Chris court appearance

[Mason Verger]

I wouldn't be too swift to judge his competence based on the fact that he's nearly going to be required to make lots of arguments that are going to sound far-fetched if not outright ridiculous, because he has very little to work with.

And if we’re being honest, true christorians will know he has a real point. Chris is a old internet circus chimp. Is was only a matter of time before he ate somebodies face.

 

[BiggerChungus]

How much you wanna bet Chris already all but confessed? He's really not that smart and the cops are pros. Hell, all they'll have to do as ask "so you raped your mom huh?" and he'll probably say it was consensual, in effect admitting to it. Chris is not smart enough to keep his mouth shut. Poor lawyer has his work cut out for him, indeed.

There's no way Chris comes out of it not guilty, but I think his defense will probably push for a mental facility instead of prison. Chris couldn't survive.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

He was probably a bit evasive at the start, Chris has been shown to be able to keep a secret for a little bit like when he bragged about getting China when he had hired a prostitute online. That came out cause he told a troll pretending to be a galpal.

Given the right incentives though, in this case probably toys and freedom, Chris will give up any information that someone wants if he thinks it will get him something. Only reason he didn't brag more about banging his mom was that he knew it was wrong so only wanted to divulge that information to enablers, but still had to brag to Null that he was getting China with a "girlfriend".

Like when the CWCipedia first started and Chris' strategy was to divulge a shitload of personal information to cause "information overload" or something. I think he misunderstood the strategy of putting out a bunch of fake information to cover up a real thing and just put out real details.

So it's either female investigator or "you know, Christine, I too wasn't able to find true love in Virginia"?

 

[Henry Wyatt]

Anyone here ever rode out a prison sentence? I'm objectively curious about whether a nasty chud of a person like Chris would actually be targeted by prison rapists. I imagine that if they have any standards at all, they're gonna be low, but I also expect that Chris would fall well below their range of "acceptable hygiene". Imagine peeling Chris' MLP special edition panties down his shit-caked square ass and seeing the fudge stripes peel downward like some abominable adhesive from hell. I can't imagine anyone maintaining an erection.

tl;dr- is it even possible to prison-rape Chris due to his inordinately low standard of hygiene?

• Limit discussion of body parts and functions. Chris is gross. Discussing his incontinence in detail is unnecessary and disturbing.

 

[1guy1drill]

• Limit discussion of body parts and functions. Chris is gross. Discussing his incontinence in detail is unnecessary and disturbing.

Damn, sorry.

 

[Cuntster]

Autism is a neurological issue which psychologists/psychiatrists admit is incurable.

The only usefulness they have with respect to autism is providing documentation of disability so that the autist can receive NEETbux.

Besides that, the autist is sure to experience a complete mismatch between himself and society, and this will naturally produce maladapative behaviors. Some autists will dress like girls and play with toys, while others will cut themselves and shoot up the school (as mediated by testosterone levels, probably).

So you are overstating the extent to which the parents are at fault for how Chris turned out. Insofar as they are at fault, it is due to their genetics, not their rearing.

That is absolute bullshit. People with autism initially loathe boundaries and restriction, but after an adjustment period they can come to depend on them and even crave them. They can learn their triggers and learn their limits the same way someone with an anxiety disorder or depression can. True their brain is still hardwired a certain way but their mind can learn how to circumvent and avoid patterns detrimental to their personal growth.

Chris was never given any kind of meaningful restriction or consequences by Barb and Bob. At the first sign of him throwing an autistic fit they just gave in to whatever ridiculous demand he had because it was easier and required less energy than challenging him.

 

[Alexander Hamilton]

Everyone deserves a defense, even mother fuckers.

I'm guessing the lawyer knows the book is gonna be thrown at Chris and will focus more on minimizing the sentence he receives, using Chris' mental problems as mitigating circumstances, rather than a full on insanity plea.

And the better a defense they get, the happier I am.

