💼 Careercow Dan Harmon - Creator of Community, co-creator of Rick and Morty, and barely functional alcoholic

[Alec Benson Leary]

It's amazing someone could be so proud of clicking a button to block meanie words that he names it with his own hashtag.

 

[:thinking:]

It's amazing someone could be so proud of clicking a button to block meanie words that head names it with his own hashtag.

It's just Dan blocking out the little people. You know, the Rick & Morty fanbase.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

You know, the reporting on Season 4 reminds me of a story I once heard about a player of The Division (not sure if it's real) who decided to stage a social experiment. He falsified reports about a glitch in one of the boss fights on the official subreddit and waited until sites like IGN and Gamespot had reported on it before revealing the ruse, with the intent to show how easy it is to trick the media.

Harmon's basically doing the same thing here. He's artificially creating a buzz for season 4 to try and inflate interest and drown out the people who weren't happy with season 3.

 

[One Man Bland]

Looking and comparing the Twitter feeds of Roiland and Harmon side-by-side, it's kinda amazing how night and day they are.

Roiland can be an edgy shiposter at times and I have my doubts that the show would skyrocket in quality with only him at the helm; but for the most part he isn't nearly on Twitter as often and Dan, his timeline is mostly him having positive interactions with fans, sharing fan work he stumbles across, participating in cons/streams/contests, and just doing regular stuff like talking about shows he likes or hanging out with family/friends. If he's ever gotten fanboys sending him hate, he seems to have just ignored most of it in favor of focusing on the fans who just want to make stuff and enjoy the show. He's even @'d Harmon a few times and Harmon barely seems to acknowledge him between his word vomit rants and block sprees.

Makes me wonder how Roiland ended up with such a miserable fuck like Harmon for a "friend".

 

[GhostButt]

Makes me wonder how Roiland ended up with such a miserable fuck like Harmon for a "friend".

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[Rekkington]

You know, the reporting on Season 4 reminds me of a story I once heard about a player of The Division (not sure if it's real) who decided to stage a social experiment. He falsified reports about a glitch in one of the boss fights on the official subreddit and waited until sites like IGN and Gamespot had reported on it before revealing the ruse, with the intent to show how easy it is to trick the media.

Harmon's basically doing the same thing here. He's artificially creating a buzz for season 4 to try and inflate interest and drown out the people who weren't happy with season 3.

Part of me thinks he's trying to sabotage it like he does everything else. The main reason being that Season 3 took so long due to internal problems and rumored rifts between Dan and Justin. I think they ended up getting Season 3 out against all odds and egos and problems. I honestly think they don't have enough juice for Season 4 so he's toying with it like a cat to see what happens. Of course this is based on nothing but my own speculation but deep down Dan's pretty much a child.

People who are addicted to mind altering substances are running from reality, trying to ignore their responsibilities. This is the guy whose newly married wife went on an Irish vacation all by herself while he stayed at home playing Minecraft in the dark like a hermit. To have a successful alcoholic leader is rare, but it's pretty much impossible of that leader also openly hates themselves and is emotionally unstable and thinks it's cool and interesting to treat any audience as a confessional. It's just a matter of time until he blows it up.

 

[Rihanna Ikari]

Exclusive footage of how Dan spends his time without season 4

 

[One Man Bland]

Well, looks like Roiland's piped in and it sounds like they're might be some truth to Season 4 not being greenlit yet. But as with everything else so far, huge difference in responding method compared to Harmon:

Spoiler: Meanwhile, in the Harmon Gulags

Sounds like Dan's gone full circle and is now and gone back to sweeping shit like being unfaithful/abusive to his wife and abusing/sexually harassing that writer from his other show under the rug. Wonder how that writer is feeling about Harmon's "A+ apology" now.

 

[José Mourinho]

The point of Season 3 is trying to start off with Rick pretty much having the family's dominant position (proven by Beth chose him over her husband, Jerry and they divorced), and ended with Rick losing that particular position (especially with Jerry and Beth getting back together) but even then it still needs better execution than this.

