Crusader Kings 3 - Its Crusader Kings 2 with a paint job

[TheArtilleryman]

Paganism is a “place-holder” religion. It’s supposed to run the gamut from Europe to Arabia. With how popular Britain is, there should be a separate Gaelic Druidism and Breton Paganism religion. Definitely gotta be some mods out there for it; I know because After the Fall did something like that.

Have they expressed any intent to give earlier starting dates again? Charlemagne? If there was any time to give us these religions in game, it would be then.

Until then this mod will have to suffice, but sadly it is not yet RTP compatible.

EDIT: Now I think on it, that's probably the most logical reason they've neglected Euro paganism, to bring it in later as DLC with earlier start dates. The description for Insular Christianity alludes to these faiths and we already kind of had them in CK2, albeit as an even more generic "Germanic paganism" that encompassed most of pre-Catholic Europe and Scandinavia.

 

[Mnutu]

Have they expressed any intent to give earlier starting dates again? Charlemagne? If there was any time to give us these religions in game, it would be then.

Until then this mod will have to suffice, but sadly it is not yet RTP compatible.

No, 867 is as early as they’ll go. There’s zero reason not to include it going forward, as you can become fucking Trojan or ancient Egyptian.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

No, 867 is as early as they’ll go. There’s zero reason not to include it going forward, as you can become fucking Trojan or ancient Egyptian.

You're certain they won't? Thank God for mods in any case. Ancient Egyptian sounds like a fun time.

 

[Mnutu]

You're certain they won't? Thank God for mods in any case. Ancient Egyptian sounds like a fun time.

They’ve been adamant about it from the beginning, and then only new start date given was later, not earlier. IIRC, they said it was pushing the limits of reality, sources, and fun. Tribal snowball is already a big problem in 867, imagine if you 100 more years?

I really just want a proper shattered worlds option. More Rules fucking crashes the game 2-3 years in every time. To do that would necessitate a proper courtier culling or backgrounding system. If I’m a count in Europe, I think it’s safe to say that I don’t need every county in India and Africa to be fully simulated. When they eventually add in the rest of Asia, that can go on the back burner too.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

They’ve been adamant about it from the beginning, and then only new start date given was later, not earlier. IIRC, they said it was pushing the limits of reality, sources, and fun. Tribal snowball is already a big problem in 867, imagine if you 100 more years?

I really just want a proper shattered worlds option. More Rules fucking crashes the game 2-3 years in every time. To do that would necessitate a proper courtier culling or backgrounding system. If I’m a count in Europe, I think it’s safe to say that I don’t need every county in India and Africa to be fully simulated. When they eventually add in the rest of Asia, that can go on the back burner too.

Damn, shame.

I feel like both of our issues are a consequence of the larger map. Yours for obvious reasons, and mine because those issues with earlier dates never troubled them in CK2, why now? They don't want to do guesswork on the history of central Africa I bet.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

The Holy sites for it are so illogical and far apart I've half a mind to just install one of the mods that gives more eurocentric or Celtic paganism. I shouldn't have to hold land in India to reform an old European religion. For all the niche batshit and extinct religions of third world countries that are featured in this game, they couldn't flesh anything of pre-Catholic Europe?

I'll try shifting to martial.

As a follow up, I've been messing around with game files as according to this post because none of the gods-damned pagan improvement mods are being updated.

Opted for Irish pagan sites because the high chiefdom of Connacht seems to be the only 867 starting realm that is powerful enough to withstand the many wars from Christian neighbours and the rest of the island acts as a sort of screen against viking raiders.

Ivar the Boneless' son is my son-in-law and the majority of Britain is now ruled by Haesteinn. The fucking Norsemen are going to accomplish my goal before me.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Godherja is taking a long time to update, I hope God they add some cool shit to justify it.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

Godherja is taking a long time to update, I hope God they add some cool shit to justify it.

That looks really interesting. How does it compare to the base game aside from being fictional?

The only mod I've checked out so far is AGOT which as a fanboy is fantastic. I mean to try Fallen Eagle soon.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I tell myself I wanna get into RISK games but it's really just CK3. Is it still complete dogshit? I heard the plague dlc raped the story and the fact you have to prepare for it in every playthrough ruins it. In fact, experiencing the same people achieving the same shit every playthrough unless you specifically combat it is why I find it not very appealing.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

That looks really interesting. How does it compare to the base game aside from being fictional?