One of the reasons indigent defense is a public service is because by testing the strength of the State's case, and making sure even the worst offenders get every last scrap of procedural due process to which they're entitled, they make sure those found guilty really are guilty.

This gives society confidence in the verdict - and also helps appeal proof it.

There's nothing worse than sending someone who is a real threat to society down for a good long stretch after a two week long trial only to see them get another go because their lawyer couldn't keep their shit together.

Although it may sound paradoxical if someone has done something really bad, and you really want to see punishment stick, you want them to have the best lawyer possible.

If I were prosecuting Chris, I'd be very happy with the appointed counsel from what I've been able to learn about him.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

Autism is a neurological issue which psychologists/psychiatrists admit is incurable.

The only usefulness they have with respect to autism is providing documentation of disability so that the autist can receive NEETbux.

Besides that, the autist is sure to experience a complete mismatch between himself and society, and this will naturally produce maladapative behaviors. Some autists will dress like girls and play with toys, while others will cut themselves and shoot up the school (as mediated by testosterone levels, probably).

So you are overstating the extent to which the parents are at fault for how Chris turned out. Insofar as they are at fault, it is due to their genetics, not their rearing.

I realize Autism is a neurological condition that is not curable. I work with children with Autism (powerlevel, I know, but I'm not talking out of my ass). However, it is possible to learn adaptive behaviors, teach a person what is socially acceptable and, for lack of a better term, train them. The earlier those interventions are started, the more successful the child will be. And I think that's what his first elementary school was trying to do by recommending he go to the school in Winchester. His parents absolutely made the wrong choice in raising him the way they did. They refused services and didn't do anything when their son was clearly going down a path that was not acceptable. The signs were there when he was young and even moreso as he grew older. They never did anything. Bob should have cut down the internet, he should have had consistent consequences for his actions, like any child, but it's even more important for a child on the spectrum. His parents had no idea what to do with him so they let him do whatever he wanted. It was probably easier than dealing with his tantrums, which is sadly the case for a lot of parents of children with Autism.

Chris is the exception, rather than the rule, when it comes to people with Autism. And to classify them all as transgender or man-children or school shooters isn't fair. The majority of Autistic people (on all areas of the spectrum) grow up to be fine, decent people who contribute to society or, at the very least, don't cause trouble. But how they are raised absolutely plays a role in how they turn out. So yes, I will lay some of the blame at his parents' feet. Just because you're born with a condition doesn't mean you're doomed to become something, with proper treatment, it's possible to not be an incestuous rapist so wrapped up in his own fantasy world he's largely lost touch with reality, who is so ruled by his own selfish sexual desire (because no one taught him that women don't own you affection or sex, that no one is just 'given' a girlfriend and that his LoveQuest was impractical from the moment he conceived it) that he fucks his own mother.

 

[Coldgrip]

It was really a ticking time bomb that couldn't have been prevented.

If Chris had gotten proper parenting and proper schooling I think this could of been prevented.

Unless he's just hardwired to be this way.

 

[1guy1drill]

That is absolute bullshit. People with autism initially loathe boundaries and restriction, but after an adjustment period they can come to depend on them and even crave them.

Chris was never given any kind of meaningful restriction or consequences by Barb and Bob. At the first sign of him throwing an autistic fit they just gave in to whatever ridiculous demand he had because it was easier and required less energy than challenging him.

This is true, a wide range of both mental illnesses and cognitive disabilities benefit immensely from healthy boundary setting and routine. They typically do quite a bit better when those conditions are met, but everything can be thrown into disarray quickly with a minor schedule upset.

 

[pphead]

I liked the point brought up on Carlson about trannys assaulting women in female jail. It’s a good point. I tried googling to see if FTM get sent to man jail and there’s 0 results. Just sex weirdos wanting in girl jail.

 

[Killowaaa]

Tucker: "Tonight we will be talking about a court case happening in Virginia, involving famed transgender activist Christine Westin Chandler, better known by the online moniker of "Chris-Chan..."

