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On the subject of Mr H, does anybody happen to know anything more about his crowdfunded movie? He mentioned that he lost money on it and won't be trying it again. Disappointing to hear, but it would be interesting to hear him go over it all, like a post-mortem. But not on Frog's show. It's not the right venue for it. You don't want to have Frog there, wanking himself off insufferably, like the grotesque retarded tranny cheerleader that he is.
Black Fields is out. I backed his crowd-fund of it and also bought the Blu-Ray. I won't say it was great and I won't say it sucked. It was a story and it accomplished the goal of being a story. I'm a fan of people who don't let a small budget get in the way of making the movie they want to make, so I wasn't disappointed in it, but I wasn't as excited by it as I have been for other low-budget films. I hope he makes more because he likes a lot of the same things I like, so I see potential for him making entertainment I'll like.

It looks like he doesn't have any more Blu-Rays for sale at this time :(
 
Black Fields is out. I backed his crowd-fund of it and also bought the Blu-Ray. I won't say it was great and I won't say it sucked. It was a story and it accomplished the goal of being a story. I'm a fan of people who don't let a small budget get in the way of making the movie they want to make, so I wasn't disappointed in it, but I wasn't as excited by it as I have been for other low-budget films. I hope he makes more because he likes a lot of the same things I like, so I see potential for him making entertainment I'll like.
That's a shame it didn't wow you, but at least he didn't shit the bed I guess.

I also love short/indie films - when they're good. Hopefully one day we will see another short film on the level of TREEVENGE!

 
Witten is an up-front Ho. She is disgusting, but isn't really a cow because she is mostly honest about who and what she is. Cecil and Malin somewhat accommodate EVS when they are around him. I think the issue with Witten is that she breaks the illusion that the JACK show is something other than what it is.
I can practically smell the AIDS every time I see that foul Witten cunt on screen.
 

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The irony of this idiot telling people to not attack this chick yet half the comments have one retard claim that following SJWs is making him lose his mental health is the funniest shit I have ever seen in my life.

After a run of videos telling people angry at his multiple overdue crowdfund to refund his books and complaining about customers, Richard C Meyer continues cementing his Animal Farm-esque transformation into the two-legged pig by rallying his acolytes against the SJW mob coming against Nick Spencer for writing Secret Empire, described by 2017 Ya Boi Zack a "mean, condescending, bitter person that holds himself above other people" and Secret Empire as a comic that "destroyed Marvel's reputation and directly antagonized its customers"

As you the reader may recall, in Comicsgate's early days, following the Trump election much of the outrage expressed itself in railing against Secret Empire and Nick Spencer's smearing in comics of all Trump supporters as fascists, his critics as stupid racists on social media, and later one of the ringleaders in the blacklisting of anyone supportive or sympathetic towards Comicsgate as "alt-right Nazis". That should be ignored because, in Meyer's words, "his comics sell well" (false, but it's not like Spencer has ever retracted or apologized for anything) but that calling Nick Spencer a Nazi himself is the ultimate evil, going so far as to reference "the banality of evil". He wants to call the SJW calling people Nazis the real Nazis, but can't, lest the viewer remember that Nick Spencer, who he is calling on his audience to support, is himself the textbook definition of what's being described.

What's the cause of this about face? Why should Nick Spencer be protected from the environment he himself cultivated? The simplest explanation is that in the past he had the perspective of an outsider looking in, while now Meyer sees Nick Spencer as a "fellow professional" and a peer, unlike the losers and outsiders (both customer and creator) who rallied behind Meyer when he called on them; their receiving of the same treatment from Spencer is apparently beneath consideration.

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others, I guess.
 
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What's the cause of this about face? Why should Nick Spencer be protected from the environment he himself cultivated? The simplest explanation is that in the past he had the perspective of an outsider looking in, while now Meyer sees Nick Spencer as a "fellow professional" and a peer, unlike the losers and outsiders (both customer and creator) who rallied behind Meyer when he called on them; their receiving of the same treatment from Spencer is apparently beneath consideration.

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others, I guess.

I think this is part of Richard mentally checking out of crowdfunding comics. I suspect he really believes that if he simps for Nick Spencer now that there is some chance that he can realize his real dream and work for marvel. Its not happening.....

