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Has the Congolese military even tried to put up any resistance to M23?
Conflict in the Congo
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Chuckwagon
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70 Christians were decapitated in a church in the village of Kasanga, in a part of North Kivu north of where M23 had been fighting. (Archive) The party responsible were the 'Allied Democratic Forces' or ADF, a faction of Islamist niggers who originally spawned in Uganda in the '90s but soon expanded operations to the Congo and have since sworn fealty to ISIS; they are enemies of both the Congolese gov't and Rwanda/M23 and had no part in the fighting for Goma or Bukavu, but most probably took advantage of the chaos down south to indulge in opportunistic atrocities like this massacre while anyone who could've thrashed them were busy fighting each other.
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Your phone, computer, etc. were almost certainly made with minerals from the Congo. It's a massive prolapsed and AIDS-ridden shithole to be sure, but the shit that comes out of it includes huge amounts of coltan, tungsten, tin, and half the world's cobalt - both of which are needed for modern electronic parts. Then there are the classic valuable minerals like gold, copper, diamonds, etc. which never go out of fashion and which Congo also has in abundance. Many of the huge ass mines where the above are found are in the eastern provinces of Congo, and that is what everyone there is really fighting over: the opportunity to get real motherfucking rich, real quick by supplying the rest of us with the things that go into our electronics.
On that note, the president of Congo has found quite possibly the only guy who can still save his ass from getting Gaddafi'd by M23 and the Rwandans now: no less than Imperator Caesar Donaldus Ioannes Trumpus Augustus Primus himself. (Archive) Frankly if the Americans can take over Congo's resources, Trump probably won't even need that mineral deal with Ukraine he's been demanding. Currently the Red Chinese have a huge stake in the Congo's mineral wealth, so locking it down for America hurts a strategic rival in the bigger picture as well. According to this NYT article the Euros seem to be shifting towards backing Rwanda in exchange for deals on minerals from the mines they take over, and since Trump & Vance have gotten into an increasingly heated war of words with the EU (who fundamentally represent an evolved form of technocratic liberalism that's completely at odds with their own conservative populist streak, and whose interests & positions re: things like the Ukraine war are also utterly out of lockstep if not directly opposed to Washington's own), fucking over their neocolonial games & resource access may well also be to America's benefit in more ways than the purely material now.
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There should honestly be an Islamic State/Jihadism happening thread, shit goes down all the time in Africa, there might have been a thread from back in the day in regards to this but I assume it's dead. ISCAP are very active right now in the congo and uganda.
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TOTAL WAR: CONGO
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If this happens, can we send American blacks to the Congo?
One of the soldiers fighting for Biafra was a German named Rolf Steiner , who wrote a great book called The Last Adventurer about it.
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Those smart missiles ain't cheap
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He's still alive
. He sounds incompetent as hell going by all the stories everybody else tells about him.
Chuckwagon
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Surely the Congolese have suffered, and are continuing to suffer enough already...
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Finally getting some proper mainstream attention, because muh minerals of course;
https://www.thetimes.com/world/afri...-undo-trumps-bid-for-mineral-riches-h5m7xkmdd/https://archive.is/3y2R7
I don't give a toss about rocks so the interdasting bit is Kabila jr making a comeback, lots of scores to settle, much blood to be spilled.
https://www.thetimes.com/world/afri...-undo-trumps-bid-for-mineral-riches-h5m7xkmdd/https://archive.is/3y2R7
After his return from military training in China, the handsome young officer seen at the side of Laurent Kabila was presented to the ranks merely as an adviser. Joseph Kabila, however, was far more than that.
The son of the ruler who overthrew the Mobutu regime and came to control the Democratic Republic of Congo’s vast mineral resources, Kabila would succeed his assassinated father as president and become one of Africa’s most infamous alleged plunderers-in-chief.
Today, Kabila, who was forced from power after almost 20 years following deadly protests against his rule in 2019, has returned on what he says is a mission to solve the country’s bloody civil war.
Yet even as he was preparing to address the nation on Sunday, few were ready to believe his motives extended beyond personal enrichment and the interests of the man who rules the neighbouring Rwanda.
Kabila, 53, who fled the country six years ago, is a firm ally of Paul Kagame, the Rwandan strongman president who is accused of backing the rebellion of M23 rebels in the DR Congo. Laurent Kabila fought with the help of the same rebel groups that threaten the country today as he swept through the jungles to overthrow Mobutu in 1997.
His son has maintained a power base in the country’s east, which is held by armed groups backed by Kagame. Kabila’s reported presence in Goma comes after claims that he had been in Kigali, Rwanda’s capital, and amid allegations that he is planning an “insurrection” to seize power again.
Goma is the capital of North Kivu province, one of the key cities taken in recent months by M23 and their allies in a war against the government in Kinshasa, led by President Tshisekedi, who ousted Kabila. The US, UK, and other western allies allege that Rwanda is backing M23 while the UN says there are also thousands of Rwandan boots on the ground.
