Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

The Last Stand said:
I heard there's side missions for an investigative plot line. Are these intergal to the endings? I remember Black Ops II did something like that with Strike Force missions. In reality, they were multiplayer maps with a sorry excuse of squad commanding.
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There is side objectives in missions and clues you can find to aid in solving the ARG mission that hangs over the entirety of the campaign. It's similar to Zombies easter eggs, in that there is little in the way of game telling you what to do and you have to figure it out yourself.
As for several endings, there are choices you can make during missions that will lead you one of a few endings, that includes dialogue choices for the first time. I'm not going to spoil more, but it is definitely a lot like Black Ops 2. I don't believe there are any Strike Force like missions, it's all original content in single player.
Unrelated, but there is a Zombies mode where you actually get to play on Multiplayer maps, a survival mode within a survival mode if you will. There is an arcade twin stick shooter minigame in Zombies as well, and an open world Zombies experience on top of traditional Zombies maps and THEN you get Multiplayer. I've been shitting on modern COD a lot, but if you're only going to play one of them, Cold War is definitely a good deal if you can find it for 30-35$
 
Bros I miss classic MW2 so much. The maps, the music, the characters, the late night game battles/team tactical/Search & Destroy with the lads. I was hoping Nu-MW3 would capture more of the OG MW2/3 since they brought back all the maps (minus DLC) from MW2.

Luckily there's still IW4x with offline bots to recapture some of that.
 
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Modern Warfare 3 Players Requesting Refunds After Poor Campaign (tech4gamers archive)

An update to the previous story about Modern Warfare III being a top seller on Steam. People are rightfully refunding Modern Warfare III on Steam.
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What the hell is this story supposed to be? I'm watching the cutscenes on YouTube. I do not understand a damn thing about this. All they do is talk and talk without providing anything of value. They just name dropped Makarov out of nowhere and expect us to understand his motivation through bland expository dialogue.
 
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The Last Stand said:
What the hell is this story supposed to be? I'm watching the cutscenes on YouTube. I do not understand a damn thing about this. All they do is talk and talk without providing anything of value. They just name dropped Makarov out of nowhere and expect us to understand his motivation through bland expository dialogue.
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I was told the campaign is 4 hours long, and looked up a cutscene comp and it clocked in at an hour and 40 minutes.

Jesus Christ, there's like no gameplay in the campaign is there? I'm not willing to watch an hour and a half of this shit.

Edit: I just read a plot synopsis and the whole fucking thing seems to be based around Verdansk? With like nothing concerning AQ or the Cartel?

Didn't what's his name at the end of Modern Warfare II claim that AQ wasn't just attacking the US but they were invading? What the fuck happened to AQ and the Cartel and shit?

Why even bother with these campaigns anymore? Are they purposefully trying to make them shit so people ask them to stop making them after the poor reception to BO4 not having a campaign?
 
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If I recall correctly:

Shepherd betrayed TF141 near the end of the game through an ambush after collecting intel on Makarov at his safehouse. That intel revealed that Makarov and Shepherd collaborated together to prolong WWIII. Shepherd wanted WWIII to be declared a hero after 30,000 men were killed by a nuke, but little did he know, he played in Makarov's hand with having HIS operative take the blame for the airport massacre.

That was properly established through dialogue and another game to set the stage.

With the reboot, Shepherd and Makarov just appears out of nowhere. What was even the point of Graves betraying you in Mexico if Barkov was dead in MW2019? Was Hassan an underling to Makarov?
 
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Bros I miss classic MW2 so much. The maps, the music, the characters, the late night game battles/team tactical/Search & Destroy with the lads. I was hoping Nu-MW3 would capture more of the OG MW2/3 since they brought back all the maps (minus DLC) from MW2.

Luckily there's still IW4x with offline bots to recapture some of that.
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Did you play on console? Because if you were on PC like me, I doubt you would have fond memories of that catastrophe in comparison to CoD4.
 
The Last Stand said:
What the hell is this story supposed to be? I'm watching the cutscenes on YouTube. I do not understand a damn thing about this. All they do is talk and talk without providing anything of value. They just name dropped Makarov out of nowhere and expect us to understand his motivation through bland expository dialogue.
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The campaign is so forgettable that I genuinely don’t even remember what Makarov’s motivation was.
 
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I think you're overthinking Makarov and Shepherd in this timeline. You're not supposed to question their motives or actions, you're supposed to react like this:

Then you're supposed to congratulate IW/Sledgehammer on how hecking awesome of a movie they crafted, not one afraid to tackle the controversial issues!

I felt this even back in the original MW4/2019 reboot, it was trying way too hard. Price was fine, but Ghost, Somali Gaz and the rest were just awful. I think Soap was fine in 5 and 6 but he ends up dying like a bitch, no build up to it to make you care. Reminds me of the "emotional deaths" in Starfield where a random companion you were the closest to dies, complete with glitched out animations and similar lack of build up to their character. I also didn't like how the story of MW2019 felt like fed propaganda instead of a fun action movie that the OG trilogy tried to be. MW5 and MW6 stories were just straight up stupid, shall we go over why bombing a Mexican village, even one with a Cartel mansion, will NOT go over well once the news spreads? Or how stupid it is to release a terrorist leader once you got him over some bullshit geneva convention laws?

Well what do you know, the original MW and BO trilogy still stands the test of time and did NOT need to be remade, what a shock. Hilarious that bitch-made retards who spend 70$ on this want a refund, as if that's going to happen. You will have an easier time avoiding the boys in Activision offices if you're a breast milk producing female than getting your money back from these vultures.
 
