Cobra Kai

White Devil said:
I never said shit about his motivations. I was saying that the way he's acted is very unlikable. It comes across as super bratty. The character arc itself is fine and makes sense.
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I think it's because Cobra Kai has a skewed perception; that of Johnny's. What does Johnny think of his son?
 
Hawk switching sides at the miyagi do fight was lame i think it would have been better if kyler called him lip one more time that would have been a better trigger then hawk just seeing the miyagis getting beat up all season. Would have been a proper character motivation and it would show that his bullies are still not his friends and are docuhebags he needs to beat up.
 
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ElAbominacion said:
I think it's because Cobra Kai has a skewed perception; that of Johnny's. What does Johnny think of his son?
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In every other remake/sequel/reboot/etc of old 70's/80's stuff, they focus on the protagonists "passing on the torch" which is overplayed to hell and back at this point. The show works so well because Johnny is the main character. Not Daniel, not Miguel, not Sam, not Robby, but Johnny.

Everyone in the US went to high school with an asshole jock like Johnny, and everyone saw that person grow up to completely fuck up their life just like Johnny did at the start of the series. When Johnny is on a date, he says, "I partied during my 20's... all of them... and my 30's."

I never thought a show about teenagers beating the shit out of each other would be so amazing. I hope they don't fuck up season 4 since people are bitching about how the show is too white. Miguel is from Ecuador, Hawk has a Jewish-sounding name and Kyler is Korean, but, yeah, people are still bitching anyway.

I understand that the show is about karate people being badass so realism and logic are not a high priority but there is one thing that I find hard to accept:

In the first season when Kyler tries to make a move on Sam at the movie theater and she pushes him away, and then he tells the whole school that she blew him. This is a total bitch move that no girl would respect, and I don't understand how the cool girls take Kyler's word over Sam's on the matter.
 
Shroom King said:
In every other remake/sequel/reboot/etc of old 70's/80's stuff, they focus on the protagonists "passing on the torch" which is overplayed to hell and back at this point. The show works so well because Johnny is the main character. Not Daniel, not Miguel, not Sam, not Robby, but Johnny.

Everyone in the US went to high school with an asshole jock like Johnny, and everyone saw that person grow up to completely fuck up their life just like Johnny did at the start of the series. When Johnny is on a date, he says, "I partied during my 20's... all of them... and my 30's."

I never thought a show about teenagers beating the shit out of each other would be so amazing. I hope they don't fuck up season 4 since people are bitching about how the show is too white. Miguel is from Ecuador, Hawk has a Jewish-sounding name and Kyler is Korean, but, yeah, people are still bitching anyway.

I understand that the show is about karate people being badass so realism and logic are not a high priority but there is one thing that I find hard to accept:

In the first season when Kyler tries to make a move on Sam at the movie theater and she pushes him away, and then he tells the whole school that she blew him. This is a total bitch move that no girl would respect, and I don't understand how the cool girls take Kyler's word over Sam's on the matter.
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It's on Niggerflix, I am not sure it'll retain quality but I'm hoping.
 
A discussion I had with one of my friends recently:

"Dude, you really need to check out Cobra Kai."

"Well, I liked the Karate Kid OK ... But I always thought the ending was bullshit. That was an illegal kick, let's be real."

"DUDE, YOU REALLY NEED TO CHECK OUT COBRA KAI."
 
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StarkRavingMad said:
A discussion I had with one of my friends recently:

"Dude, you really need to check out Cobra Kai."

"Well, I liked the Karate Kid OK ... But I always thought the ending was bullshit. That was an illegal kick, let's be real."

"DUDE, YOU REALLY NEED TO CHECK OUT COBRA KAI."
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sound advice
 
Trailer for season 4 finally dropped:

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Cobra Kai Season 4 | Official Trailer | Netflix

Every legacy. Every rivalry. Leads to this. Cobra Kai S4 premieres globally Dec 31, only on Netflix. COBRA KAI takes place over 30 years after the events of ...
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I like the series, watched it in secret but I liked season 1 the most where this is kind of the real world but still operating on 80's movie logic. I hope they don't overplay the seriousness of the setting (what's the end goal of the characters? What's Kreese going to do if he loses, go back to the homeless shelter?) and still have someone point out the insanity of solving problems with arranged karate duels.