He has been losing his mind for the last several weeks. Between his late books and these sorts of crazy videos, his audience is going to be evaporating. Nobody wants to hear this sort of stuff from Richard. Its kind of like the end of the old movie "Network" where Peter Finch's character (Howard Beale) starts giving depressing sermons to the tv audience for his program. In "Network" the solution was in the end for the TV network to arrange Beale's assassination to save the tv program.

Maybe one of the CG elders needs to sit down with Richard and tell him its time to go back to his IT job.
 
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I mean it's a valid question, it's just that it needs to be asked along with a bunch of other questions which aren't being asked. Awareness is good. Monomania isn't.
Monomania is exactly what you saw on display here. Even from Ethan, since I don't think he asked any questions, or conducted any analysis, other than that one.

It goes like this: Ethan would (ostensibly) never shill something that exhibits the taint of SJWism. Ethan shills this thing. Therefore, we should all buy the thing he's shilling in order to stick it to the SJWs.

Except that's dumb and pointless. I got nothing wrong with Ethan wanting to run a movement that eschews political correctness, but if anybody believes that buying all non or anti-SJW comics he promotes is really sticking it to the SJWs in control of the mainstream, I got some bad news for you. They don't care. That's not hurting their bottom line. Only the fact you're not buying their shit is hurting their bottom line. You don't need to buy any alternative. You could just as soon give up comics outright. More and more people are getting into manga, or discovering other things that interest them.

Moreover, there's plenty of things I can think of that are free from political correctness that can be shit for other reasons. Like DAMEGANG, 499, and Demonatrix.

Buy products. Not slavish loyalty to a hashtag.
 
Just read 499. Aside from the unnecessarily garish colors which add absolutely nothing, it's great. Surprise.

Monomania is exactly what you saw on display here. Even from Ethan, since I don't think he asked any questions, or conducted any analysis, other than that one.

It goes like this: Ethan would (ostensibly) never shill something that exhibits the taint of SJWism. Ethan shills this thing. Therefore, we should all buy the thing he's shilling in order to stick it to the SJWs.

Except that's dumb and pointless. I got nothing wrong with Ethan wanting to run a movement that eschews political correctness, but if anybody believes that buying all non or anti-SJW comics he promotes is really sticking it to the SJWs in control of the mainstream, I got some bad news for you. They don't care. That's not hurting their bottom line. Only the fact you're not buying their shit is hurting their bottom line. You don't need to buy any alternative. You could just as soon give up comics outright. More and more people are getting into manga, or discovering other things that interest them.

Moreover, there's plenty of things I can think of that are free from political correctness that can be shit for other reasons. Like DAMEGANG, 499, and Demonatrix.

Buy products. Not slavish loyalty to a hashtag.

It's strange that this has to be reiterated over and over and over again. There's still this notion that ComicsGate is meant to be about "sticking it to the SJWs" and that buying CG books is "owning the SJWs."

1. We actively recommend NOT supporting media created by people who hate you. So the SJW comics boycott is encouraged. Closing your wallet is our recommendation for "owning the SJWs".

2. The idea behind ComicsGate as a creative/business enterprise is simply to establish a network thru which comics can be created and sold without SJW interference. It's not to say, "buying CYBERFROG hurts SJWs", it's to say that because of SJWs, CYBERFROG wouldn't be allowed to exist if it weren't for ComicsGate. SJWs would threaten anyone in the mainstream who got close to it. They have done so.

Blacklisted comics creators wouldn't be able to create and fund new comics and find success without it. That doesn't mean that they WILL find success, but it's an opportunity to try.

No one is or should be saying that ComicsGaters must support CG comics in order to fight SJWs. The existence of ComicsGate means that we've already beaten the SJWs. Customers should purchase what they think looks cool, or support the creators they want to support for their own reasons.
 
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Simply look into them before promoting them, which Frog already does to some extend. The problem is he looks but doesn't see. I guess you could call it "selective awareness". Let me explain what I mean.
When Frog looks at the work of an SJW, he can easily dissect what he's seeing and trace every flaw back to a singular source, the mental illness of the far left.

Why is the dialogue so bad? Because the authors don't understand genuine human interaction.
Why is this comic so oddly sexual? Because the authors are deviant scum who feel compelled to insert their weirdness into everything they write.
Why is the art so bad? Because the artist doesn't give a shit, they just want to promote an agenda.
Why does none of this feel cool? Because these people don't actually like comics.

