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6. Whatever happened to Billy Tucci’s collaboration Summer 2020 with that Italian artist? I know she walked away, but was that mess ever resolved?
Maria Sanapo walked away, so they got a new artist Edu Menna. I'm not sure who he is, but it looks like he has worked on a lot of Dynamite books in the past. They also added some extra pages because the book has been so late. In the last update on December 2nd, they said they book was out to the printer.

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Adam Post is still a well liked ComicsGater derp derp derp I'll be happy to let him back on the show.
I can license my CG Title Generator to Adam Post if he's having trouble with the creativity aspect of comics making!

Who remembers that, my invention? I'm still working on it! Pirate... Wolf. UltraViking. I've got loads of future CG hit titles, the Postmeister just needs to attach some 'big' CG names, and then cha-CHING on IGG! He doesn't even need to make the comic, the little CGers will all just hand over their money to him, based purely on the smell of comic, the scent/aroma of comic coming off the IGG page. Plus he's so well-liked! And such a creative force in comics.

As for YOU on the other hand fatso, I'm afraid I can't say the same for your Incel-o-Vision show, I can't consume such fare I'm afraid, it's too unstimulating for me, even at my lowest ebb. But I must thank you for turning me onto Rick Worley's channel, he's got some great videos! The Woody Allen one in particular was mind-blowing to me. I had only a vague idea of what a creepy monster Mia Farrow was before watching that - now I have a much more vivid idea.

Why don't you efap this? It's great Christmas viewing!

In the same way that the Phoebe Cates father story from Gremlins is a great Christmas story.

(Although she goes a bit Shane Davis in the sequel)
 
Adam Post is still a well liked ComicsGater
WHY?

Actually, I think one word replies are a bannable offense, so allow me to amend that:

Dear God, FUCK WHY?

I can do what Adam Post does. Which would be pretty convenient, because I can't draw a straight line to save my life.
 
WHY?

Actually, I think one word replies are a bannable offense, so allow me to amend that:

Dear God, FUCK WHY?

I can do what Adam Post does. Which would be pretty convenient, because I can't draw a straight line to save my life.
Putting aside the fact Post is/was borderline fraudulently shovelling shitware for his own comics, the man has all the charisma and personality of a lobotomy outpatient. I know I wasn’t the only who wondered what the continental fuck he contributed on any stream he appeared on.

Presumably the bald one considers Adam Post as a ‘much loved Comicsgater’ in the same way he considers Simple Zach’s 499 as a peerless work of art.
 
Putting aside the fact Post is/was borderline fraudulently shovelling shitware for his own comics, the man has all the charisma and personality of a lobotomy outpatient. I know I wasn’t the only who wondered what the continental fuck he contributed on any stream he appeared on.

Presumably the bald one considers Adam Post as a ‘much loved Comicsgater’ in the same way he considers Simple Zach’s 499 as a peerless work of art.
Conceptually, I consider Post similar to the guy that burns a bunch of Super Nintendo ROMS to a CD-R and sells them on E-bay.

Okay... fair enough... legally there there is a distinction, assuming Post is getting permission (or buying the rights) for the reproduction. The point is that he's essentially taking something that was never intended to be marketed in that format, doing an absolute lazy shit job putting it in physical form (read this post from @Smug Freiza from last year) and collecting money off it. I won't say it's illegal, but it raised my eyebrows when I first heard about what his whole deal is.

Better question: Why would Post even be considered Comicsgate?
 
Better question: Why would Post even be considered Comicsgate?
Is he upfront about not being a creative? Can there be such a thing as strictly a "Comicsgate Publisher" or "Comicsgate Editor"? It seems like with these sorts of things there can never be any question as to what the value proposition is and where you contribute to the addition of that value lest some resentments and suspicion starts to build.
 
Is he upfront about not being a creative? Can there be such a thing as strictly a "Comicsgate Publisher" or "Comicsgate Editor"? It seems like with these sorts of things there can never be any question as to what the value proposition is and where you contribute to the addition of that value lest some resentments and suspicion starts to build.
Post gave the impression that the books he was publishing were his own creations. When he started getting shit about the margin issue for the mermaids book, he mentioned once or twice that they had been a webtoon, but never fessed up to them not being from his own brain.
 
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WHY?

Actually, I think one word replies are a bannable offense, so allow me to amend that:

Dear God, FUCK WHY?

I can do what Adam Post does. Which would be pretty convenient, because I can't draw a straight line to save my life.
Putting aside the fact Post is/was borderline fraudulently shovelling shitware for his own comics, the man has all the charisma and personality of a lobotomy outpatient. I know I wasn’t the only who wondered what the continental fuck he contributed on any stream he appeared on.

