Canada is a failed state

[Ser Prize]

i read this thread once in a while and being in the US i have to ask: is the real estate and housing problem (and prices) as bad as they are mentioned to be? is it exaggerated?

Not just real estate. Rent is also fucked. You're paying at least a thou for anything.

 

[y a t s]

Given how awesome Canada's doing... has anybody else considered leaving? Nothing here is going to change, so I've been looking around for information or peoples thoughts. I'd love to just up and move to the US tomorrow (not feasible I know), but hell if I know a pleasant state or city to even live in.

I'm currently saving for a remote cabin and a one-way ticket to Eastern Europe. After that, I'm done participating in larger society. Everyone is completely fucked no matter where they go, so it's about finding the last places to fall. Plus, it helps that I have a thing for Slavic women.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Nothing like paying 500k for a house that needs 80k of work on it in a town of 30 thousand 3 hours away from any city. Why anyone believes this is sustainable at all is beyond me. But if you oppose anything the Liberals do you're dividing the country.

I known of a family who moved to Mexico because Canada was getting so expensive. Living alone middle class is a death sentence for most Canadians.

 

[Local Fed]

Not just real estate. Rent is also fucked. You're paying at least a thou for anything.

In a lot of areas that thousand dollar a month rent isn't even going to be for your own apartment, it'll get you a room in a house that you'll share with other people.

 

[OtherLastTrainHome]

another question: how serious is the following?

this was mentioned a few days ago and now there seems to be a slow pick-up on the information. apparently Justin Trudeau wants to "regulate" podcasts and the internet in general by going after streamers and such. i then stumbled on a thread from Ezra Levant (don't know him) and it talks about the CRTC. i also read the usual grouse that this is the real news going on in Canada right now and the standing ovation they gave the Nazi guy was pure distraction.

 

[OutInTheRain]

i also read the usual grouse that this is the real news going on in Canada right now and the standing ovation they gave the Nazi guy was pure distraction.

This is them taking advantage of it. The Liberals want to put their thumb on the scales of everything in Canada with the promise of federal money. Their strings are always the usual DIE stuff, which is always oddly american-centric. It's why you have folk festivals with female rappers from Detroit going on about George Floyd to a very confused audience. They Liberals also know that there is a hunger for Canadian content, just not approved by the establishment Canadian content. So people are going to podcasts and Youtube, rather than the CBC, the home of the Canadian trustfund alcoholic. The Liberals blame dissident content either from within the country, or even Americans dunking on Trudeau for their failing fortunes, and not their own intentionally divisive and piss poor performance.

 

[y a t s]

i also read the usual grouse that this is the real news going on in Canada right now and the standing ovation they gave the Nazi guy was pure distraction.

I think this is giving the government too much credit. Aunt Trudy's first response to hearing the guy was a nazi was to blame "Russian disinformation", which is his go-to response to any backlash the feds receive. He's really not much of a strategist, and he doesn't need to be. He noticeably destroyed the country every term, yet has still been elected every time.

Pretty much all levels of our government know they can act with absolute impunity, and they don't bother hiding it. The Waterloo region is planning to curb islamophobia (attached for posterity) using a broad amendment "to specifically prohibit harassment based on race, religion, gender identity or sexual orientation and other protected grounds under the Ontario Human Rights Code."

They don't just actively fuck us; they do it out in the open and broadcast it publicly.

 

[Moosebonker]

This was originally a painting done to highlight the problems with residential school.
Someone updated it to represent what is happening in all Canadian schools.

 

[OutInTheRain]

This was originally a painting done to highlight the problems with residential school.
Someone updated it to represent what is happening in all Canadian schools.

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Ahh yes, the schools, the schools that had the waiting lists. The schools where less than 30% of the native community at the time had attended because there were waiting lists. The schools where the children were ripped away from their families and died on mass but it was decades after the fact before anyone said anything....those schools. The schools where when the children arrived they were dirty and disheveled and clothes had to be peeled off of them and most were malnourished and sick when they arrived, those schools. The schools where the government spent decades trying to close them down but the bands had a shitfit over it and so control was transferred to them...those schools.

But the updated painting is pretty good, but the priests should be replaced with drag queens for the full affect.

 

[wry wrangler]

The notion of 'cultural genocide' against the natives is the greatest fake news story in Canadian history.