Now ask those same questions about the work of someone Frog is friendly with. His answer will suddenly turn into a fifth dimensional quantum physics dissertation about "energy" and "kinetics".
Frog has a pathological blind spot toward those he likes, and this extends to his appraisal of their work.
If he wants to curate what comes out of ALL CAPS he's going to need to start looking at these projects with a much more critical eye and a more discerning mindset than "lmao big asses I dunno!"
Honestly I think Ethan is just trolling. Like he promotes giantess fetish comics to be funny and laugh at all the comments. He wasn't born yesterday.

The stuff coming out of all caps seems to be highly vetted and held to a higher standard. Ethan is a youtube host. He has to fill hours of time and be entertaining. Doing a radio show is extremely hard and requires some planning.
I watch his appearances and show from time to time and he definitely show preps. I'd say he probably stresses out more in a 10 hour day than appears chill and calm just from the amount of work he probably has to do.

I dunno, maybe it's easy compared to working at DC as an art slave.
 
I missed the Adam Post drama. Does anyone care to provide the CliffsNotes version for someone too lazy to type A-D-A-M-P-O-S-T into search?

Nick Spencer's smearing in comics of all Trump supporters as fascists, his critics as stupid racists on social media, and later one of the ringleaders in the blacklisting of anyone supportive or sympathetic towards Comicsgate as "alt-right Nazis"... calling Nick Spencer a Nazi himself is the ultimate evil, going so far as to reference "the banality of evil". He wants to call the SJW calling people Nazis the real Nazis, but can't, lest the viewer remember that Nick Spencer, who he is calling on his audience to support, is himself the textbook definition of what's being described.

Naziception. :stress:

if anybody believes that buying all non or anti-SJW comics he promotes is really sticking it to the SJWs in control of the mainstream, I got some bad news for you. They don't care. That's not hurting their bottom line...

Moreover, there's plenty of things I can think of that are free from political correctness that can be shit for other reasons. Like DAMEGANG, 499, and Demonatrix.

The only one hurt by a customer buying CG books is the customer themselves.

Buy products. Not slavish loyalty to a hashtag.

'Slavish loyalty to a hashtag'. CG in a nutshell.

Adding to that: the metaphor of the hot dog stand is an old one. At this point I think CG is more like a lemonade stand. It's run by someone naive and inexperienced, they don't really know what they're doing. The actual product is nothing to go out of your way for, it's just sugar and flavoring in water. You buy it because you want to encourage the seller in their token effort to play the role of plucky underdog, taking on the big bad corporate world. Aw, bless their heart. If you don't buy their crappy product, they might pout.

The biggest difference in CG is that the gap between the seller's innocence and the buyer's understanding is a lot narrower. There's also at least one big exception to that comparison, but it still involves a certain amount of pity-buying.

The stuff coming out of all caps seems to be highly vetted and held to a higher standard. Ethan is a youtube host. He has to fill hours of time and be entertaining. Doing a radio show is extremely hard and requires some planning.
I watch his appearances and show from time to time and he definitely show preps. I'd say he probably stresses out more in a 10 hour day than appears chill and calm just from the amount of work he probably has to do.

This might explain one book every two to three years.
 
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Honestly I think Ethan is just trolling. Like he promotes giantess fetish comics to be funny and laugh at all the comments. He wasn't born yesterday.

The stuff coming out of all caps seems to be highly vetted and held to a higher standard. Ethan is a youtube host. He has to fill hours of time and be entertaining. Doing a radio show is extremely hard and requires some planning.
I watch his appearances and show from time to time and he definitely show preps. I'd say he probably stresses out more in a 10 hour day than appears chill and calm just from the amount of work he probably has to do.

I dunno, maybe it's easy compared to working at DC as an art slave.

Its not that its easy. Its that it was his dream. He used to more openly talk about it in 2018 and before that on his pre-youtube show. He is one of those old guys whose dream was to do a radio show and at one point he actually wanted to be Howard Stern. In the early days, he used to openly refer to Cecil and another person as his "wack pack". Warcampaign seemed to be originally modeled on how Howard Stern weaponized his audience. People tend to spend their time on what their true interests are. And his true interest is doing a radio show rather than drawing comics. That is likely why there are so few books produced and why they are so late.

