Skitzocow David Anthony Stebbins / Acerthorn / stebbinsd / fayettevillesdavid - Litigious autist, obese livestreamer, elder abuser, violent schizo, ladyboy importer, hot dog enjoyer, wereturkey.

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How much will David sue the farms for?

  • $0/no suit

    Votes: 118 5.3%
  • Hundreds

    Votes: 17 0.8%
  • Thousands

    Votes: 45 2.0%
  • Millions

    Votes: 184 8.2%
  • Billions

    Votes: 136 6.1%
  • Trillions

    Votes: 483 21.6%
  • A steamy night with Null in a lace negligee

    Votes: 1,257 56.1%

  • Total voters
    2,240
Hicks v. Feiock USSC 1988:
(This part is about a state criminal contempt charge)
Thus, if the relief provided is a sentence of imprisonment, it is remedial if the defendant stands committed unless and until he performs the affirmative act required by the court's order, and is punitive if the sentence is limited to unconditional imprisonment for a definite period. If the relief provided is a fine, it is remedial when it is paid to the complainant, and punitive when it is paid to the court, though a fine that is payable to the court is also remedial when the defendant can avoid paying the fine simply by performing the act required by the court's order.
If applied in a civil proceeding, however, this particular statute would be constitutionally valid.
There were strong indications that the proceeding was intended to be criminal in nature, such as the notice sent to respondent, which labeled the proceeding as "criminal in nature," and the District Attorney's participation in the case. However, if the trial court imposed only civil coercive remedies, it would be improper to invalidate that result merely because the Due Process Clause was not satisfied. The relief afforded -- respondent's jail sentence, its suspension, and his fixed term of probation -- would be criminal in nature if that were all. However, the trial court did not specify whether payment of the arrearages (which, if timely made, would be completed before expiration of the probation period) would have purged respondent's determinate sentence, thus making the relief civil in nature. Since the state appellate court, because of its erroneous views as to these controlling principles of federal law, did not pass on this issue, it must be determined by that court on remand for its further consideration of § 1209.5. Pp. 485 U. S. 637-641.

Hicks v. Feiock (https://archive.is/VxRgC)

Sounds like the person was charged with contempt in state court and overturned in the appellate court. You're in federal court now. Supreme court kicks it back to state court to find out if the fines were criminal or civil in nature. Cant find the later ruling.

Ward v Smith 8th 2013:
In civil cases, there is no constitutional or statutory right to appointed counsel. Edgington v. Mo. Dep't of Corr., 52 F.3d 777, 780 (8th Cir.1995). Rather, a court “may request an attorney to represent any person unable to afford counsel.” 28 U.S.C. § 1915(e)(1). ..... We review the denial of a motion for appointment of counsel for an abuse of discretion, according the district court “a good deal of discretion to determine whether representation is warranted given the nature of the case and the litigants.” Chambers v. Pennycook, 641 F.3d 898, 909 (8th Cir.2011).
In most circuits, an order denying a motion for appointment of counsel in a § 1983 action is not immediately appealable, because there is no final decision of the district court.
The district court did not abuse its considerable discretion in denying Ward's motion.
The order of the district court is affirmed.

WARD v. SMITH (archive)


Stabby is pulling his right to appeal before answering from a ruling from the 8th circuit. A ruling which upheld the denied counsel.
Only thing I can find in the 9th on appointment of counsel is about employment discrimination and civil rights.

Neither of his citations help him. Truly an exceptional lawyer.
 
Neither of his citations help him. Truly an exceptional lawyer.
Well, if those don’t work you know what he’s gotta do. File, file again!

Court is a big video game, you just try different strats till you defeat the boss and get your loot. Sometimes you get vexatious debuffs but if you go to other parts of the map you can start filing again like nothing happened.
 
Neither of his citations help him. Truly an exceptional lawyer.
Well, the same exceptional lawyering that somehow took an $1800 win, tried to lie his way into an extra $4.12 per month, and talked himself into a show-cause order.

I'm honestly surprised he has the bare minimum of insight to realize that at least in this small microcosm of his nonsense, he's out of his depth and needs a real lawyer. I'm also kind of amused at the gall to have so thoroughly wasted the Court's time (when the Court strongly encouraged settlement presumably to avoid that) and now demand a court-appointed attorney to defend his bad-faith filings.
 
You can avoid the fine simply by performing the affirmative act required by the court's order. Provide a reasonable explanation for why you were fucking around.
Ah, see that's where you've gone wrong. That's the sane take of someone capable of understanding the structure, context, and content of sentences. Stuff we all learned as kids.
Stabby doesn't do that. He gobbles hot dogs and fantasizes about being something other than the owner of a piss-stained yellow pillow.

He's truly the litigious version of that dickhead who cites shit he hasn't read, thinks it all sounds cool, and then gets mad when people actually check the source and call bullshit.

Well, if those don’t work you know what he’s gotta do. File, file again!
File high!
Settle low!
Return the majority to the court through a fine! (Oops!)
Repeat until you are rich!
 
