos via bittorrent and play them with current javascript/browsers, and if a site like that doesn't actually exist, it's definitely within the realm of current front end technology - but I thought it was this site that's doing it, so it is bs that it's not. It seems like it would be a fun project.

That is indeed correct. WebTorrent is referred to in the source code but isn't actually used.

I'm not sure why they don't use it. They also say they're "delisting" a video instead of "deleting" it even though they maintain the only list. They use the language of decentralization without any real decentralization.

 

[AnOminous]

It's the type of article that would be posted in this subforum. I feel it's a type of historic first, first reporter to post their own article to the Farms. I also am the first party to a legal complaint to post their own complaint here.

In short, it's fun.

Wrong, nool has posted multiple complaints against himself here, including two in the Supreme Court.

 

[Bongsnake McGee]

Tabloid level journalism, how very appropriate.

 

[AnOminous]

This is the only place that gives him attention or knows who he is. The 54 55 replies in 20mins prove that. God damnit I am posting in a bait thread. I am part of the problem

OP is a fat faggot.

 

[BlancoMailo]

That is indeed correct. WebTorrent is referred to in the source code but isn't actually used.

I'm not sure why they don't use it. They also say they're "delisting" a video instead of "deleting" it even though they maintain the only list. They use the language of decentralization without any real decentralization.

You must not have looked very deeply into the site's history then, when Bitchute first started, it used the torrents but disabled them well over a year ago due to several issues (not enough users to seed, weird streaming glitches that were happening resulting in never-ending loading, and then a bunch of people choosing to opt out of the torrent system a few months later).

Don't know if they plan on reenabling the p2p system again, I doubt they know themselves.

 

[Sam Losco]

What is the fucking point of this "article"? Did anyone actually believe that BitChute was ever 100% peer-to-peer? That's not even possible given how torrents work. Even regular torrents still require a tracker (unless you use DHT or peer exchange) and thus are vulnerable to being shut down. But that's not even how BitChute worked because people were only peers while viewing a video. So even when they did use the WebTorrent function, BitChute would not only have to have whatever the WebTorrent equivalent of a tracker is, but they would have to have seed boxes with every video. Yeah, it's centralized. No fucking shit.

Wait, is BitChute doing business with Jim Watkins? Is that why you wrote this?

 

[ThePurpleProse]

But neo-Nazis (& other "undesirables") aren't allowed on YouTube, so they choose the largest place they're allowed to gather.

What the fuck is a nazi today for you? I classify pantifa faggots and the lgbt+ subhumans as nazis, their behavior, ideology and overall look is the same.

If you're referring to the autistic fucks that keep flooding the comment sections of BitChute with jew memes and essays about how jews control the world you just gotta look their comment history to see they're as fucking mental as your average american lefty.

So how in the fucking world can you sperg out and entire article with this subplot while ignoring twitter?

 

[I should be working]

What is the fucking point of this "article"? Did anyone actually believe that BitChute was ever 100% peer-to-peer?

From the perspective of someone who didn't know about the Peer-to-peer angle of Bitchute and just used it to watch Metokur, Kiwifarms, Styx and weird alien conspiracy videos, all I got from the article was:
"Nazi bad! Nazi get free speech? Free speech bad!"

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

I think the more important question here is: what's your fursona?

 

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What is the fucking point of this "article"? Did anyone actually believe that BitChute was ever 100% peer-to-peer?

They are 0% peer to peer. Apparently at some point they were using some glitchy WebTorrent implementation (they wrote as much to me in their reply), but now have removed all pretense as it's just all so hard...

Your criticisms are all valid. The idea for this article arose when someone was shilling BitChute to me and I began asking questions about how it worked, similar to the ones you asked here.

They lie in their Twitter bio and other places about this. They lie to their donors. They have no workable plan for decentralization/p2p, and are not in any way p2p at the moment. That's what I want people to know.

 

[CIA Nigger]

It's easily provable. Let's assume users want the largest number of other users to see their posts. If YouTube had BitChute's policies, neo-Nazis, et cetera, would just use YouTube, BitChute would be essentially Dailymotion.com, a competitor without a raison d'être.