The comics are best thought of as program merchandise that people buy to show their support for the radio program and the host. People pay $100 for a comic in the same way that people who contribute $100 to PBS or NPR to get a coffee mug.

He and WORM are oddly similar on this point. Doug's big dream was to do political talk radio. He cares about that way more than his comics at this point in his life. Doug's thing since 2018 was trying to figure out some scheme by which he could break out to a mass audience and then shift to politics. He kept trying different things for several years and got nowhere. Then he finally did it a few months ago. And in the aftermath, you can really see how comics are such a relative lower priority to him.

And yeah. He is trolling. His admiration for 499 is about as honest as his appreciation of Wenger's comics abilities. But his ability to do a certain kind of trolling is one of the things that has allowed him to survive over time.
 
Boy do I hate some of you.

BTW, DAMEGANG is at $6390! Great looking comic! No wonder.
 
I got nothing wrong with Ethan wanting to run a movement that eschews political correctness, but if anybody believes that buying all non or anti-SJW comics he promotes is really sticking it to the SJWs in control of the mainstream, I got some bad news for you. They don't care.

The definition of CG over time has been a moving target. There was a time a few years ago where it was all about "sticking it to the SJWS". But most people are not going to remember "move the needle" or "#CGONLY" now. And certain people will simply deny that stuff ever happened because it doesn't fit the narrative. There was a long time were people were told that giving money to Richard and supporting CG comics was all about sticking it to the SJWs. Alot of people backed the first wave of CG comics for that reason.

We were told in stream after stream by everyone that Mitch was a victim. Mitch raised all sorts of money on being a victim and how we needed to fight back against the SJWs. But today Mitch says that none of that ever happened. That he was just being "polite" to the "abhorrent" people in CG.

Richard sold Jawbreakers, pushed "move the needle" and raised alot of money for a lawsuit based on sticking it to the SJWs. But now Richard says that the people who hated him in 2018 like Nick Spencer are the good guys that we need to get behind. And what is a lawsuit against Mark Waid compared to creating a dumb comic book homage to the 1980s movie "Red Dawn". When it came down to it, Richard was willing to "fight the SJWs" with other peoples money but not his own.

Was it all stupid.? Yeah. But did it happen? Yeah it happened. It happened no matter how much people want to pretend now that it didn't.
 
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BTW, DAMEGANG is at $6390! Great looking comic! No wonder.

They should add a very high funding tier for a "your face here" perk on one of the panels of somebody getting crushed to death between the ass cheeks of a giantess. Gotta be somebody's fetish.
 
Hey that's a fair question I don't want anything gross like gay people in my degenerate giantess comics :story:

The amount of explicitly fetishistic content that gets funded by CG because they come out as vaguely anti-woke is hilarious.
Remember the first fetish comic of CG was little girl lethal of slick jimmy love infame. Ethan is a big fan of Slick Jimmy.
 
They should add a very high funding tier for a "your face here" perk on one of the panels of somebody getting crushed to death between the ass cheeks of a giantess. Gotta be somebody's fetish.
Honestly that's a brilliant idea, some "people" commission art of themselves with all sorts of fictional characters or people in all kinds of degenerate situations so there is a market for that, and you don't even have to say which character it is so no one will know.
 
I missed the Adam Post drama. Does anyone care to provide the CliffsNotes version for someone too lazy to type A-D-A-M-P-O-S-T into search?
Basically, Mister Dongs found out that the College of the Dead books and the Mermaid books were originally webtoons written by sjw creators a few years back and Adam was passing it off as his work. Now, we can understand why the page formatting was the way it was for those books because it was meant to be viewed on a computer screen and not a comic book.

So when Frog found out about this, he said that Adam Post is no longer invited to his show until he came up with a book that he himself fully created and not someone else’s work that he is passing off as his own.
 
At this point I think CG is more like a lemonade stand. It's run by someone naive and inexperienced, they don't really know what they're doing. The actual product is nothing to go out of your way for, it's just sugar and flavoring in water. You buy it because you want to encourage the seller in their token effort to play the role of plucky underdog, taking on the big bad corporate world. Aw, bless their heart.
This is exceedingly accurate for most CG creators. Some people are actually selling quality hot dogs, but most are like little kids in the lemonade business. And it's not good lemonade. And they're charging $25 per cup, the little scamps.
 
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