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>no mention of Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church
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We've all heard of them, but just to recap:

The Westboro Baptist Church was founded in 1955 in Topeka, Kansas, by attorney Fred Waldron Phelps. Phelps made a name for himself during the Civil Rights movement by representing various black clients. His daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, claims that WBC "dismantled Jim Crow in Kansas".

However, he was disbarred in the 1970s for being a rude, unprofessional asswipe, most notably berating a hostile witness on the stand for being a "slut", falsely accusing her of perverted sexual acts, and threatening to have her exes testify against her when it wasn't relevant to the case.

Around the late 1980s and early 1990s, WBCstarted an anti-gay campaign in response to gays allegedly cruising for sex in Topeka's Gage Park.

Many of them are lawyers and allegedly try to be as provocative as possible, hoping to be assaulted so they can sue

Their notoriety exploded with the advent of the Internet and GWOT. They began to picket at military funerals, claiming God had killed the fallen soldiers for defending an immoral country, as well as other Christian churches, synagogues, schools, Chiefs games, or anything they deem gay-related or immoral.

The BBC once named them "the Most Hated Family in America".

Roughly 20 members have have left and denounced them, including sons Mark and Nate Phelps, and fitness model Lauren Drain.
 
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Aum Shinrikyo is still active (though in smaller numbers and mostly going under the ‘Aleph’ name, loyalists and fanatics still exist. In 2019, a man named Kazuhiro Kusakabe drove his car into a crowd of pederstrians on New Year’s Day, as an act of revenge for Shoko Ashara’s, and other cultists, executions). Include them.
 
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Meat Target said:
>no mention of Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church
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We've all heard of them, but just to recap:
  • Phelps was a lawyer from Topeka, Kansas who got disbarred in the 1970s for being a rude, unprofessional asswipe;
  • Around the late 1980s and early 1990s, he and his family started an anti-gay campaign in response to gays allegedly cruising for sex in Topeka's Gage Park;
  • They would picket military funerals claiming God had killed the fallen soldiers for defending an immoral country, as well as other Christian churches, synagogues, schools, Chiefs games, etc.
  • Many of them are lawyers
  • SCOTUS decided in Snyder v. Phelps (2011) that their protests are protected by the 1st Amendment, even if they're assholes.
  • The BBC once named them "the Most Hated Family in America"
A handful of the children have left and denounced them, including Nate Phelps and fitness model Lauren Drain.
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I don't see them lasting any longer, would they be considered to be on life support? They really fell apart since the father Phelps died. Always found them hilarious.
 
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Phelps was a lawyer from Topeka, Kansas who got disbarred in the 1970s for being a rude, unprofessional asswipe;
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Humorously, he was a civil rights lawyer to be exact. He fought racism just to move straight into extreme homophobia.
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They would picket military funerals claiming God had killed the fallen soldiers for defending an immoral country, as well as other Christian churches, synagogues, schools, Chiefs games, etc.
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Don’t forget to mention that when they protested the schools, it was always in the immediate aftermath of a school shooting (something about everything bad happening being God’s will and punishment upon this sinful nation, y’know their deal). Sandy Hook was the one that people thought really crossed the line, and they were blocked from entering the grounds by a crowd of thousands.
They also were infamous for celebrating the deaths of random celebrities. Robin Williams, Issac Hayes, you name it.
 
There is a podcast called Cultish (Apologia Studios) it's very, very Christian but dissects cults from that perspective. They have a bunch of episodes on Mormonism and other such things and really get into the weeds with it. I think it's great and very enlightening regardless of your religious background or views. Their Jonestown episode played through That recording. It's good stuff.

 
The Plymouth Brethren aka "Exclusive Brethren" are quite notorious for all the usual reasons "Family, Finance, and Fear", Jehovah's Witnesses on steroids essentially, they wear the long skirts/refuse to interact with non fellows/do all the Mormonisms.
Here is a hit piece whining about them hating homos, loads of shit on plebbit about them and all the dodgy deeds they get up to with their church operated businesses too.
They're basically an anti-Semitic stereotype but real and Evangelical Protestant, they have a nasty habit of buying up a bunch of property flooding in planning applications and going full gypsy on the place, nothing they do counts as evil because anyone outside the church is a heathen worldly afterall.
 
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Humorously, he was a civil rights lawyer to be exact. He fought racism just to move straight into extreme homophobia.
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And he supported Bill Clinton, of all people. Though his son Nate said he only took the Civil Rights cases for money and that he'd call them niggers in private.

Nate and his brother Mark also claim that Fred Sr. was physically abusive, and that WBC was organized as an outlet for his anger.
 
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Notably, the Duggars’ handling of Josh Duggar’s sexual abuse scandal—managing it internally and shielding him from legal consequences—was deeply shaped by IBLP’s teachings that prioritize male authority and institutional control over accountability.
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worth mentioning they eventually busted this guy for having CP on his hard drive, and peter scully's infamous hurtcore material was among it. says a lot about what kind of person he was too.
 
