Dad conned into thinking baby was his 'devastated' - Ryan Hampson says his proudest moment was becoming a father but the child was not his

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A man whose ex-partner forged paternity test results to make him believe he was the father of her child said what she did had ruined his life.

Ryan Hampson was at the child's birth after rekindling his relationship with Beth Fernley after she forged DNA test results to make it appear there was a 99.9% probability he was the father.

Fernley, 26, of Warrington, Cheshire, admitted fraud by false representation at Liverpool Crown Court and was sentenced to 13 months in jail, suspended for 18 months.

Mr Hampson - whose name was on the child's birth certificate - said his proudest moment was becoming a father, but when he found out it was a lie he was "left grieving over a child that was still alive".

He called for a change in the law to allow for mandatory paternity testing before a birth is registered.

But the Home Office said there were no plans to do so.

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Beth Fernley forged documents claiming Mr Hampson was the child's father
Mr Hampson told BBC North West Tonight that he asked for the DNA test in 2019 after Fernley told him she was pregnant.

The court heard how Fernley had asked Mr Hampson for £300 towards the test, and then sent him screenshots which she claimed were from company EasyDNA.

Mr Hampson then rekindled his relationship with Fernley.

She later forged another letter when the child was a toddler.

That letter suggested the DNA company had made a mistake and he was not the father, the court heard.

When Mr Hampson contacted the firm, the forgery and deception started to unravel.

He said: "They told me that there was no record of me.

"They never sent the letters to me and they actually told me to seek legal advice because they actually thought I was a victim of fraud."

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Ryan Hampson said he wants more recognition and punishment for paternity fraud
He described feeling "shocked", "numb" and "devastated" at the news.

"I honestly couldn't believe it," he said.

His mother, Claire Hampson, said it was "heart-breaking" to watch her son's "whole world fall apart" while trying to process "the fact there's been so much deceit not just to Ryan, but to us as well".

Mr Hampson contacted police in July 2022 and Fernley was arrested.

On sentencing, the Recorder of Liverpool, Judge Andrew Menary, described it as "a particularly dreadful offence".

He said when police became involved she continued to deny she had lied, in a "perpetuation of sinister dishonesty".

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Ryan Hampson said he "adored" the child
Mr Hampson and his family want more recognition and punishment for paternity fraud.

"The actions that were committed were utterly dire.

"We are a victim of fraud and I felt like this should have been taken a lot more seriously."

He wanted to keep a relationship with the child who he said he "adored" but the biological father is now back.

"The hardest thing I ever done was to let [them] go," he said.

"I felt like it was the only right thing for me to step away and I have done that to protect [them]."

Mr Hampson said he is having counselling and with the help of his family, was working to rebuild everything that was taken away from him.

'No changes planned'​

A Home Office spokesman said it took such cases seriously.

The spokesman said: "Fraud, and specifically paternity fraud, is a truly terrible crime, and those who provide false information on a birth certificate already face a criminal conviction.

"Work is under way on a new, expanded Fraud Strategy and we continue to work closely with private industry, law enforcement and tech companies to go after those committing fraud."

However, he added: "There are no plans to change the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953 to include mandatory paternity testing prior to a birth registration taking place."
 
Huh, where does that happen? Genuinely asking.

Usually, the very cheap way mixups are prevented is the baby never leaves the mothers' side, unless either one's doing extremely poorly. They just get the little baby bed cart they use to place in the nurseries and prop them beside the mom's bed. Nurses or randos would literally have to actively intent to kidnap a baby to cause a mixup.
It's common in prenatal checkups to test for any genetic aberrations in the first world. Also while separations might be getting phased out in a lot of the West, separating babies from mothers is still common; for example, when Americans mutilate baby boy penises to put foreskins into cosmetics. Was also common practice through the years of the Covid panic. As for where, this often varies ward by ward in America, and I am not an expert on every other Western nation, so I can't tell you specifically which do and which do not, just that it is generally common practice. I know that's a vague answer, but my point overall is that we are willing to expend whatever resources necessary to ensure women have their kids, and do not see any cost as an object to that, so there is no logical counterargument to giving men the same peace of mind. Well, aside from the obvious motivation of wanting to ensure that cuck babies do not get discovered.

This National Library of Medicine article has a lot more reading, but here are a couple of relevant sections:

"Interventions and procedures that can occur in the hospital during labor and birth include insertion of an intravenous (IV) line, continuous electronic fetal monitoring, bed rest, limited oral intake during labor, cervical ripening, induction or augmentation of labor, artificial rupture of membranes, epidural analgesia, blood draws for laboratory studies, episiotomy, vacuum- or forceps-assisted birth, and cesarean birth. Rates of these procedures are highly variable across hospitals (Lundsberg et al., 2017). For example, Lundsberg and colleagues (2017) found significant differences among hospitals in use of routine IV lines, blood draws, and oral intake."