What’re the chances that he gets fined $1500 AND the judge throws out the agreement? If this is clearly a miscarriage of justice and a prime example of somebody using the justice system as a cudgel, what’s keeping the judge from dismissing his case with prejudice and nullifying the agreement?
I'm no legalfag, but my gut feeling is that since the settlement occurred outside the bounds of the court there's not really much the judge can do about it unless Zell makes the case that some impropriety occurred that needs addressing (outside of Stabby being his unpleasant self; illegal conduct needs to have occurred). Depending on how himself Stabby feels like being, fines and getting the case dismissed are on the table along with potentially another recognition of officially being an asshole in the eyes of the court (vexlit). We have to wait and see how it plays out.
The Court clearly has jurisdiction over the settlement because Stabby is demanding the court to enforce the settlement.

I can't imagine the Court finding that Stabby has materially breached the contract resulting in its cancellation. But this is novel ground, because usually the party getting paid doesn't throw this much of a shitfit over being paid. I suppose the Judge could find that Stabby's statements regarding Paypal are a fraudulent misrepresentation that should result in rescinding the contract.

Honestly, this is too insane to predict.
 
The Court clearly has jurisdiction over the settlement because Stabby is demanding the court to enforce the settlement.

I can't imagine the Court finding that Stabby has materially breached the contract resulting in its cancellation. But this is novel ground, because usually the party getting paid doesn't throw this much of a shitfit over being paid. I suppose the Judge could find that Stabby's statements regarding Paypal are a fraudulent misrepresentation that should result in rescinding the contract.

Honestly, this is too insane to predict.
I wonder,
is the idea with the sanction not just to punish david ( since he actually has to pay like 100-200$ that he might now have right now anymore ) and to end the settlement nonsense without letting Zellander of the hook and by that being still "neutral" ?
The 1500$ seesm pretty specific, and maybe even a bit high,
This way it cant be appealed for letting zellander of the hook and its a sanction. I would think it might be hard to appeal this too if not even impossible because of the nature of this.

It seems like a "neutral" way to resolve this without giving one side just a way out of not paying or canceling the settlement.
 
I think that the chances of the court unilaterally canceling the settlement, without any party even asking them to do so, seems pretty far fetched at this time, even with Gobblins being a gigantic piece of shit.

It's looking like the magistrate wants to fine Stabby the remaining amount and be done with his shit.

Note this does not absolve Zell as he will still have to fork over the cash to Mr Stabby but then in turn Stabby will have to just turn around and hand it back to the court.

Really to me this is a win win win

Zell get taught to not pozload my negholep and hopefully comes away a wiser man for the measly price of 1800 bucks..trust me Jones that a hellva cheap price for what could have been.

Stabby rages for days when his only victory is turn in a Pyrrhic one as once again he fucks himself over with his greed and general a around asshole'ish nature

The Magistrate wins because she won't have to ever deal with Stabby again and gets to legally slap down a royal pain the ass vex lit.

all in all this has been a really fun time, 8/10 would watch again.
 
It's looking like the magistrate wants to fine Stabby the remaining amount and be done with his shit.

Note this does not absolve Zell as he will still have to fork over the cash to Mr Stabby but then in turn Stabby will have to just turn around and hand it back to the court.

Really to me this is a win win win

Zell get taught to not pozload my negholep and hopefully comes away a wiser man for the measly price of 1800 bucks..trust me Jones that a hellva cheap price for what could have been.

Stabby rages for days when his only victory is turn in a Pyrrhic one as once again he fucks himself over with his greed and general a around asshole'ish nature

The Magistrate wins because she won't have to ever deal with Stabby again and gets to legally slap down a royal pain the ass vex lit.

all in all this has been a really fun time, 8/10 would watch again.
Kind of naive of you think that even if ordered, stabby would just hand over his precious $1500 to the unclean handed court.

To add to your theoretical scenario, I could just imagine that Stabby would be dumb enough to refuse to pay and end up in contempt of court.
 
Kind of naive of you think that even if ordered, stabby would just hand over his precious $1500 to the unclean handed court.

To add to your theoretical scenario, I could just imagine that Stabby would be dumb enough to refuse to pay and end up in contempt of court.

oh please I wish this would happen so very very much.

But Stabby's been to jail before and he did not have a good time there (shock right?) so I'd guess in the face of a contempt charge Stabby will bend the knee and pay like a good little turkey.

Remember even if he does cops a contempt charge and goes to jail on it he still doesn't get to keep the money. He'd still have to pay it out once he was out or he'd just be sent back in.
 
oh please I wish this would happen so very very much.

But Stabby's been to jail before and he did not have a good time there (shock right?) so I'd guess in the face of a contempt charge Stabby will bend the knee and pay like a good little turkey.

Remember even if he does cops a contempt charge and goes to jail on it he still doesn't get to keep the money. He'd still have to pay it out once he was out or he'd just be sent back in.
Stabby comes off to me as someone that cannot take in information he doesn't like and then modify his own behavior.

But we can only wait and see.
 
not super related to stabby but it seems that one of the people he sued, @SidAlpha is now TTD pilled for a pretty horrifying reason.
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not super related to stabby but it seems that one of the people he sued, @SidAlpha is now TTD pilled for a pretty horrifying reason.
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Holy shit. That's horrifying and yet, that shit that never happens has happened again. Fuck. This is the wrong thread for the rest of the rant but this shit has gotta fucking stop.
 
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