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Eligio Bishop, also known as Natureboy
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How can you talk about Natureboy without mentioning this legendary video of him talking about walking naked and having sex in front of his kids :story:. This is one of the most unhinged rants I've seen

Meme version:
 
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I don't see them lasting any longer, would they be considered to be on life support? They really fell apart since the father Phelps died. Always found them hilarious.
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They were never really a thing to begin with, only a few families who gained national attention for being assholes to everyone. Even the next-most anti-LGBT churches denounced them.

They're apparently still doing their thing around Topeka. I think Fred Jr. and Shirley are now nominally in charge. If you just ignore them, they get bored and go home.
 
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You've got an extra Mormons photo hanging around at the bottom of the post as an unused attachment.
 
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They were never really a thing to begin with, only a few families who gained national attention for being assholes to everyone. Even the next-most anti-LGBT churches denounced them.

They're apparently still doing their thing around Topeka. I think Fred Jr. and Shirley Phelps-Roper are now nominally in charge. If you just ignore them, they get bored and go home.
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One (more regular) Baptist local to them who I was internet friends with said that they didn't really believe any of that stuff, well no more than your typical fire and brimstone Southern Baptist preacher anyway. Their MO was to be as offensive, provocative and unpleasant as possible in the hope that someone would assault them or otherwise violate their legal rights, at which point they would use their bar privileges to sue them. Those settlements was apparently their primary source of income. Basically they would chase their own ambulances.

No idea how true that is but at the very least that was the local view of them at their height.
 
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One (more regular) Baptist local to them who I was internet friends with said that they didn't really believe any of that stuff, well no more than your typical fire and brimstone Southern Baptist preacher anyway. Their MO was to be as offensive, provocative and unpleasant as possible in the hope that someone would assault them or otherwise violate their legal rights, at which point they would use their bar privileges to sue them. Those settlements was apparently their primary source of income. Basically they would chase their own ambulances.

No idea how true that is but at the very least that was the local view of them at their height.
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I heard that, too. I think as their infamy grew, people learned to stop taking the bait and just ignore them.

Minor powerlevel: I know people who've encountered them IRL. They once picketed at my Catholic parish (I was there at the time, but was inside the whole time and never saw them).

A relative of mine saw them at his college campus; he claims he made a counter-picket sign of stick figures having buttsex that read, "U MAD?"
 
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I can give a bit more pertinent information on the Mormons and I guess you can pick and choose what you want to include. Hopefully Welper won't come along and slap me with his big meaty claws.

The best part about the "volunteering" is that when they are doing it they are basically required to pay for everything for the entire 1 to 2 year stay. The plane tickets, food, anything else, the only thing they give them is a room which they share with like 10 other people. It's basically a requirement if they don't want to be socially ostracized too

They also have a card which is required to be able to get into their secret temple meetings (not the normal meetings) and each year they have to be interrogated about whether or not they did anything bad (drink coffee) to have it renewed.

Joseph Smith, their founder was also a pedophile who had sex with 15 year old girls. They also believe that black people were cursed by God to have dark skin, which is why they weren't allowed into the church for a long time.


Maybe to make it a bit easier to organize you could leave the names and the images unspoilered, but spoiler the descriptions.
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There is a podcast called Cultish (Apologia Studios) it's very, very Christian but dissects cults from that perspective. They have a bunch of episodes on Mormonism and other such things and really get into the weeds with it. I think it's great and very enlightening regardless of your religious background or views. Their Jonestown episode played through That recording. It's good stuff.


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@WelperHelper99 , can you confirm or deny the volunteering and pedo part?
 
I’ve had a minor interest in Jehovah’s witnesses ever since they started mailing brochures to our house a couple years ago. The more I dig into it, the more batshit insane they sound: like the FAS lovechild of the Mormons and Scientology. They think calling God Jehovah makes them special, and on Easter, they pass around a communion you can’t partake in unless you’re “one of the 144,000 anointed ones”. It seems to be a boomer death cult now more than anything, since younger people have been leaving in droves.
30+ failed apocalypse predictions award!
 
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You might want to add a section on British Israeliism. I don't know if it really has any modern equivalents.
But basically, according to them, both America and the United States are made up of the 13th tribe of Israel and. therefore something something ye we are also Jews..

Also, Christian identity should be up there. It's generally hilarious. Basically, it's Zionism for white people. White people are basically God's actual chosen people. This is 100% accurate and I will not argue. with it.

Cabala s forms of Judaism. I met a few guys and used to go to a synagogue where the rabbi got way too into it and he basically turned the synagogue into his crazy little cult and then he. decided he was a woman.
 
How about the Palmarian “Catholic” Church? It was founded by a gay Spanish Insurance broker, claiming the Catholic Church was being held hostage after they failed to authenticate a Marian Apparition on the grounds of mass hysteria. He crowned himself Pope, and in a twist of irony went blind, as if God Himself wanted the guy to stop his shit. They’re still going strong today.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmarian_Catholic_Church
 
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