CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz

The latest revision has survived the deletion process and continues to fluff up this dumb shit as something legit:


Check the "Internal Governance" and "Commerce" sections for some especially inane bullshit.


The talk page continues to try making this sound totally serious and not an exercise in squatting by spoiled commies:

 
Is it just me or these people just have never paid attention to events like WACCO before. I mean, this is epic because literally the government has to do nothing but barricade them off from the rest of the city, and essentially let them just starve to death. This will literally be the perfect case study for all of these commie larpers to learn the true issues with their ideology. I wrote a list of flaws that I've found in their model:

1 ) They're commies
2 ) The "field nurses" are very incompetent half baked drop outs.
3 ) They're supplies are reliant on the already existing urban supply chain.
4 ) Likely they are surrounded by the national guard, the feds, and the SWAT.
5 ) They have not mastered the ancient practice of agriculture.
6 ) Their leader has amounted nothing to be a third rate sound cloud rapper.
7 ) They trade shit tickets and cigarettes/prison currency.
8 ) Certain members have been already getting rounded up and brought to the black sites/FEMA camps.
9 ) How are they going to power anything without access to fuel, let alone the resources/machinery/refineries necessary to get said fuel.
10 ) Their crop yields are too low to sustain more than a few people.
11 ) They barely have any weapons, how come CHEZ the Chad was able to take over so easily.
12 ) The homeless raided them already once.
13 ) 1 hellfire missile would ping off that entire "occupied zone."
14 ) They are relying on the internet/ cellular service, once there are jammers they will no longer have access to the outside world.
15 ) Their ranks consist of soyboys, karens, neckbeards, joggers, teen girls, all equally cringe, and incompetent.
16 ) They are so disorganized that one moment of inconvenience turns into absolute and utter self annihilation because of lack of self control, hence inner group fighting. This was already demonstrated in their general tactics in their social media, as well what we've observed during the protests.
17 ) If any decide to leave the commune point 8 will be repeated.
18 ) Unless they are trading in crypto all of their money is traceable and whatever accounts they are keeping likely are already being monitored and will be seized by the Federal government in the matter of days.
19 ) How in the fuck are they going to have access to any type of water to stay hydrated, especially since the summer months. Polluted Seattle rain water probably isn't the best to drink, and seeing they're understanding of architecture. I highly doubt their understanding of reverse osmosis and distillation is any better beyond an elementary level.
20 ) Aren't we still in the middle of a Pandemic?
21 ) Neighboring gangs could easily swoop in and challenge their control of said territory.
22 ) What happens when they run out of their narcotics, because most of these people obviously are fans of said substances.
23 ) Medical supplies where already difficult to acquire in normal circumstances, along with I am not aware of any clinics or hospitals being in their general vicinity. A couple of COVID patients is all that would be needed to fuck everything up, hence I re-frame to 20.
24 ) Just like in OCCUPY, all the police have to really do is give them the illusion of control over the situation. They'll let em be isolated in their one little part of the city, but once the bulldozers start coming in there really isn't much they can do but hope they don't get their tents crushed.
25 ) Even if they last until the winter, let alone last until the first day of summer how will they acquire the lumber necessary or materials necessary to stay warm.
26) What happens if there is an infestation of ticks, maggots, or any other type of insect that can contaminate their food supplies, let alone any of their clothing.
27) How can they bathe with out sanitary products?

These are all of the flaws that I just could think of with this whole scenario and there are probably way more variables I haven't even considered. Essentially, these people are sitting ducks, they are not going to be able to escape. It's either they run out of food, water, or else they get over run by various other opposing forces. Likely their access to communication will get shut off, they'll start getting paranoid. Realize their food is too low, and they start freaking out. Then that is when the SS starts marching in, and then they are completely fucked. This is how come a commune is never established in an already pre-existing urban zone, it is just too fucking easy to cut that zone off from the rest of the world. Along with too many opposing forces exist,

I mean hell the locals probably just about had it with these faggots, and might as well just start getting some revenge for all of the devastation they've caused over the last couple of weeks. They really think people are that afraid of them and wouldn't openly challenge their bullshit. They are really this arrogant, that they'll just parade themselves right in front of the firing squad, because they are just that entitled to live for FREE. Also unlike their buggalo counterparts, I doubt that outside of a small section of them actually have any type of survivalist type of expertise. Hence why they situated themselves in the city and not in some isolated area by the shoreline. Even if so, all it would take is one of those Naval carriers to go full Somalia pirate purge, and wipe their whole insurgency in the matter of a minute and a half. I give it probably 2 weeks from today that we will see a bunch of dead ANTIFA people. These are no longer protests, therefore now Trump has full 100% clearance to start using the might of the military.
 
Rent control is about half of what lead to the Bronx's death by a thousand arsons in the 70s. Rent control was passed during WW2 and stayed on the books through the 80s. Landlords lost any incentive to maintain their properties and in some cases they went to the mob to torch their buildings so they could collect insurance.

The other half was renters torching their units so they could jump up the waiting list for public housing.
The entirety of Seattle's governance is economically illiterate. They also passed the $15 minimum wage law (which every economist, even ones of the left, acknowledge is financially ruinous in the long run). Both mayoral candidates claimed that the reason there were so many homeless people is because there "isn't enough housing" (despite luxury apartments in Capitol Hill sitting empty for years) leading them to pass a huge multi-million dollar tax on Amazon, the city's main moneymaker, for "homelessness programs". Knowing many low level Amazon jobs would be cut from that, regular Seattleites had some sense and actually protested that decision and made them overturn it. They have some of the biggest companies in America within their borders yet there is trash on the street and homeless people everywhere. They're just awful.
 