"After this immediate postpartum recovery period, the woman may be transferred to another unit in the hospital (mother–baby unit) within the perinatal service or remain in the room where she gave birth (labor–delivery–recovery–postpartum room). This placement is based on the configuration of the maternity unit. Generally, large-volume perinatal facilities have separate units for labor and birth care and woman–baby care postpartum. Also varying is the practice of rooming-in, whereby the newborn remains with the mother in her postpartum room, which may or may not be standard practice and is based on the mother’s and newborn’s condition and hospital routines. Likewise, support for breastfeeding, including access to lactation professionals, varies across hospitals."
 
Never gonna happen. It's an issue that only affects guys so nothing will happen. It sucks but that's life for a guy.
Places like France made it straight up illegal.
According to France, which bans paternity testing unless the mother agrees or the state orders it, it is to "preserve the family unit", AKA, state mandated cuckoldry. Obviously France is renowned for its particularly loose, debased women, so I imagine that paternity fraud is more common there than somewhere such as Finland, but this is the same argument I usually see bandied about to oppose paternity testing. Another common one is claiming they are "too expensive", but we already dedicate significant resources to ensuring that women get their baby, including genetic testing to prevent mixups, so that argument doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny. Why is it a perfectly reasonable expenditure to give women peace of mind that their children are theirs, but not reasonable to give the father the same reassurance? The last argument is about genetic information being kept by the government, which already happens, and would not suddenly start because of paternity testing despite the pearl clutching to the contrary. Routine health screenings include sending blood and saliva samples off for testing, and that is not counting the standard genetic testing common at maternity wards.

The real answer is that there is no reason other than perpetuating cuckoldry. I personally suspect that the rates of cuck babies are way higher than anyone wants to be known, so the best way to suppress that information is to just quietly sweep it under the rug and ignore it rather than having the unpleasant experience of addressing a problem. Kinda like what we seem to do with every other issue.
I suspect the same. I'm not usually a "well you wouldn't be worried if you had nothing to hide" kind of guy, but in cases like this? A man is 100% in the right to know the kid is his or not.

So the big pushback against it really makes me wonder just how fucking common this must be for them to be that worried.
In the US he would still be on the hook for child support.
If your name is on the birth certificate , you pay for the kid.
The only way out of it is if the actual father shows up, takes a DNA test and agrees to start paying.

Needless to say that rarely happens.

I am firmly in the paternity testing should be standard camp.

It is sad that this is even controversial.
Never gonna happen. They know that asking for a paternity test is usually taken as an insult to a woman, which is why most men never do. If it was mandatory we might find out what is actually going on.
 
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Ha, a suspended sentence. So she won't ever do a day in jail then. Board feminists, any thoughts?
Fuck the lying bitch and I feel sorry for the dad and the kid. Said my bit about testing earlier in the thread. Just because I think women aren't lesser doesn't mean free license to lie cheat steal and be an otherwise rotten human.
 
what are the arguments against allowing paternity testing?
The main argument I hear is "If every man whose spouse or GF got knocked up by some other man found out, they would all leave. Then the government will have to pick up the tab for the baby. It would cost billions! Better for everyone if the man just doesn't know and pays for it."


You hear a lot about "Most people are raised by someone other than their biological parents nowadays with divorce and remarriage being so common. It just isn't that big of deal, Family is whoever shows up, not what some test says. Then the French argument of "it would tear families apart!"

Personally I think the woman having sex with another man is what is tearing the family apart.

The other arguments come down to basic biology not being "fair" and why should a woman be exposed for cheating and risk losing her meal ticket when men cheat all the time , bla bla bla. Pretty much "Men behaved badly for years and got away with it. Now its our turn. We have good thing going and don't want to give it up."

So the TL;DR is it would cost money, it doesn't matter and you are a bad person if you want to know.
 
The UK is a funny place. On hand, they'll spend decades covering up one grooming gang after another. On the other hand, they'll move heaven and earth to ensure a horrible woman never face a single consequence for her actions. Its like the entire system its geared to making society has horrible as possible.

Don't stick your dick in crazy or slutty, simple.
Yeah, that good old bit of "wisdom" sure has worked well for the past...forever.
 
Every "single father" should get a DNA test unless he was trapped on an deserted island with the mother for a year ahead of time. No exceptions.