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xXx: State of the Union said:
Modern Warfare 3 Players Requesting Refunds After Poor Campaign (tech4gamers archive)

An update to the previous story about Modern Warfare III being a top seller on Steam. People are rightfully refunding Modern Warfare III on Steam.
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How do you manage to make a CoD campaign so bad even the niggercattle who keep buying this slop start complaining?

It's not like the campaigns were anything more than scriptastic setpiecefests that play themselves half the time.
 
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ellroy said:
Did you play on console? Because if you were on PC like me, I doubt you would have fond memories of that catastrophe in comparison to CoD4.
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I played console back then, and it's where my memories formed. Had a great time being sweaty in gamebattles, and hunting FFA boosters in mw2. Not to mention the occasional cod4 with frags that would travel across the map, waw and bo1 zombies. Mw3 infection. Great times. I know it's the cod thread, but bf3 was also really fun during this time, as well has Halo 3 and Reach.

Unfortunately, the only game that's still playable and able to capture the essence of how it was originally is Halo (mainly three in my case), as custom games are still thriving.
 
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Mack from Worth a Buy apparently liked the campaign for MW6. Take that as you will, he's one of the few youtubers I still trust these days and he gave it a 6.5/10. His comment section is also tearing him apart for it.
The price is still terrible and the game isn't very long, so it might be a good weekend play if you have Game Pass, but that's about it. I still wouldn't, just purely by the ridiculous size of the game, you could easily dedicate an entire HDD just for this game alone and nothing else. At the end of the day, nothing will change the fact that this is just a campaign DLC for MW5/MWII, since most missions are open roaming Warzone setpieces, so there is no way this couldn't just be a new mode for that game since pretty much all the assets are already there, just add new characters and weapons. Oh wait, there weren't any new weapons at launch.
 
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Agent of Z.O.G. said:
How do you manage to make a CoD campaign so bad even the niggercattle who keep buying this slop start complaining?

It's not like the campaigns were anything more than scriptastic setpiecefests that play themselves half the time.
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It’s pretty bad. Even the Woke church is mad. Granted, for a really stupid conspiratorial reason (they think the devs killed Soap so he can’t be with Ghost:story:), but they’re still aware it’s bad.

I don’t know who they thought they’d have on their side with this one. Even by modern corporate standards this was a lead paint eater move.

I wonder if there will be damage control.
 
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Mack from Worth a Buy apparently liked the campaign for MW6. Take that as you will, he's one of the few youtubers I still trust these days and he gave it a 6.5/10. His comment section is also tearing him apart for it.
The price is still terrible and the game isn't very long, so it might be a good weekend play if you have Game Pass, but that's about it. I still wouldn't, just purely by the ridiculous size of the game, you could easily dedicate an entire HDD just for this game alone and nothing else. At the end of the day, nothing will change the fact that this is just a campaign DLC for MW5/MWII, since most missions are open roaming Warzone setpieces, so there is no way this couldn't just be a new mode for that game since pretty much all the assets are already there, just add new characters and weapons. Oh wait, there weren't any new weapons at launch.
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Mack is right about the gun sounds, IW made a lot of progress with MW2019, the guns didn't sound like shitty compressed mp3 files from the OG MW up to Ghosts. Sound design used to be a major element that made the Battlefield series far superior to CoD, especially with the "war tapes" sound setting.
As for the campaign itself, I have not bought the game yet (I'm waiting to see more about the zombies stuff, I might get it if the experience is like in Cold War). The semi-open world aspect is a good thing but it's clear that they didn't think too much about it and just used the Warzone framework and called it a day.
Mack is not a CoD guy so he doesn't really care about the multiplayer part but I will wait for his MWIII Zombies review.
 
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Mack is right about the gun sounds, IW made a lot of progress with MW2019, the guns didn't sound like shitty compressed mp3 files from the OG MW up to Ghosts. Sound design used to be a major element that made the Battlefield series far superior to CoD, especially with the "war tapes" sound setting.
As for the campaign itself, I have not bought the game yet (I'm waiting to see more about the zombies stuff, I might get it if the experience is like in Cold War). The semi-open world aspect is a good thing but it's clear that they didn't think too much about it and just used the Warzone framework and called it a day.
Mack is not a CoD guy so he doesn't really care about the multiplayer part but I will wait for his MWIII Zombies review.
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The consensus on MW6 story is that the story is shit, game is too short and AI is awful since rather than having a ton of enemy combat scenarios crafted for smaller engagements, they have to account for much more open space and it often leads to them just going thru doorways one by one and getting shot in the face. In the older games, if you tried that, enemies would try to flank or throw grenades, for example.
I guess if you like the idea of a Warzone campaign and Warzone zombies, it might be worth a download but definitely not for 70$. This is a Gamepass rental at best, I doubt it will get enough content to keep on your HDD unlike Cold War.
 
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MW2019's motif was "we get dirty, and the world stays clean." Meanwhile, Shepherd's Shadow Company "betrays" 141/Los Vesquerzes for the greater good to get Hassan. Wouldn't that be the same thing? It cannot even keep up with its own leitmotif.
 
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MW5 and MW6 stories were just straight up stupid, shall we go over why bombing a Mexican village, even one with a Cartel mansion, will NOT go over well once the news spreads?
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Or American black ops supersecret special forces just rolling up on a Mexican military facility in Mexico with helicopters and armor, declaring it's theirs, and killing everyone? But yeah, after invading Mexico, they totally won't stick a terrorist in a shipping container somewhere. That would break the law.

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(they think the devs killed Soap so he can’t be with Ghost:story:),
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Right-wing COD critics: I wish the plot made sense
Left-wing COD critics: I wish these two dudes would suck each other off
 
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