 

[Moosebonker]

Ahh yes, the schools, the schools that had the waiting lists. The schools where less than 30% of the native community at the time had attended because there were waiting lists. The schools where the children were ripped away from their families and died on mass but it was decades after the fact before anyone said anything....those schools. The schools where when the children arrived they were dirty and disheveled and clothes had to be peeled off of them and most were malnourished and sick when they arrived, those schools. The schools where the government spent decades trying to close them down but the bands had a shitfit over it and so control was transferred to them...those schools.

But the updated painting is pretty good, but the priests should be replaced with drag queens for the full affect.

I'm persona non grata around here for simply asking where the graveyard is for the people who were not genocided.

Out at the farmers market on the weekend, all the virtue-signallers had their orange t-shirts on, which has about the same effect as leaving a like on a sm post. I did run into a pooner sporting a neckbeard there, with what appeared to be her mother. Wish I had snapped a pic.

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

I'm persona non grata around here for simply asking where the graveyard is for the people who were not genocided.

Out at the farmers market on the weekend, all the virtue-signallers had their orange t-shirts on, which has about the same effect as leaving a like on a sm post. I did run into a pooner sporting a neckbeard there, with what appeared to be her mother. Wish I had snapped a pic.

Don’t forget the totally beneficial to indigenous people FEDERAL HOLIDAY where all the Indians who work for the federal government can enjoy a paid day off to reflect.

 

[Ser Prize]

Ahh yes, the schools, the schools that had the waiting lists. The schools where less than 30% of the native community at the time had attended because there were waiting lists. The schools where the children were ripped away from their families and died on mass but it was decades after the fact before anyone said anything....those schools. The schools where when the children arrived they were dirty and disheveled and clothes had to be peeled off of them and most were malnourished and sick when they arrived, those schools. The schools where the government spent decades trying to close them down but the bands had a shitfit over it and so control was transferred to them...those schools.

But the updated painting is pretty good, but the priests should be replaced with drag queens for the full affect.

Redpill me further on the Residential Schools. People always talk about them like they were concentration camps.

 

[OutInTheRain]

Redpill me further on the Residential Schools. People always talk about them like they were concentration camps.

Read the Truth and Reconciliation report. It's all in there. Also the "mandatory" phase was from 1921 - 1941ish as a broader group of truancy laws so the RCMP had the powers to go after the tard children who were not entirely unjustly feeling homesick and wanted to go home.

The residential schools were a stupid idea, but so were the students. As well, no Canadian ever voted for the Residential School system. But like all the bullshit we deal with the government did it anyway. However Canadians are blamed for it, when it is wholly the Government's fault.

 

[SilentDuck]

The notion of 'cultural genocide' against the natives is the greatest fake news story in Canadian history.

Every Canadian seems very tolerant of the idea of native behavior until they've seen it first hand. Once it gets mixed with a few pints, half a mickey, or many huffs on that shopping bag full of blood from those steel beasts even the worst libfags will attain enlightenment.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

The notion of 'cultural genocide' against the natives is the greatest fake news story in Canadian history.

I hate the term "genocide" to describe this, as the motivation is actually the exact opposite.

The natives culture was eradicated, make no mistake.

You could argue that you tossed the bathwater out with the bath (good with the bad), and thats maybe sad,

But residential schools were designed to make it so that natives had a chance to survive in the modern world. You can't fur trap anymore, the buffalo are gone, and you can't live off the land anymore (and when you do, youre living a very, very poor life).

Its not cultural genocide insofar as its forced modernization.

Where the natives are now is a separate problem, but people want to pretend like there was another choice, when really there wasnt. You can complain about the way the schools were run (and youd be wrong to for most, imo), but they were there for legit reasons.

It's about 50/50 but even with a locked in mortgage rate after 5 years you have to re-sign at a different rate. So it's only a matter of time until you get fucked. Of course most of them will still vote Liberal because they think it makes Trump mad, so a lot of them deserve it.

This to be honest

You also have to add that people are generally hysterical, but we at least used to have rights and freedoms that would protect individuals from that/the mob, but we really don't anymore, so theres not really anything holding the individual to Canadian society anymore.
Even past that, if 90% of people vote to shut down the economy and then "whoopsie, looks like we were a bit hysterical" that fucks you in the end regardless, right? It just shows that you really can't afford to live near morons if they have control over things that will directly fuck you over.

If its a slow decline, you can tolerate that, but it seems like for one reason or another most midwit people seem intent to go on the Fasttrack to societal collapse and will only partially acknowledge fault afterwards, the same way Trudeau recently apologized on behalf of everyone (not himself) for the nazi debacle.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I hate the term "genocide" to describe this, as the motivation is actually the exact opposite.

