Camo / Camouflage

[ConspicuousArdiunoDue]

Camo is great for LOS detection from the naked eye, however taking into consideration that even a basic retard can afford and pilot a drone with a 1080p camera and thermal/nightvision systems are becoming more mainstream and affordable, there are other considerations to make. Some of your best "camo" will be cover and concealment and planned movement over already realized avenues of egress/approach.

Here are a couple of helpful videos on camo from my favorite guy on this, S2 Underground:

• Point on drones:

• Point on NVS/Thermals

 

[Meat Target]

can afford and pilot a drone with a 1080p camera and thermal/nightvision systems are becoming more mainstream and affordable

You can overwhelm FLIR if you just start setting fire to everything in sight.

 

[User names must be unique]

This is the single most effective urban camo on the market.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

As someone that dearly loves Desert DPM - it doesn't work anywhere outside of sandpits I know for a fact you'd stick out like the sorest of thumbs wearing DesertDPM anywhere in the temperate regions of the planet.

It really depends where you are. Here's a good example of how it works in dry brush in the winter in a more southern climate. Think like the kind of environment one would use the civvy duck hunting reed camo in.

But it does stick out like a sore thumb the moment things get just a little bit green or there's snow on the ground, yes. In the north you would have only a couple weeks to use it before the snow hits.

You can overwhelm FLIR if you just start setting fire to everything in sight.

Another flare gun enjoyer, I see.

 

[Rent Tin]

Camo is great for LOS detection from the naked eye, however taking into consideration that even a basic retard can afford and pilot a drone with a 1080p camera and thermal/nightvision systems are becoming more mainstream and affordable...

Based S2 Underground enjoyer. His videos on drones were eye-opening.

Personally I think average Joe clothes in coyote, od, etc. are a better choice than specialized camo in that you're more likely to be wearing them if something happens outside the home.

Have the specialized clothing at home of course, so you can change if/when you make it back.

Unless you work from home, your average day is going to have most hours spent outside of the house, you should prepare accordingly.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Personally I think average Joe clothes in coyote, od, etc. are a better choice than specialized camo in that you're more likely to be wearing them if something happens outside the home.

That kind of goes into the hoboflage concept I mentioned earlier. Hiding in an urban setting has an entirely different set of requirements, you need to blend in with the crowd, and look skeevy enough that most people wouldn't bother you. Even coyote and OD would stand out in the city. Look at how the lower class locals dress. Sweat pants are a good start usually.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Camo isn't as important as how you place yourself and how you move in the field.

This is about how to be more visible as a biker to not get run-over by a truck, but it's interesting because it shows on video how your eyes and brain can delete someone who is basically right in front of you, do the tips in reverse to become less visible, specially in a urban area.

 

[Null]

If I buy gear and want it in a specific camo not offered (i.e. it only comes in the US standard or black) what do you do? Just spraypaint it?

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

Or consider a ghillie blanket/hat/overcoat.

 

[AN/ALR56]

If I buy gear and want it in a specific camo not offered (i.e. it only comes in the US standard or black) what do you do? Just spraypaint it?

You can use a dye to change their color, but thats it.

 

[Doctor Love]

Urban Ghillie - bin bag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZaGQztS6yg

Also, you can strap a door to your back. If you need cover, just run and spread flat against a wall. It will disguise you as a door, and provide some protection.

 

[Meat Target]

Any field test reports on the HEADPAT pattern?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

If I buy gear and want it in a specific camo not offered (i.e. it only comes in the US standard or black) what do you do? Just spraypaint it?

Not much other than the Rit Dye method suggested above. Can probably order custom from a small shop, but it will take a while and will cost some. I got a few pouches from this place, they got a lot of camo variants including Kryptek and Pencott. They're Hong Kong-based but decent quality and they use genuine materials.

EOD Fish did a review of one of their chest rigs.

 

[Stackbodiesbro]

I hate to be that asshole but someone has to say it. If you live in North America just get multicam.

If I buy gear and want it in a specific camo not offered (i.e. it only comes in the US standard or black) what do you do? Just spraypaint it?

Go for a Tan or Coyote brown. It's the most versatile color to go with different camo/environments without being a camo itself.

 

[indomitable snowman]

UCP obviously, your grandma won't even see me going for the cookie jar.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I'm a big fan of Multi-Clam, bros.

https://www.tacticaldistributors.com/products/td-aloha-button-up-1?variant=40491825004628

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

Don't forget that there's also the Gray Man option if you're stuck in the city or the 'burbs; that is, dress like a normal person and don't draw attention to yourself.

That's my go to.

And you'll blow your cover if your idea of "Gray Man" includes a GruntStyle/NineLine t-shirt and paracord bracelet.

So to be clear, Khakis and Underarmor shirts with dark shades = feds?

 

[Samhain]

If I buy gear and want it in a specific camo not offered (i.e. it only comes in the US standard or black) what do you do? Just spraypaint it?

Spray painting works pretty well as long as you have a decently light color of gear to start with. Black will soak up quite a lot of paint before the color starts changing, so I wouldn't recommend it, but it can be done.

 

[Shidoen]

It is the cultural garb of my people

 

[Harvey Danger]

• Point on NVS/Thermals

The consideration of NVS/thermals is very important. Nightvision is accessible to civilians, and thermals are getting there fast. Garand Thumb covered this as part of their mountain recon series;

It covers movement more than homestead defense, but there's some very educational NV/thermal shots that should be watched to understand the nature of the threat. I can't find the other similar video, which shows how effective thermal cloaks are.