Now to the griefing: looking at the comments there are many that keep mentioning, "this is how you respect a series" or "everyone should take notes on how to respect a legacy". This, coupled with the soybois jizzing their pants about the Ghostbusters legacy makes my head hurt. When did a movie about a karate tournament from the 80's suddnely become a cultural icon?
 
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TopTierHealer said:
Trailer for season 4 finally dropped:

www.youtube.com

Cobra Kai Season 4 | Official Trailer | Netflix

Every legacy. Every rivalry. Leads to this. Cobra Kai S4 premieres globally Dec 31, only on Netflix. COBRA KAI takes place over 30 years after the events of ...
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

I like the series, watched it in secret but I liked season 1 the most where this is kind of the real world but still operating on 80's movie logic. I hope they don't overplay the seriousness of the setting (what's the end goal of the characters? What's Kreese going to do if he loses, go back to the homeless shelter?) and still have someone point out the insanity of solving problems with arranged karate duels.

Now to the griefing: looking at the comments there are many that keep mentioning, "this is how you respect a series" or "everyone should take notes on how to respect a legacy". This, coupled with the soybois jizzing their pants about the Ghostbusters legacy makes my head hurt. When did a movie about a karate tournament from the 80's suddnely become a cultural icon?
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It's the 80s. People love nostalgia.
 
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God of Nothing said:
It's the 80s. People love nostalgia.
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I know, I played Vice City as well. But the Nostalgia doesn't come from people that lived in the 80's it comes from people who have the idea that the 80's was the best decade in all of recorded history.

Maurice Caine said:
Asking as a person that didn't live the 80s, what's so special about it?
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AIDS. But on a serious note, nothing particularly special. Lots of unemployment in my case, I remember that and heroin abuse. That the powers that be decided that suddenly Neon an Synth is cool again is beyond me (I remember pastels but not neon)
 
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It nice to have something that you enjoyed in the past not remade or dragged through the mud because “this is A BAD THING. How dare you like this BAD THING. Be glad we are giving this BAD THING and making it the way it should have been.” You can mock the nostalgia bait, but I’ll take bait over remakes that shit all over what came before for the sake of progressiveness.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
It nice to have something that you enjoyed in the past not remade or dragged through the mud because “this is A BAD THING. How dare you like this BAD THING. Be glad we are giving this BAD THING and making it the way it should have been.” You can mock the nostalgia bait, but I’ll take bait over remakes that shit all over what came before for the sake of progressiveness.
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The reason Cobra Kai is good is because they approached the story here as "Hey, how did Johnny Lawrence turn out? What's his side of the story?" rather than "Uh, the old Karate Kid was toxic and we need to update it for the modern audience!"

And guess what? Most people love Cobra Kai. Go figure.
 
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TopTierHealer said:
When did a movie about a karate tournament from the 80's suddenly become a cultural icon?
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It was a big hit when it came out and made a big impact on pop culture. Particularly Mr. Miyagi. The second film was pretty good, if a bit silly. I don't think any of the others had any impact. I never saw the fourth one or the one Will Smith purchased for his shitty kid.

And things simply were better in the 1980s. I'm legitimately sorry if you weren't there to experience it. I do know how you feel because my parents tell me things were even better in the 1950s and 1960s, and I do believe that and envy them.
 
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Travoltron said:
It was a big hit when it came out and made a big impact on pop culture. Particularly Mr. Miyagi. The second film was pretty good, if a bit silly. I don't think any of the others had any impact. I never saw the fourth one or the one Will Smith purchased for his shitty kid.
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Let me rephrase it: it is still not Citizen Kane. When people talk about "having respect for the originals" it makes me believe that the OG movie was some sort of groundbreaking piece of art when in reality it was just a movie. Just another flick in a time when people gave a damn about craftsmanship.

Same with The Ghostbusters. It's some sort of strange phenomenon where consoooomers act reverential towards what they have been hammered are pop culture icons. But in the end it is just a movie, it's not the Dead Sea scrolls, it's not The Man of La Mancha, it's not the Ulysses. It's just a movie but this is monkey see, monnkey do: the classical nerd (back when you were bullied for it) liked the movie; nerds are smart; I want to be smart; I will worship movie.
I swear, if God doesn't exist we need to invent it. Otherwise we will start worshipping Rick and Morty.
 
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