The natives culture was eradicated, make no mistake.

You could argue that you tossed the bathwater out with the bath (good with the bad), and thats maybe sad,

But residential schools were designed to make it so that natives had a chance to survive in the modern world. You can't fur trap anymore, the buffalo are gone, and you can't live off the land anymore (and when you do, youre living a very, very poor life).

Its not cultural genocide insofar as its forced modernization.

Where the natives are now is a separate problem, but people want to pretend like there was another choice, when really there wasnt. You can complain about the way the schools were run (and youd be wrong to for most, imo), but they were there for legit reasons.

That reminds me of a video I saw on X yesterday. It was of these two FN elders chewing out a CBC reporter at a press conference circa 2017 and was glorious to behold. They screamed out every woke buzzword and invoked the United Nations as if the organization had a standing army to liberate them from the white colonialists. Never mind the fact that the UN does not have a sterling record when it comes to stopping genocides as they stood silently during the Rwanda and Darfur genocides.

Frankly, it mystifies me to see how ignorant and hypocritical these activists are. One claimed that we settlers would be homeless if there were no natives around. No, Europeans would've likely settled the Americas regardless of whether there was an indigenous population or not. The Crown could have seized the land by force, but chose the less violent option. Given how other groups outnumber the FNs by around 20:1, they are not in a tenable situation. The only reason why Canadians tolerate the rhetoric and the blockades is because of the "collective guilt" over the "original sin" of colonialism. Indeed, that is why there was widespread hysteria over mass graves that did not exist. Imagine what would happen if and when the settler population decides that they are over feeling guilty over the crimes of the ancestors.

"Genocide" is a term that is thrown around by a group a loud-mouthed activists that want to set the clock back to pre-colonial times, ignoring the fact that modernity was going to arrive one way or the other.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

it mystifies me to see how ignorant and hypocritical these activists are.

This part doesnt shock me because they are genuinely stupid and historically illiterate, but what did shock me was seeing the government, universities, and other institutions of power going along with it that literally know better.

Shouldnt be shocking, they have no integrity and simply govern by popularity poll regardless of the truth (horrid governance), but still. Thats the shocking part to me, if there was one.

 

[Butterschmalz]

First black Canadian Speaker of the House:

About time we already had our first black prime minister....

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Shouldnt be shocking, they have no integrity and simply govern by popularity poll regardless of the truth (horrid governance), but still. Thats the shocking part to me, if there was one.

"Govern by popularity poll" is the perfect encapsulation of Canadian politics, especially on the the left, as the Liberal Party of Canada is laser-focused on domestic politics and short-term gains in the weekly polls. We are watching it now with our spat with India. The LPC and all major parties turned a blind eye to Khalistani extremism because large-scale immigration made the Sikh community disproportionately influential in the vote-rich GTA and Lower Mainland. As such, I believe that Trudeau made accusation against India to shore up his support since his popularity has been sagging since may. (SPOILER: It didn't work.)

Then we have the Hunka affair where former Speaker of the House, Anthony Rota fell on his sword like so many others before him to protect the dear leader. Support for Ukraine is still high and Zelenskyy's visit to the House of Commons was extremely high profile. Am I to believe that the PMO simply made an oversight about Honka's service in the Waffen-SS when Rota invited him to sit in the gallery and be honored? Fuck, I remember when Rota paused during his introduction. Do the offices of the Prime Minister and the Speaker not talk to each other in advance of such an important visit? Did no one in there realize that the Soviet Union was our ally in World War II? (Rhetorical question.)

Nope. The LPC needed an old Ukrainian veteran to parade before the world for five seconds of adulation before someone with two neurons and a synapse realized what they did. Now they came Putin a propaganda victory and I wouldn't be surprised if Zelensky refuses to take Trudeau's calls after that humiliation. Of course, the TruAnons are either proliferating conspiracy theories claiming the Conservatives put Rota up to this or pleading with us to forgive and forget after Trudeau hid for five days before offering a half-hearted non-apology to the house. Mind you, these assholes would never accept an apology if it happened under Harper's watch and the legacy media would go on an unrelenting offensive against the CPC. No, there is no absolution for this and no amount of deflection to a lunch date with Christine Anderson will remove this stain. It is the LPC's and the LPC's alone.

Hell, the Liberals didn't even start moving on the housing crisis until Poilievre started making noise about that. Even then they are unwilling to take decisive action like throttle immigration until we have more houses built because the Ponzi scheme must go on. Fuck. I hate my fellow Canadians at times.