Presumably the bald one considers Adam Post as a ‘much loved Comicsgater’ in the same way he considers Simple Zach’s 499 as a peerless work of art.
One could also ask "Who?" as in "Who the fuck likes Adam Post?"

He doesn't appear to be an evil guy. He seems affable, I guess (when he's not getting snarky with his backers over the "design choice" of putting half mile borders on pages). While I'm not aware of anyone who outright hates him, I can't see how he's considered "well liked" in CG. His channel has a little over a thousand subs (most of which probably stemmed from his appearances on CAPS streams) and his videos average about 80-150 views. Seems pretty below average for someone so "well liked".

Better question: Why would Post even be considered Comicsgate?
This spring when Post was outed here at KF for not being creatively involved in the books he was pushing and that his only industry credits were editing porn comics, I wondered if he'd been paying for his spot at the table. Charlie's London superchatted her way onto the show, it doesn't seem out of the question that Post could have just eliminated the middleman and considered it a marketing expense. EVS said he liked Post's low engagement videos about CG and that somehow lead to Post getting in Frog's private DM group and becoming a fixture on the CAPS streams despite being unfunny, uninteresting, and pushing shitty books he didn't have anything to do with creating. Plenty of people are boring but friendly, but Adam Post managed to somehow turn that into a regular spot on the channel of the biggest indie comics creator in the country. Seems a little weird on its face but perfectly sensible if you assume he paid for the exposure.
 
One could also ask "Who?" as in "Who the fuck likes Adam Post?"

He doesn't appear to be an evil guy. He seems affable, I guess (when he's not getting snarky with his backers over the "design choice" of putting half mile borders on pages). While I'm not aware of anyone who outright hates him, I can't see how he's considered "well liked" in CG. His channel has a little over a thousand subs (most of which probably stemmed from his appearances on CAPS streams) and his videos average about 80-150 views. Seems pretty below average for someone so "well liked".

When Frog says Adam Post is "well liked by Comicsgate", he means "well liked by Comicsgate creators", the two terms, rather revealingly, being synonymous in his mind. From all accounts, Post is/was very good at networking among "fellow" creators. But Frog has also noted the Sisyphean ordeal that was the months of trying to sell Mermaids to his resistant audience.
 
Is he upfront about not being a creative?
Well, if you look at the cover of College of the Dead (or Mermaids), and know nothing about Adam Post (i.e. you're not a weirdo who reads this EVIL Nazi shitposting website), I think a reasonable person can be forgiven for thinking that this is a creative endeavor by Adam Post.

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Can there be such a thing as strictly a "Comicsgate Publisher" or "Comicsgate Editor"?
Sure. I believe @FROG basically wants to add those job titles to his business cards though ALLCAPS. Though it would fail the "strictly" part, since he's definitely a creator as well. He wouldn't necessarily have to be to run ALLCAPS though.

That said, I think the main thing here is FROG is looking to publish the original works of other CG creators.

Post, as far as I can tell, rides off the coattails of the "CG brand" by publishing web-comics that had and have no real connection with CG.

I'm not sure that qualifies as "owning the libs" or furthering the goals of those who agree philosophically with CG. I smells more like grifting the CG consumer base. You'd think they'd kick his ass to the curb for this.
 
Adam Post is 100% grift, 0% talent, and 1000% Frog simp so of course he's in good standing! More proof we aren't in Comicsgate anymore, Toado.
 
One could also ask "Who?" as in "Who the fuck likes Adam Post?"

He doesn't appear to be an evil guy. He seems affable, I guess (when he's not getting snarky with his backers over the "design choice" of putting half mile borders on pages). While I'm not aware of anyone who outright hates him, I can't see how he's considered "well liked" in CG. His channel has a little over a thousand subs (most of which probably stemmed from his appearances on CAPS streams) and his videos average about 80-150 views. Seems pretty below average for someone so "well liked".


This spring when Post was outed here at KF for not being creatively involved in the books he was pushing and that his only industry credits were editing porn comics, I wondered if he'd been paying for his spot at the table. Charlie's London superchatted her way onto the show, it doesn't seem out of the question that Post could have just eliminated the middleman and considered it a marketing expense. EVS said he liked Post's low engagement videos about CG and that somehow lead to Post getting in Frog's private DM group and becoming a fixture on the CAPS streams despite being unfunny, uninteresting, and pushing shitty books he didn't have anything to do with creating. Plenty of people are boring but friendly, but Adam Post managed to somehow turn that into a regular spot on the channel of the biggest indie comics creator in the country. Seems a little weird on its face but perfectly sensible if you assume he paid for the exposure.
Before Post was on Frog's channel, Adam Post was on early War Campaign streams. He'd stream from a sofa in a room that could have doubled as a brothel movie set (red velvet sofa and heavy curtains). while vehemently proclaiming about how he'd sacrificed for the industry and ComicsGate.
 