Well, looks like Roiland's piped in and it sounds like they're might be some truth to Season 4 not being greenlit yet. But as with everything else so far, huge difference in responding method compared to Harmon:
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Spoiler: Meanwhile, in the Harmon Gulags

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Sounds like Dan's gone full circle and is now and gone back to sweeping shit like being unfaithful/abusive to his wife and abusing/sexually harassing that writer from his other show under the rug. Wonder how that writer is feeling about Harmon's "A+ apology" now.

I would say he really needs to take a break from Twitter, but seeing how other lolcows are too busy sperging on Twitter, this is very unlikely and if his behavior follows, it's kinda hard to see a Season 4 even possible to be developed in this condition.

 

[One Man Bland]

The point of Season 3 is trying to start off with Rick pretty much having the family's dominant position (proven by Beth chose him over her husband, Jerry and they divorced), and ended with Rick losing that particular position (especially with Jerry and Beth getting back together) but even then it still needs better execution than this.

I think the huge problem with this set up is that seeing Rick's "downfall" (if you can even call it that) doesn't really stir any emotions in you because it doesn't even feel like he's lost anything. There's no expectation that he's expected to respect Jerry, or stop taking his grandchildren on these dangerous space adventures, or even really contribute to the household despite living there, and the only real difference seems to be on the off-chance the president stops by he has to wear a fishing hat. Hell, it doesn't even feel like a step up for the family since the entire season spent their time shitting on Jerry and reset any growth he made at the end of every episode, so it's not really clear why we're supposed to care that Jerry and Beth are together again. It's not even particularly funny since the only joke is "lol status quo" between the clunkiness of the plot that's mostly focused on going from point A to B and the utterly hamfisted delivery of just having the characters state exactly what the writers want you to get it.

While this is mostly speculation on my part, but I think a large chunk of these issues stem from how over time - whether it was because Harmon started projecting himself onto Rick more and making him more of a self-insert/mouthpiece or because of executive meddling - Rick's actions and viewpoints became a lot more... polished for a lack of a better word. His range of emotions became a lot more limited, a lot more focus went into how Rick's so much more above society despite the fact he's basically an 80 year old NEET who has to mooch of his daughter and son-in-law, and everything else seemed geared towards making Rick look "good" or at least sympathetic rather than just let him be a character. The end result in season 3 especially is that there's a lot of moments where it feels like the writers weren't willing to go all the way with any of the points they were trying to make because they were more concerned about keeping this "all according to keiku super genuis" persona in tact while ignoring all the past times Rick's proven to be utterly clueless at times.

For instance, we're likely never going to see the S1 Rick who does dumb shit like this again:

I would say he really needs to take a break from Twitter, but seeing how other lolcows are too busy sperging on Twitter, this is very unlikely and if his behavior follows, it's kinda hard to see a Season 4 even possible to be developed in this condition.

I would be surprised if Harmon doesn't get shit-canned again for being poison to most work environments in the near future; I don't think he's nearly as valuable to the show as he thinks.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

An attitude like that on Twitter and he's only been found to harass one woman so far? I call bullshit, especially after that "all-female writing team."

 

[Rekkington]

I think the huge problem with this set up is that seeing Rick's "downfall" (if you can even call it that) doesn't really stir any emotions in you because it doesn't even feel like he's lost anything. There's no expectation that he's expected to respect Jerry, or stop taking his grandchildren on these dangerous space adventures, or even really contribute to the household despite living there, and the only real difference seems to be on the off-chance the president stops by he has to wear a fishing hat. Hell, it doesn't even feel like a step up for the family since the entire season spent their time shitting on Jerry and reset any growth he made at the end of every episode, so it's not really clear why we're supposed to care that Jerry and Beth are together again. It's not even particularly funny since the only joke is "lol status quo" between the clunkiness of the plot that's mostly focused on going from point A to B and the utterly hamfisted delivery of just having the characters state exactly what the writers want you to get it.