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CHAZ should have been positioned near a coastline. If the leaders thought of getting boats and fishing nets, they could obtain quite a bit of seafood. Their garden is pathetic and won’t even feed more than 10 people at the most. If they learned the planting season, potatoes would be much better in terms of calories than tomatoes. Additionally, building fire pits would also be essential. It’s a good thing they’re only LARPing because they would all die of starvation if they couldn’t leave and were given no outside help.
You see, if these people actually paid attention to history and, heaven forbid, colonialism they would know that the most successful civilizations always spring up around a wealth of natural resources. Natural harbors, fertile land, rivers etc. Not in the middle of a city surrounded by potentially hostile forces. But I’m sure that women’s studies degree will help out tons in building your communist utopia.
 
Anyone surprised by this, BTW, should check out these posters I had to pass by daily when I lived there. Note that these are pre-2016 election day and this is in supposedly one of the highest rent areas of the city.
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What pisses me off more than the hipster idiots who made the CHAZ are the scumbags who are enabling it. Not just the mayor, police chief, and the governor, but the regular people of Seattle who think this is somehow going to make Seattle a better place.

Something has to give. Something has to make this shit crash and burn.
 
Frankly, someone should introduce them to Lysenko's teachings and tell them it is suppressed knowledge, made unavailable by capitalists and reactionaries to keep a tight lid on food production and thus control over the masses. By making Lysenkoism appear like some revolutionary alternative method of growing crops, we could get Seattle's own fun-sized version of "The Great Leap Forwards" Famines.
The American Left is already well on it's way to having a politically-based backward unworkable farming method. The organic and sustainable farming nonsense. They managed to shove that shit into universities too. It's a disgrace.
it's funny, assuming you have a piece of land available, it has never been easier to learn farming.
Due to illiteracy, for the past 10k years you had to learn it from your parents, everything went through words, nothing was written down.
Not only is all agricultural knowledge now written down, it's been perfected throughout the last 200 years and readily available on the same device that brings them Twitter.
It's so easy to learn about agriculture and keeping your population fed, yet they can't even be bothered to do that.
Anyone who thought this was going to be more than a 2 week farce is stupid imo, there's a reason why succesful rebellions and revolutions tend to start in rural areas and the countryside.
Any group that finds reading Wikipedia too much work is never going to start a succesful revolution or overthrow any country, let alone the US of A
The idea that they were going to grow anything on a glacial moraine from the last ice age is laughable. It's all rocks and sand and clay. They would have to spend decades working the land to have even mediocre soil. Somebody else around here mentioned that the community gardens in the area use raised beds with trucked in topsoil. The ground is that shitty. Not worth the effort. Never was.

No amount of reading or passed down knowledge is going to fix it either. If you want to do some communal farming thing put it in a place with arable land. Not some ancient pile of rocks in the middle of an urban center.
 
Anyone surprised by this, BTW, should check out these posters I had to pass by daily when I lived there. Note that these are pre-2016 election day and this is in supposedly one of the highest rent areas of the city.
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I lived in the city both before and after the 2016 election. What's funny is in the actual black and brown parts of town, you very rarely see political propaganda. Other than political campaign signs on people's lawns and store windows, I remember one poster for a "Fight for 15" march, and that was it.
 
I haven't finished leafing through the thread yet, but I hope at some point someone pointed out that the first thing that these people did when they started the CHAZ was erect a barricade and build a wall. I really hope that irony didn't go unappreciated.

Even better, first thing they did was build a wall and filter who was allowed in
 
I lived in the city both before and after the 2016 election. What's funny is in the actual black and brown parts of town, you very rarely see political propaganda. Other than political campaign signs on people's lawns and store windows, I remember one poster for a "Fight for 15" march, and that was it.
Exactly. The Ethiopian neighborhood east of SU and the International District, which are way poorer, were much more enjoyable to be in a lot of the time. Not only was the food phenomenal and cheap, but you were actually dealing with people living the American dream. Cap Hill morons wouldn't know what struggle actually looks like if it slapped them in the face.
 
Exactly. The Ethiopian neighborhood east of SU and the International District, which are way poorer, were much more enjoyable to be in a lot of the time. Not only was the food phenomenal and cheap, but you were actually dealing with people living the American dream. Cap Hill morons wouldn't know what struggle actually looks like if it slapped them in the face.
The only thing residents of a gayborhood struggle with is shoving inreasingly bigger things up their asses
 
President Obama drone striked an American citizen, and directed his federal agents to force out and kill Americans who had taken over Federal Property.

I don't support Obama idealogically, but I can recognize that he did have the guts to make the hard choice that less powerful citizens chose to rest in his hands - Choosing to defend them by demonstrating the state will stand up to any challenge to its authority... even when the practical realization of that danger seemed far off and distant.

This faggot pussy President is too much of a coward to lift a finger when a major city begins to be taken over! He should be ashamed, for being a coward. Mad or not, this is how I feel. Like President Trump abandoned the country. I guess he was a Gorbachev all along.
 
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