But neo-Nazis (& other "undesirables") aren't allowed on YouTube, so they choose the largest place they're allowed to gather. This by itself means Gab, BitChute, etc., are full of Nazis, even with perfectly politically neutral moderation. Those making makeup tutorials prefer YouTube: they can earn an income and their content is allowed there. To upload your makeup tutorials to BitChute exclusively is to hurt yourself economically, only a zealous partisan would do it. So, that's why BitChute serves as a repository for everything banned from YouTube and not much else.

First of all, I think it's funny you're whining about Nazis when you wrote that pro-eugenics article for the Daily Stormer, a website that fits the "cesspool of hate" definition far moreso than 8chan or BitChute. But let's get back to the point here, which is YouTube's policies.

YouTube is literally shooting itself in the foot over and over again. It seems like every other week there's a new scandal with YouTube and creators threatening to leave the site forever. It's getting a lot harder to earn an income on YouTube thanks to COPPA, demonetization, and anti-user policies. Hence when more and more content people want to watch becomes "everything banned from YouTube", alternatives will grow. One day it's edgy "the Jews did this" videos, the next it's more mainstream people on the right, the next it's some grown man talking about Lego sets, the next it's a guy doing a playthrough of a kids video game.

There definitely is a market for a YouTube alternative, but if it makes all the same mistakes YouTube did it's going to fail. I doubt BitChute is going to be that alternative but one will pop up at this rate.

If your motive is to shut down "Nazi gathering sites", then I regret to inform you that as the Tumblr collapse showed the containment board theory does in fact work. They won't go away, they'll just make sock accounts on mainstream news site comment boxes and social media sites like they do now. When Tumblr shutdown, Twitter became even more like Tumblr and parts of it's unique culture followed over. The same can be seen with the slow demise of Something Awful and how the goons ended up elsewhere online.

 

[Coldgrip]

I can't decide if op is gay or a faggot.

 

[ThePurpleProse]

Your criticisms are all valid. The idea for this article arose when someone was shilling BitChute to me and I began asking questions about how it worked, similar to the ones you asked here.

Nigger, no one buy this shit, you went as far as to bother typing this gem:

Felix Lace, better known under the moniker “Black Pigeon Speaks”, who according to Harvard University’s Shorenstein Center is “xenophobic, misogynist, [and] anti-Semitic,”

Why the fuck would you include this knowing that is demonstrably false?

Can you even stop dodging the questions that don't talk about the centralized core of BitChute?

 

[I should be working]

They are 0% peer to peer. Apparently at some point they were using some glitchy WebTorrent implementation (they wrote as much to me in their reply), but now have removed all pretense as it's just all so hard...

Your criticisms are all valid. The idea for this article arose when someone was shilling BitChute to me and I began asking questions about how it worked, similar to the ones you asked here.

They lie in their Twitter bio and other places about this. They lie to their donors. They have no workable plan for decentralization/p2p, and are not in any way p2p at the moment. That's what I want people to know.

So what does that have to do with it being a "social media site ... full of neo-Nazis and other undesirables."?

is it dog whistle to warn Nazis about bitchute? fluff to reach a required word count? you just suckling the tit of mainstream media faggotry? are you just a bad fucking writer?

 

[BrunoMattei]

BitChute should have just told the truth from the beginning: they're just as centralized as vid.me or Vimeo, all the WebTorrent woo was a failed attempt at creating differentiation where none existed. All their GitHub contains is some silly cryptocurrency which they don't use in their operation.

Instead they lied to everyone. Their infrastructure is probably vulnerable to deplatforming as a result, if someone were to pursue it, as they are not decentralized at all.

Pay close attention to the lyrics. They pertain to you.

 

[X Prime]

He answered why all the tangential Nazi stuff is in the article.

Hotwheels had to write that so that the Shorenstein Center of Harvard would connect him to the Daily Dot.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

Dailydot?

Jesus christ if a meth'd out crack head aka Hunter Biden was jamming an ice pick into my brain I still wouldn't believe the sky was blue if they told me.

Fuck off.