“How can Joseph Kabila, to whom the republic has given everything, attack his own country?” asked Bernard Kapitula, an official with the ruling Union for Democracy and Social Progress (UDSP) party in Beni, Ituri province, where the government has relocated from North Kivu. “Kabila’s problem is that he doesn’t understand that power has an end,” he added.
He claimed that Kabila was trying to repeat the 1997 feat carried out by his father and the rebels that fought Mobutu under the banner of the Alliance of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Congo.
However, for many in the West there is more at stake than just ending the bloodshed. The return of Kabila threatens to derail growing international interests in the DR Congo. An ally of President Trump called Erik Prince is reported to have agreed to assist the elected government in Kinshasa in securing the country’s mines.
Prince is the founder of the infamous private security firm Blackwater, which he sold in 2010 after revelations that the outfit had killed civilians in Iraq.
The DR Congo is rich in critical minerals for the global technology industry such as cobalt and coltan. America’s surging appetite for rare earth minerals in light of China’s domination of the market and Trump’s trade war with Beijing has meant that Washington has sought to strike a Ukraine-style minerals-for-security deal with Kinshasa.
However, Kabila’s return would almost certainly complicate Kinshasa’s efforts to take back the country’s east. It would also reinvigorate the rebels. “Kabila has a very large network,” said Dady Saleh, a political and economic analyst in Goma. “He has much influence, with a lot of money that he has amassed, and he will have enabled many Congolese politicians who are well known and Congolese generals as well, with many intelligence agents under his direction.”
Trump dispatched his senior adviser for Africa, Massad Boulos, to tour DR Congo and Rwanda this month to investigate the minerals-for-security deal as well as press Kagame’s government in Rwanda for peace.
The presence of Prince in the DR Congo is, for analysts like Saleh, a source of growing unease. They fear US-linked mercenaries adding another layer of complication to conflict in a region that already has myriad international interests, including the Ugandan army, UN peacekeepers and a southern African force that is in the midst of a withdrawal.
“The great nations, whether Russia, France or the US, have often used mercenaries for missions that do not have the necessary ethics to fit with their way of public thinking in their own countries,” Saleh said. “It is not certain that the Congolese people will come out a winner with this economic ambition of Trump.”
China, too, has interests in the DR Congo with Washington claiming it holds a “virtual monopoly’ on the mining industry. According to the Council on Foreign Relations, Kinshasa is fighting rebels using Chinese drones and weaponry.
Washington is increasingly adopting a hands-off approach to Africa, the Trump administration reportedly making severe cuts to its diplomatic efforts. According to The New York Times, Trump is seeking to eliminate the State Department’s bureau of African affairs, which oversees policy in sub-Saharan Africa, and close embassies and consulates in the region.
Kinshasa has moved swiftly against Kabila and his allies and over the weekend the interior ministry suspended his People’s Party for Reconstruction and Democracy. The ministry denounced Kabila’s “deliberate choice to re-enter the country via Goma, which is controlled by the enemy, who have curiously assured his security”.
It also called his party “accomplices in the Rwandan aggression via M23”.
Tshisekedi accused Kabila of leading an “insurrection” while the Ministry of Justice ordered his prosecution on charges of high treason. It said that it had ordered the seizure of his properties and possessions in the country on the grounds that he was participating in the aggression carried out by Rwanda and rebel groups.
The M23, which stands for the March 23 movement, has been active since 2012. Its latest campaign began in earnest in 2022 and has intensified since the beginning of this year. The rebels took the city of Goma in late January amid intense fighting that is a hallmark of decades of conflict in the region.
Some 3,000 people have been killed in the conflict so far, and about 780,000 were forced to flee their homes between November 2024 and January 2025.
The son of the ruler who overthrew the Mobutu regime and came to control the Democratic Republic of Congo’s vast mineral resources, Kabila would succeed his assassinated father as president and become one of Africa’s most infamous alleged plunderers-in-chief.
Today, Kabila, who was forced from power after almost 20 years following deadly protests against his rule in 2019, has returned on what he says is a mission to solve the country’s bloody civil war.
Yet even as he was preparing to address the nation on Sunday, few were ready to believe his motives extended beyond personal enrichment and the interests of the man who rules the neighbouring Rwanda.
Kabila, 53, who fled the country six years ago, is a firm ally of Paul Kagame, the Rwandan strongman president who is accused of backing the rebellion of M23 rebels in the DR Congo. Laurent Kabila fought with the help of the same rebel groups that threaten the country today as he swept through the jungles to overthrow Mobutu in 1997.
His son has maintained a power base in the country’s east, which is held by armed groups backed by Kagame. Kabila’s reported presence in Goma comes after claims that he had been in Kigali, Rwanda’s capital, and amid allegations that he is planning an “insurrection” to seize power again.
Goma is the capital of North Kivu province, one of the key cities taken in recent months by M23 and their allies in a war against the government in Kinshasa, led by President Tshisekedi, who ousted Kabila. The US, UK, and other western allies allege that Rwanda is backing M23 while the UN says there are also thousands of Rwandan boots on the ground.