Seems a little weird on its face but perfectly sensible if you assume he paid for the exposure.
Eh, I don't think Frog is so hard up that he has to take blatant payola like that. London's unsolicited supers may have helped get Frog's attention but just flagrant backroom dealing like that would be on another level.

At any rate, Post has apparently fallen out of favor with King Frog and been banished to the CG hinterlands, so he can go back to irrelevancy now.
 
Eh, I don't think Frog is so hard up that he has to take blatant payola like that. London's unsolicited supers may have helped get Frog's attention but just flagrant backroom dealing like that would be on another level.

At any rate, Post has apparently fallen out of favor with King Frog and been banished to the CG hinterlands, so he can go back to irrelevancy now.
One doesn't necessarily need to be hard up to accept easy money. If you needed a ride a few blocks away and gave me $20 for my trouble, I'd probably accept it even if I wasn't hard up for $20 especially if it's just a short ride. The little bit of effort is no skin off my nose for an easy buck.

Post almost certainly paid far, far less for Mermaids than the $14k the book generated, so slipping the door guy a few bucks to get into the Cool Club for some advertising might be worth it. If he paid a hundred or two hundred to hang out on a stream and shill his book, Frog literally has to do nothing but drop the link and let him sit there and act like human mildew for a couple of hours. At the end of the night, Post puts his name out there and EVS pockets some money without YT taking a cut. Nobody gets hurt.

The other option is that Adam Post really did become a regular guest on a huge comics platform based solely on making some videos Ethan and 80 other people liked, despite never having worked with anyone in the industry, never creating a comic book, and having the personality of cardboard.

I'm not saying he definitely paid money to be on those streams, but that explanation requires fewer leaps than believing he got there because he was a respected comics pro with an excellent product and was engaging/witty/insightful.

Before Post was on Frog's channel, Adam Post was on early War Campaign streams. He'd stream from a sofa in a room that could have doubled as a brothel movie set (red velvet sofa and heavy curtains). while vehemently proclaiming about how he'd sacrificed for the industry and ComicsGate.
Yeah, I remember him hailing all over himself in WC streams. He has zero industry footprint and his contribution to CG is minimal at best. Nobody in comics knows or cares who Adam Post is, which is why it seems odd to me that he got on the biggest platform out there on a regular basis. EVS has hosted his share of zeros (for free) but at least somebody like Wenger was often a spectacle you could laugh at and was responsible for creating his own terrible comic. The reason I brought up the payola conspiracy theory is because that's legit the only way I could see him getting on that stream as often as he did.
 
Eh, I don't think Frog is so hard up that he has to take blatant payola like that. London's unsolicited supers may have helped get Frog's attention but just flagrant backroom dealing like that would be on another level.

The truth about how Adam Post ever got anywhere is much more stupid than something as straight forward like him bribing himself a spot. What actually happened was that a clip of Smiller and Edwin Boyette sniggering at College of the Dead failing to get more than 100 backers got back to Frog and he got so mad that he decided to promote Post non-stop purely out of spite toward Smiller. But because the book was so unappealing this took several months of shilling to get it past Lonestar, and after a point I'm pretty sure Frog forgot why he was promoting Post in the first place. Post for his part just kept showing up for streams and telling thrilling stories about yard work and how to work out a contract with a printer, as he was smart enough to not rock the boat in any way. It helped that this was immediately post-Rome and the caliber of guests available after the fallout were, well, let's just say Post did not look out of place in those CG Dark Ages...

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Presumably the bald one considers Adam Post as a ‘much loved Comicsgater’ in the same way he considers Simple Zach’s 499 as a peerless work of art.


Speaking of 499, Simple Zack tendered his very valid and meaningful thoughts on Wonder Woman: Historia where he takes issue with the "terrible coloring":

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Ouch!