The only mod I've checked out so far is AGOT which as a fanboy is fantastic. I mean to try Fallen Eagle soon.

I've played a number of total conversions and even big ass mod lists that overhaul the base game, Godherja is pretty damn unique. Despite being written by a troon (or was it just the dev team that is filled with them?) the lore is actually pretty interesting to read as well, but the actual gameplay mechanics are pretty intuitive, the magic system at least. It's heavily work in progress but already shows a lot of promise though I do doubt they'll "complete" the mod as it's just too ambitious, but damn they're trying. You're basically at the end of the world (or at least the main game's continent), the lands were fucked up with natural disasters from magic bullshit or something and then some retard decided to cast "blood magic grey goo" which was known to be wildly uncontrollable and decimated an entire continent (or was it before the natural disasters?), it only goes after people who are at least slightly magical but uh...most of the world's population is slightly magical. Yeah, he cast that spell. It worked as well as the link said it did (50% of the population is dead). Oh and he broke the moon during a war and doomed the world twice. and you can also play as him lol.

The magic system is as rewarding as it is punishing. Yeah you can cast spells that can remove entire baronies and their people from existence, good luck with the side effects ravaging your system! Or you can go small and make your army borderline invincible and have a near guarantee to capture anyone you fight in either a battle or siege with much less or even no side effects if you're smart about it. Or you can doom the world for a third fucking time and cause the sun to die screaming as every star in the universe is consumed by your void God as the world visual dies as well. Just don't engage in the community, at least as little as possible, like everything PDX related it's infested with troons. I went to check if anyone had the same specific issue I had in the dicksword before I realized there's a github and I immediately saw the admin having a hissing fit and banning people so I left lol. Get past that and there's just a lot of shit to offer for something in heavy development though they're doing a good job. Fixing some of the more jaring parts of the map to make it more cohesive, fixing performance issues (AGOT dev take notes you hacks), more features, and we might get complete Roads to Power functionality.

Guy named Soul Tomato covers the game a lot so check him out. Since magic is probably the most interesting feature aside from the lore, here's a video he made, may or may not be slightly outdated:

 

[TheArtilleryman]

I have discovered the magic of Hasteinn and elevating the Isle of Mann, becoming Pirate Legendsteinn. Norsemen in general are a power trip aren't they?

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Someone wanted to make a patch that removes the pedo jap shit.

Reminder, this is a mod that's not even original, and the claims it makes regarding its "better performance" over the original (among other things) is unproven.

Lol shame it didn't double down on the 40k but it's better than...loli.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-164-realm-maintenance.1730576/

The un-retarding of the crusader AI makes me happy. No longer will my continental spiritual cleansings have to be a one man job.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-164-realm-maintenance.1730576/

The un-retarding of the crusader AI makes me happy. No longer will my continental spiritual cleansings have to be a one man job.

Free update is great, but don't get your hopes up too much. This is this PDX after all.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

Free update is great, but don't get your hopes up too much. This is this PDX after all.

I am admittedly a whale for CK. At least you can also pirate if desired.

We're also getting Asia:

You can finally import some nihongi waifus.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

I am admittedly a whale for CK. At least you can also pirate if desired.

I mean, what's the point of buying the DLC if it's so easy to pirate anyway? I mean there's the convenience of having them always ready so you don't have to get the DLC files again for whatever reason (moving devices or deleting the zips to save space), but if you're not the slightest bit lazy that's not much of an inconvenience. Besides, PDX is scummy as hell so that's a moral good on top of that.

You can finally import some nihongi waifus.

Watch it be worse than those huge Asia expansion mods.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

I mean, what's the point of buying the DLC if it's so easy to pirate anyway? I mean there's the convenience of having them always ready so you don't have to get the DLC files again for whatever reason (moving devices or deleting the zips to save space), but if you're not the slightest bit lazy that's not much of an inconvenience. Besides, PDX is scummy as hell so that's a moral good on top of that.

Watch it be worse than those huge Asia expansion mods.

I think I am just the slightest bit lazy then, it is easier and I justify it because at least in CKs case most of the DLC actually gives mechanical additions to the gameplay, I don't mind supporting that. Forget the cosmetic attire DLCs, I'm not touching that.