In fact, all babies should be DNA tested to match both parents. All it takes is a mouth swab on a baby, no big deal. We live in an age of baby trafficking, mail order sperm purchasing, IVF, rampant cheating and sky-high child support payments.
I don't even trust the nurses not to fuck up tbh.
Father's deserve the same peace of mind mothers get.
 
To all those men who defend women online and keep arguing that "paternity fraud and divorce on a whim is overstated, women aren't as bad as you make them out to be, they just want a quality man and you're all just losers if you think women aren't perfect beings" I know you're there, I know you're occasionally letting those intrusive thoughts win and opening threads such as this because you know deep down your drivel is false.

Pay close attention to the article in OP. Pay close attention to how completely and utterly fucked over this guy is, how cruel and remorseless his wife has been with him, how indifferent and even adversarial to him the government and the justice system are. Look closely to how desperate and devoid of a chance for a humane outcome his life is. Because that, that is your future right there. Insidious harlots that prey on well-meaning men like this Beth monster, you are the exact demographic that they target. You are the exact kind of person who is prone to falling victim to them.

You probably think 'this is just in the UK, I'm safe'. Think again. Unless you are in Jordania, Afghanistan or some other country where women's antics are properly curtailed, you are not. It will happen to you in France, Germany, Finland, Sweden, Australia, it will happen to you in the US, it will even happen to you in Brazil and Mexico.
 
Never gonna happen. It's an issue that only affects guys so nothing will happen. It sucks but that's life for a guy.
It’s not an issue to solve with expensive dna tests for literally everyone. The backlog of tests would be unreal. It would be a nightmare. Most people don’t do crazy shit like this.

People have been registering births forever without needing a dna test anyway.
 
Ha, a suspended sentence. So she won't ever do a day in jail then. Board feminists, any thoughts?
Do this:
That is why men should never trust that the baby is yours.
I don't care if you have been high-school sweethearts Ala fucking Rockwell. Get a paternity test. It is a man's right to know if he is raising his son or daughter.
Always do this. Scream, rage, break furniture, but demand a paternity test from her as soon as she says she's pregnant, possibly even earlier. Say it before you insert your duck into her. Say it on the first date (and split the bill just in case). Put it on your profile. Eugenics ftw.
 
Always do this. Scream, rage, break furniture, but demand a paternity test from her as soon as she says she's pregnant, possibly even earlier. Say it before you insert your duck into her. Say it on the first date (and split the bill just in case). Put it on your profile. Eugenics ftw.
I get that you're a child unable to have adult conversations with people but that doesn't mean everyone else is.
It’s not an issue to solve with expensive dna tests for literally everyone. The backlog of tests would be unreal. It would be a nightmare. Most people don’t do crazy shit like this.

People have been registering births forever without needing a dna test anyway.
I fail to see how it's an issue. It's two people and reputable lab tests are about $250-$500, not really that expensive but if that's outside your price range you have the in home tests as well. It has never been easier to test for paternity, people just don't like finding out that the doctors do no harm policy leads to them lying about who the dad is to ensure the family stay together. It's not that would but rather they could. It's not even that hard a question to ask, she's an adult and can handle being asked and if not then you move on, win win.
 
I don’t think we should be dna testing everyone routinely for a government database because I don’t trust the government with that info. But I see no reason at all why if someone is claimed to be the parent of a baby and the other parent wants a test, they shouldn’t have one. Refusing to I saying they can’t trust you, either parent should be able to ask for one
With all the dodgy cases around the wrong ivf embryos being implanted, if I had an ivf baby I’d be wanting it checked too.
 
I get that you're a child unable to have adult conversations with people but that doesn't mean everyone else is.

I fail to see how it's an issue. It's two people and reputable lab tests are about $250-$500, not really that expensive but if that's outside your price range you have the in home tests as well. It has never been easier to test for paternity, people just don't like finding out that the doctors do no harm policy leads to them lying about who the dad is to ensure the family stay together. It's not that would but rather they could. It's not even that hard a question to ask, she's an adult and can handle being asked and if not then you move on, win win.
If YOU want to pester your wife about it, force a cotton swab in your infants mouth, and spend the cash, then fine.

A lot of people don’t stick their dick in crazy.

Out in the real world, shit like this is uncommon.

Having it mandated in every hospital is a waste of time & money for the vast majority of people.

Fathers should trust the mother so they can both bond with the baby before birth ideally. Instead of waiting for some DNA company to give them a green light to love their newborn.

A&N is so fucking weird sometimes. Do you guys know normal young families? Or are you imagining these scenarios from A&N articles?
 
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