Fuck why can I picture it so clearly?

Well it happened chris was in fact on Tucker, had to say I called this.
Tucker talks about chris

 

[jenstark101]

I realize Autism is a neurological condition that is not curable. I work with children with Autism (powerlevel, I know, but I'm not talking out of my ass). However, it is possible to learn adaptive behaviors, teach a person what is socially acceptable and, for lack of a better term, train them. The earlier those interventions are started, the more successful the child will be. And I think that's what his first elementary school was trying to do by recommending he go to the school in Winchester. His parents absolutely made the wrong choice in raising him the way they did. They refused services and didn't do anything when their son was clearly going down a path that was not acceptable. The signs were there when he was young and even moreso as he grew older. They never did anything. Bob should have cut down the internet, he should have had consistent consequences for his actions, like any child, but it's even more important for a child on the spectrum. His parents had no idea what to do with him so they let him do whatever he wanted. It was probably easier than dealing with his tantrums, which is sadly the case for a lot of parents of children with Autism.

Chris is the exception, rather than the rule, when it comes to people with Autism. And to classify them all as transgender or man-children or school shooters isn't fair. The majority of Autistic people (on all areas of the spectrum) grow up to be fine, decent people who contribute to society or, at the very least, don't cause trouble. But how they are raised absolutely plays a role in how they turn out. So yes, I will lay some of the blame at his parents' feet. Just because you're born with a condition doesn't mean you're doomed to become something, with proper treatment, it's possible to not be an incestuous rapist so wrapped up in his own fantasy world he's largely lost touch with reality, who is so ruled by his own selfish sexual desire (because no one taught him that women don't own you affection or sex, that no one is just 'given' a girlfriend and that his LoveQuest was impractical from the moment he conceived it) that he fucks his own mother.

My aunt works with severely-severe autistics for a living. The kind that wind up as lost cases and, being filtered through various government programs. Many can't speak or are near feral. She can help them speak, (to a limited extent) but there is never a pretense that she can work feel-good miracles and turn them into someone to grow our unnecessarily bloated economy.

Best she can do is give them some semblence of normality and dignity in life.

 

[ChaoticNeutral]

Anyone here ever rode out a prison sentence? I'm objectively curious about whether a nasty chud of a person like Chris would actually be targeted by prison rapists. I imagine that if they have any standards at all, they're gonna be low, but I also expect that Chris would fall well below their range of "acceptable hygiene". Imagine peeling Chris' MLP special edition panties down his shit-caked square ass and seeing the fudge stripes peel downward like some abominable adhesive from hell. I can't imagine anyone maintaining an erection.

tl;dr- is it even possible to prison-rape Chris due to his inordinately low standard of hygiene?

1. I spent some time in a Virginia jail. Jail is for people awaiting trial, or whose sentences are measured in months. Prison is for people whose sentences are measured in years. AFAIK, jail has zero rape culture, because everyone's on good behavior riding out relatively short sentences. While less dangerous, jail culture overall is a microcosm of prison culture. Any time Chris may spend in genpop will certainly be brief before he is isolated, to protect him from the inevitable escalation in non-physical bullying, and more importantly, to eliminate disturbance in an otherwise mundane daily routine for most of the inmates. Boredom is a sedative and keeps the animals calm. Looney Troons would cause too much excitement, making it unnecessarily difficult for COs to preserve order.
2. I once encountered Chris in the DVD section of a Walmart. Before he ran away shrieking after I called him by name, I caught a whif of the thickest, most repellant odor I've ever smelled. I shit you not, his signature fragrance is Crusty Old Semen, Unwashed. This will not be tolerated in a correctional facility, whether isolated or not.
3. I'd be willing to wager Chris will not spend significant time in Jail or Prison. He will be shuffled off into the completely separate retard system, guaranteed.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

My aunt works with severe-severe autistics for a living. Many can't speak or are near feral. She can help them speak, but there is never a pretense that she can work feel-good miracles and turn them into someone to grow our unnecessarily bloated economy.