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Christ, what a grey blob. Simple Zack nails it once again: how is anyone able to make out anything that's going on in this panel? ! Lets compare these plebian efforts against the work of a master of vibrancy like Meyer:

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Well, if you look at the cover of College of the Dead (or Mermaids), and know nothing about Adam Post (i.e. you're not a weirdo who reads this EVIL Nazi shitposting website), I think a reasonable person can be forgiven for thinking that this is a creative endeavor by Adam Post.
Unless your name is National Lampoon, just using a possessive title itself when you make (and have made) zero direct creative contribution is going to result in questions, hence the issue of the above-mentioned value proposition. But his name appears twice on the cover! Not even gay magazine magnate Jann Wenner would do this and he's a guy who thought the contents of his personal record collection unironically deserved the title "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame".
 
The truth about how Adam Post ever got anywhere is much more stupid than something as straight forward like him bribing himself a spot. What actually happened was that a clip of Smiller and Edwin Boyette sniggering at College of the Dead failing to get more than 100 backers got back to Frog and he got so mad that he decided to promote Post non-stop purely out of spite toward Smiller. But because the book was so unappealing this took several months of shilling to get it past Lonestar, and after a point I'm pretty sure Frog forgot why he was promoting Post in the first place. Post for his part just kept showing up for streams and telling thrilling stories about yard work and how to work out a contract with a printer, as he was smart enough to not rock the boat in any way. It helped that this was immediately post-Rome and the caliber of guests available after the fallout were, well, let's just say Post did not look out of place in those CG Dark Ages...
Promoting something just to spite somebody is lame. I'll lightly razz Frog over Kamen America but, as you know, I actually like Kamen America.

Frog's enemies will likely eternally give him shit for helping Post, but I suppose the fair thing to do here is to give him at least some credit for slamming the big red EMERGENCY STOP button once he found out what Post was about.

None of this answers my original question though: WHY is Adam Post "a well liked Comicsgater?" Is Frog mistaken in this assessment, or did enough people not get the memo?
 
The truth about how Adam Post ever got anywhere is much more stupid than something as straight forward like him bribing himself a spot. What actually happened was that a clip of Smiller and Edwin Boyette sniggering at College of the Dead failing to get more than 100 backers got back to Frog and he got so mad that he decided to promote Post non-stop purely out of spite toward Smiller. But because the book was so unappealing this took several months of shilling to get it past Lonestar, and after a point I'm pretty sure Frog forgot why he was promoting Post in the first place. Post for his part just kept showing up for streams and telling thrilling stories about yard work and how to work out a contract with a printer, as he was smart enough to not rock the boat in any way. It helped that this was immediately post-Rome and the caliber of guests available after the fallout were, well, let's just say Post did not look out of place in those CG Dark Ages...
This is completely believable and less scummy than my payola theory, but is there a clip of Ethan talking about this? I have to think if he was going to do something explicitly to spite Smiller and Edwin he would never fail to mention it whenever Post was shilling his book. Maybe my brain has melted together all the CG streams I've sat through over the last couple of years, but I don't recall Frog pushing College of the Dead and telling his audience to back it as a middle finger to Smiller and Methwin, which would not seem out of place or out of character for Ethan at that time in CG history. When the Post stuff came out earlier this year, Frog came here and said he initially invited Post on the show because he liked some pro-CG videos he'd made. I have to think if it was really to spite the Statler and Waldorf of Comicsgate that he'd have zero problem being up front about it, particularly after Post was booted.

"I promoted Adam Post to spite Mike and getting that garbage tier webcomic to beat Lonestar seemed like a good way to do it" makes way more sense than "I liked his videos and his dull personality so I let him shill his retarded book".
None of this answers my original question though: WHY is Adam Post "a well liked Comicsgater?" Is Frog mistaken in this assessment, or did enough people not get the memo?
Ethan liked him and he didn't piss anybody off. I think that's the bar for "well liked" in CG.
 
This is completely believable and less scummy than my payola theory, but is there a clip of Ethan talking about this? I have to think if he was going to do something explicitly to spite Smiller and Edwin he would never fail to mention it whenever Post was shilling his book.
I dunno. Did he ever say on his stream that he was gonna keep promoting DAMEGANG to spite KF? I mean, he didn't initially, but I'm talking about after we ribbed him about what was in that book. He said/joked as much here.

Truth be told, I think it's very nice that Frog gives other creators a leg up. I suspect Frog is a mostly kind person. I just think maybe he should be a bit more discriminating from here on out, and be careful NOT to do it to spite people. It would give his endorsements more an air of legitimacy.

Ethan liked him and he didn't piss anybody off. I think that's the bar for "well liked" in CG.
Lame. Grifting should be shunned by all groups worth a shit. But hey, a lot of people think CG has come more grift that not at this point anyways. I've been drifting into that mindset for a while now myself.

LIKED is past-tense too. That's why I'm wondering maybe FROG didn't correct the record very well for his followers.
 
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