While this is mostly speculation on my part, but I think a large chunk of these issues stem from how over time - whether it was because Harmon started projecting himself onto Rick more and making him more of a self-insert/mouthpiece or because of executive meddling - Rick's actions and viewpoints became a lot more... polished for a lack of a better word. His range of emotions became a lot more limited, a lot more focus went into how Rick's so much more above society despite the fact he's basically an 80 year old NEET who has to mooch of his daughter and son-in-law, and everything else seemed geared towards making Rick look "good" or at least sympathetic rather than just let him be a character. The end result in season 3 especially is that there's a lot of moments where it feels like the writers weren't willing to go all the way with any of the points they were trying to make because they were more concerned about keeping this "all according to keiku super genuis" persona in tact while ignoring all the past times Rick's proven to be utterly clueless at times.

For instance, we're likely never going to see the S1 Rick who does dumb shit like this again:
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I would be surprised if Harmon doesn't get shit-canned again for being poison to most work environments in the near future; I don't think he's nearly as valuable to the show as he thinks.

Rick and Morty strikes me as a show about a family written by people who don't have any real respect for the family unit or believe in the importance of family cohesion. It seems like it's just a group of individuals who bicker because they think that's normal, and all of the emotional moments are cheap and empty.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

In all seriousness though, what can actually get Dan to step down or be fired from the show? In the height of the Me Too movement he was able to basically walk off sexual assault that he himself admitted to (which still genuinely disgusts me that so many people just up and forgave him because he wrote a show they liked from the 2000s), and Justin may vouch for him if the Adult Swim executives try to give him the boot. Unless Dan's alcohol problems reach the point where he checks into rehab he'll probably be able to swindle his way into working on season 4.

 

[One Man Bland]

An attitude like that on Twitter and he's only been found to harass one woman so far? I call bullshit, especially after that "all-female writing team."

It's also probably not a good look for Dan to be making weird jokes like this when he has a history of being a total creep and he was accused of harassing a female co-worker only a few months prior:

 

[Red Hood]

It's also probably not a good look for Dan to be making weird jokes like this when he has a history of being a total creep and he was accused of harassing a female co-worker only a few months prior:
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What a creepy thing to say in public. If it's in private with people that know you're kidding- go for it. But this is the public face Dan chooses to show.

 

[Ruin]

You could probably get rid of Dan and have the show go on. Sure he voices Rick but Rick's voice isn't so unique that someone else couldn't do a reasonable approximation of it.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

You could probably get rid of Dan and have the show go on. Sure he voices Rick but Rick's voice isn't so unique that someone else couldn't do a reasonable approximation of it.

Roiland voices Rick. Harmon voices minor characters like Bird Person and Ice-T.

You could kick Harmon out and replace Bird Person with a robot voice since he's now a cyborg.

 

[Fannyscum]

You could probably get rid of Dan and have the show go on. Sure he voices Rick but Rick's voice isn't so unique that someone else couldn't do a reasonable approximation of it.

Justin Roiland does the voice for Rick. Pretty sure I read that Dan only does Bird Person?

EDIT: Rates self :late:

 

[Ruin]

Roiland voices Rick. Harmon voices minor characters like Bird Person and Ice-T.

You could kick Harmon out and replace Bird Person with a robot voice since he's now a cyborg.

Oh, then it makes even less sense to keep him around. His writing sucks and he only voices one or two minor characters? Kick his ass to the curb.

 

[One Man Bland]

It's sad that Harmon seems to have overshadowed Roiland so much to the point that people are giving Harmon credit for shit Roiland did on top of articles taking the "co" out of co-creator for the show when addressing Harmon despite it becoming increasingly more evident that a lot of Rick and Morty's charm mostly came from the work of other people.

It's like that episode in South Park when Cartman sidles in on the popularity of Jimmy's gay fish joke and keeps spinning increasingly more elaborate tales that insert himself further into the spot light until he eventually claims all the credit for himself.