Also I'm not at all familiar with Paradox other than having started playing CK2 and then CK3 within the last year. I've barely followed them as a company until now, what's so scummy about them?

 

[why42]

I think I am just the slightest bit lazy then, it is easier and I justify it because at least in CKs case most of the DLC actually gives mechanical additions to the gameplay, I don't mind supporting that. Forget the cosmetic attire DLCs, I'm not touching that.

Also I'm not at all familiar with Paradox other than having started playing CK2 and then CK3 within the last year. I've barely followed them as a company until now, what's so scummy about them?

They are known for releasing ton of dlcs for their games and stuff that should of been in the base game. Ck2 for example you needed a dlc to play vikings,Indians and Muslims. You needed dlc to add role-playing stuff and the ability to create your own ruler. Vicky2 you needed a dlc to make the game playable. They have a habbit of dumbing down their newer games as well. They are also known for making bad dlcs. One of the dlcs for hoi4 was litteraly a ripoff of a mod from the steamworkshop.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Forget the cosmetic attire DLCs, I'm not touching that.

Fair, wish more mods did cosmetics but I think most considers the CFP enough, while others attach it to their overhaul mods.

Also I'm not at all familiar with Paradox other than having started playing CK2 and then CK3 within the last year. I've barely followed them as a company until now, what's so scummy about them?

They are known for releasing ton of dlcs for their games and stuff that should of been in the base game. Ck2 for example you needed a dlc to play vikings,Indians and Muslims. You needed dlc to add role-playing stuff and the ability to create your own ruler. Vicky2 you needed a dlc to make the game playable. They have a habbit of dumbing down their newer games as well. They are also known for making bad dlcs. One of the dlcs for hoi4 was litteraly a ripoff of a mod from the steamworkshop.

Yeah that's a huge part of it, what's worse is that it's been going on for long because the average PDX fan (not saying you @TheArtilleryman, far worse people) are...well I think this quote sums it up best:

No one talks about it because their target community is much tighter to the point of being inbred from excess circlejerking.

You think EA is bad, not even close. Here's a classic meme:

With PDX, it's more like
>Top bun, stale with a bit of mold, $40+
>Bottom bun day 1 DLC, spend more money
>Half of meat patty DLC
>Other half of meat patty DLC
>More shit I'm too lazy to write.
Worse part is, very rarely does PDX actually get called out on anything since most of their audience shills. And when they do get called out it's usually counter bombed with toxic positivity (towards the game, opposite towards detractors) or some other bullshit comes up that makes people further discard any criticism of their games. For example, good luck leaving a negative review now that the Chinks are review bombing PDX games for...allowing you to take over parts of China's cores as India...Christ those people are sad. Now they're is in full sweep mode, anyone who dislikes a PDX game is a Chinese shill/bot.
Speaking of the audience, the big part of PDX games is how modifiable they are, unfortunately this has meant that some of the worst scum imaginable flocks to PDX games (PDX, PDX, PDX I should really use a different name) and floods the modding scene with copious amounts of autism. Especially HOI4 and Victoria but CK2/CK3 and Stellaris aren't safe either, just a different, less heinous kind of autism. They deserve each other really.
Then there was Imperator...we don't talk about Imperator. The only people I see recommend Imperator only recommend it for the giant ass community mod called Imperator Invictus.

One of the dlcs for hoi4 was litteraly a ripoff of a mod from the steamworkshop.

Don't recall that mod, but you reminded me of Star Trek: Infinite. A borderline Stellaris mod turned game that was DOA, shit wasn't even put in the oven. The devs didn't even get the change to do anything for it as they were layed off by Paradox (I think) immediately afterwards.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

Do not reform Rome. It is nothing more than a self-destruct sequence that gives you an impossible to overcome barrage of peasant revolts, Mongolian Hordes and diseases. The devs clearly intended for your empire to start imploding and eventually split the very instant you take the "am rome!" decision.

Every single year, a peasent revolt numbering (your max army count + 5000 extra levies) will spawn, evenly dispersed throughout a huge chunk of your empire. They are impossible to beat due to the sheer number of sieges they lay upon your realm, intercontinentally, perfectly organised, EVERY year.

My mistake, apparantly they can actually be beaten with like 30 minutes of micromanaging your rally points every fucking time but I think I'm done with this campaign. Lmao. Fuck CK3 Rome.