“How can Joseph Kabila, to whom the republic has given everything, attack his own country?” asked Bernard Kapitula, an official with the ruling Union for Democracy and Social Progress (UDSP) party in Beni, Ituri province, where the government has relocated from North Kivu. “Kabila’s problem is that he doesn’t understand that power has an end,” he added.
He claimed that Kabila was trying to repeat the 1997 feat carried out by his father and the rebels that fought Mobutu under the banner of the Alliance of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Congo.
However, for many in the West there is more at stake than just ending the bloodshed. The return of Kabila threatens to derail growing international interests in the DR Congo. An ally of President Trump called Erik Prince is reported to have agreed to assist the elected government in Kinshasa in securing the country’s mines.
Prince is the founder of the infamous private security firm Blackwater, which he sold in 2010 after revelations that the outfit had killed civilians in Iraq.
The DR Congo is rich in critical minerals for the global technology industry such as cobalt and coltan. America’s surging appetite for rare earth minerals in light of China’s domination of the market and Trump’s trade war with Beijing has meant that Washington has sought to strike a Ukraine-style minerals-for-security deal with Kinshasa.
However, Kabila’s return would almost certainly complicate Kinshasa’s efforts to take back the country’s east. It would also reinvigorate the rebels. “Kabila has a very large network,” said Dady Saleh, a political and economic analyst in Goma. “He has much influence, with a lot of money that he has amassed, and he will have enabled many Congolese politicians who are well known and Congolese generals as well, with many intelligence agents under his direction.”
Trump dispatched his senior adviser for Africa, Massad Boulos, to tour DR Congo and Rwanda this month to investigate the minerals-for-security deal as well as press Kagame’s government in Rwanda for peace.
The presence of Prince in the DR Congo is, for analysts like Saleh, a source of growing unease. They fear US-linked mercenaries adding another layer of complication to conflict in a region that already has myriad international interests, including the Ugandan army, UN peacekeepers and a southern African force that is in the midst of a withdrawal.
“The great nations, whether Russia, France or the US, have often used mercenaries for missions that do not have the necessary ethics to fit with their way of public thinking in their own countries,” Saleh said. “It is not certain that the Congolese people will come out a winner with this economic ambition of Trump.”
China, too, has interests in the DR Congo with Washington claiming it holds a “virtual monopoly’ on the mining industry. According to the Council on Foreign Relations, Kinshasa is fighting rebels using Chinese drones and weaponry.
Washington is increasingly adopting a hands-off approach to Africa, the Trump administration reportedly making severe cuts to its diplomatic efforts. According to The New York Times, Trump is seeking to eliminate the State Department’s bureau of African affairs, which oversees policy in sub-Saharan Africa, and close embassies and consulates in the region.
Kinshasa has moved swiftly against Kabila and his allies and over the weekend the interior ministry suspended his People’s Party for Reconstruction and Democracy. The ministry denounced Kabila’s “deliberate choice to re-enter the country via Goma, which is controlled by the enemy, who have curiously assured his security”.
It also called his party “accomplices in the Rwandan aggression via M23”.
Tshisekedi accused Kabila of leading an “insurrection” while the Ministry of Justice ordered his prosecution on charges of high treason. It said that it had ordered the seizure of his properties and possessions in the country on the grounds that he was participating in the aggression carried out by Rwanda and rebel groups.
The M23, which stands for the March 23 movement, has been active since 2012. Its latest campaign began in earnest in 2022 and has intensified since the beginning of this year. The rebels took the city of Goma in late January amid intense fighting that is a hallmark of decades of conflict in the region.
Some 3,000 people have been killed in the conflict so far, and about 780,000 were forced to flee their homes between November 2024 and January 2025.
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The Rwandans are going full TND and Im here for it. Take as much land as you can you glorious bastards!
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This is the war that I'm the most concerned about because there are so many competing interests, not to mention the scale of death which is fucking dreadful. Even some sort of Balkanization would be bloody and not solve the regional and resource issues at hand. The Second Congo War never really ended. The odds of this conflict becoming a world war are non-zero, especially when you factor in the critical minerals involved. Memes and jokes aside, this is just awful.
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I'm team Congo due to severe Jew fatigue. Dan Gertler was such a jew in the eastern Congo that even the Trump admin sanctioned him (until Alan Dershowitz told him to stop being a bad goy, then the Biden admin resumed the sanctions), and no Israeli billionaire who loves fucking over countries as a money grubbing parasite worth his salt would ever rise above sneaky deals with the enemy, especially when that enemy is the very Israel friendly Rwanda.
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After their flashy start back in January, it looks as though M23/Rwanda have run out of steam as of mid-year. American Secretary of State Rubio has brokered a peace deal between Congo & Rwanda, acknowledging territorial integrity (that's to say, no Rwandan annexation of the M23-controlled territories) & the disarmament and 'conditional integration' of non-state armed groups (ie. M23) among other conditions. (Archive) The peace agreement is set to be formally signed a week from now. Here's Le Monde reporting on this development, and Redstate providing a triumphalist American conservative perspective on the same. (Archive 1, Archive 2)
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So when the going got just a little tuff the M23 gave up? What pussies.