Your aunt is an awesome person for helping those people. And I'm not saying it works for everyone, for the severely disable, only so much can be done. However, Chris has always present as someone who could very well have been much better off had he gotten help when he was young. He doesn't seem like the sort that your aunt would work with. Autism is a spectrum and Chris has always claimed to be 'high functioning'.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

There's no way Chris comes out of it not guilty, but I think his defense will probably push for a mental facility instead of prison. Chris couldn't survive.

Anything that keeps Chris away from the general public and less access to the internet. Other than maybe Ethan or GiBi, I can say with certainty, no one's going to want to touch Chris with a 10 foot pole. He'll be banned even more frequently now then the years during his Love quest.

I wonder if initially Chris thought his lawyer was a troll and asked him autistic question to prove he was legit?

 

[RodgerDodger]

Mr. Heliberg is going with an interesting approach to the defense:

"Ms. Chandler's frequent and sometimes over the top presence on the internet is partly a product of mental health issues causing misguided attention seeking and often provocative engagement with others," David Heilberg said in a statement provided to Insider on Friday.

Blaming the interwebz for incest. I can't wait for this farce of a defense drop this in court.

The lawyer for Chris Chan, the creator charged with incest, says mental health issues contributed to her online fame and harassment from trolls

Chandler's attorney added that "the criminal justice system is a poor vehicle to help people with mental health issues."

www.insider.com

to be fair it also took Chris like 5 years to get that basic 2 year AS degree, and look at how he behaved all through college, same as he did through elm. , middle, and high school. he should have never been admitted to college, he was too ill to really function, and id be willing to bet, that him being so self absorbed and absorbed in toys and all, hindered his ability to learn, grow and mature, you cant blame this on the 'Tism if he even is autist, all this was a result of endless enabling and coddling, plenty of actual autistis as well as folks who have significant mental health issues can and do function, they dont stay in a 6 year old mind set or surround themselves with toys, tey often do grow up and progress if they had the support / environments that stimulated that .

Laying the groundwork that Chris deeply mentally ill, is not a bad plan. And will likely be the best option for both the Prosecutor, Defense and Judge. If such a long term remedy is available. It's certainly a better defense plan than "she was asking for it"

 

[Tiny Clanger]

I think a lot of us are under the assumption that the state has found something more substantial than Kelly Osborne’s little operation.

But they have to prove that it happened this time too, right?

This is why I'm asking for law peeps.

I don't know the intricacies but dependent on circs it's possible that anything sparked by the silly little bimbo is verboten. So if the cops only know because of that, but none of it can be referenced, then what?

If Chris confessed that would have to be watertight, and confessions are notoriously dodgy anyway. Barb may not be competent (or even remember) so, dependent on the laws pertaining to entrapment and the prejudicial nature of that, confessions and anything stemming from, it's not difficult to see a scenario where once the central pillar is toppled there's nothing left.

Colin Stagg. I just remembered. That was the big one here and once the judge threw out on the basis of entrapment there was nothing left because everything including his confession came from those interactions but once it had all been declared verboten the prosecution couldn't even refer to it and they had nothing else; the entire case was built on that foundation so it was all inadmissable. And seems the bloke didn't actually kill her either. Oops.

So yeah. It could be a real gnarly mess that the prosecution will nope out on rather than try such a tenuous case (I think it's the same in the US, they only try when confident of success.) And the prisons are already stuffed with mentals - realistically, the prosecution may well take a deal where Barb is protected and our hero retrieves what's left of his plastic shit to go live under a bridge somewhere.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

It's certainly a better defense plan than "she was asking for it"

I wouldn't put it past Chris to quote South Park and yell, "She was coming right at me". I'm just a bit upset that a mental insanity plea will absolve Chris of all wrong doing.

 

[Gorgar]

News Flash:
The leak has just been published in its entirety!