Yeah, it's pretty stupid. People sperging out over Snyder, yet they turn around a like the 2009 Watchmen movie. That's pretty hypocritical.
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Yeah, making a movie of Watchmen was fucktarded from the getgo (it's like making a ballet out of Citizen Kane or turning Ulysses into a cartoon, like, why??). But, credit where credit is due, Snyder was at least trying something kinda interesting with his superverse, ie, taking the notion of "Superheroes as modern mythology" and taking it seriously and doing something grand and epic with it. Even if he is too dullheaded and literalminded to do anything with it other than LOOK BIG SUPERGODS PUNCH THINGS IT'S JUST LIKE THE GREEKS AND THE ROMANS, but it's something, unlike Marvel, whose every movie is just Current Year with shit CGI and cape quips. Also, I may be in the minority, but his casting was fucking aces (Cavill, Affleck, and Gadot, and even folks like J.K. Simmons, Amy Adams, Diane Lane, Kevin Costner, like, his casting was fucking great), I just wish he'd given them something to do other than stand around open mouthed muttering edgelord monosyllables in front of green screens.
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still better than Batman V Superman
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God no, Gadot is fucking horrible as Wonder Woman. She would easily be the worst part of the Justice League line-up if Ezra Miller's Flash didn't exist.
As for why WB hates Snyder so much, it's probably because he fucked up all their plans for an MCU-style shared universe. Granted, WB also mismanaged the hell out of it but Snyder clearly had ideas for a grand LOTR-style story starting from Man of Steel and all the way into Justice League and didn't much care for WB trying to start a big franchise.
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I figured he meant James Joyce
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You know, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks she's just okay, people seem to either love her or hate her. When I was still a comics collector, I was a Wonder Woman fan (I actually owned a Sensation 1 at one point, and had a decent chunk of the rare Golden Age issues), and I think Godot's awesome. But everyone seems to either think she's fantastic or wants to wipe their memories clear of ever even laying eyes on her, it's so weird. Meh, whaddaya gonna do. Then again, I also know people who hate Battfleck, and I think he's great, I just wish he'd been in a Battfleck movie directed by Battfleck, like I was promised, that would be tits.
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She does look the part and when she's not talking she sometimes embodies the spirit of Wonder Woman, but that's all I'll give her.
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Personally I'd like to see a Project Cadmus-related villain or maybe something like the Justice Lords (Though I have no clue how you'd go about introducing the Lords, but it would give an excuse to shoehorn in a ham fisted Trump allegory with President Luthor in service to "muh message")
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It'll never not be funny to me that a 70 y/o woman mogs her.
Hell, even Adrianne Palicki version from the 2011 cancelled Wonder Woman show looks better, & she was gonna wear pants once, later she wasn't. She's somewhat cute looking for an Amazonian, but I can't think of it as a problem.
I can't post the pantsless gif due to the site being broken.
What's somewhat sad is that she's not even going to be Wonder Woman at first. Antje Traue was going to be Wonder Woman, & Gal was going to be Faora-Ul. However, Gal got pregnant at the time of Man of Steel & the roles got changed.
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I’ve always thought that a Luthor movie in the vein of American Psycho as an adaption of “Luthor: Man of Steel” would be amazing.
Joker was a spiritual successor to Taxi Driver, it only make sense that his Superman counterpart receive a similar film
To put it in perspective, the story is from his POV and details his latest scheme to fuck with Superman, making a Halle Berry-lookalike robot/android who becomes a superhero in her own right and falls in love with Lex……….. he named her Hope.
Bruce Wayne is also there, though he’s more of Lex’s “Paul Allen” if you catch my drift.
The Joker movie was based on a miniseries by this same writer.
Joker was a spiritual successor to Taxi Driver, it only make sense that his Superman counterpart receive a similar film
To put it in perspective, the story is from his POV and details his latest scheme to fuck with Superman, making a Halle Berry-lookalike robot/android who becomes a superhero in her own right and falls in love with Lex……….. he named her Hope.
Bruce Wayne is also there, though he’s more of Lex’s “Paul Allen” if you catch my drift.
The Joker movie was based on a miniseries by this same writer.
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I like how WB tried to retcon the Snyderverse lut of existence, but instead WB got retconned out of existence. Vengeful hand of the almighty at work. All those crucifixion poses in MoS weren't just for show.
I think they should give it a rest and do something where Superman is the good guy. If I want to see a character who struggles every day with the temptation to murder people, I'll check a mirror.
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Honestly WB’s hatred of Snyder is pathetic. Like I made it no secret I really dislike Snyder’s way of handling Superhero movies.
However WB have no one to blame but themselves for having Zack take charge of their cinematic universe and their desperate attempt to catch up with Marvel. Zack certainly is an issue with the DC cinematic universe but WB is more to blame than anything.
However WB have no one to blame but themselves for having Zack take charge of their cinematic universe and their desperate attempt to catch up with Marvel. Zack certainly is an issue with the DC cinematic universe but WB is more to blame than anything.
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This, Snyder is a pretentious fucking retard, but he’s the retard they chose, enabled and funded after numerous instances of his work bringing in middling-low returns.
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I believe the goal was to have Nolan direct the movies while Zack does visuals, but then Nolan left.
Clearly this universe went through development hell as they announced Batman V Superman like 3 years before it came out, and there was a three year gap between Man of Steel and other DCEU films. I cannot even begin to fathom what the goal was going into the cinematic universe as I posted earlier, nothing makes sense.
Technically Green Lantern was the starting point initially, but it would have bumped heads with Nolan’s universe the next year if GL was a success. If Man of Steel was in production around this time, the tonal shift of the universe would have made even less sense between GL and Superman. Also, how much influence did Zack have over things like Suicide Squad, as I know Wonder Woman had some input from him, but how does Box Office Suicide Squad fit into the bigger picture? WB just seemed to be throwing whatever at the wall in terms of films which is a blessing and curse. In the past and present, this lead to some unique DC pictures, but when making a universe, this was dysfunctional.
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From my understanding, there was a plan to start the DCEU with a Justice League movie previous to even Man of Steel. The logic was sound, while Marvel at the time didn't have the rights to most of their A listers (Spider-Man, X-Men, F4) and had to build up the characters most normies wouldn't know dick about except for the Hulk and maybe Captain America, Warner had all of their characters under one banner, and these characters are so ingrained into pop culture that you don't really need to build them up to a normie audience.
What ended up preventing this plan from going forward was that Nolan was still finishing his Dark Knight trilogy and didn't want to have confusions between his Bale Batman and the Batman they were going to have for Justice League, so they instead went with Snyder and Man of Steel to do a copy of Marvel. The rest is history.
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Their biggest hit by a country mile was Joker. Smart people would see that and figure out the formula that would work for them going forward, which is giving a proven, reliable filmmaker a modest budget (below $100m) and relatively free reign to deliver a movie based on a DC property without having to worry about Muh Cinematic Ooniverse. At a budget that low, it will go into profit almost without fail just from DVD and BluRay sales to mancave nerds, and if it does really well, it'll become another license to print money. Then leave the worldbuilding shit to streaming, where you can shoot shit for cheap and no one will care because streaming.
But entertainment industry execs are morons, so.
But entertainment industry execs are morons, so.
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Evil Justice League/evil Superman has been done so much at this point that I'd like to see DC go at least 3 decades without resorting to that and the killing Superman trope again. Like 90% of stories coming from those two plotlines have sucked fat donkey dick. I'd argue that it's even 100%.
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Zaslav is becoming more based per action.
Basically, after Batgirl & Supergirl, he just cancelled the Static Shock, Green Lantern Corps, & a Superman film by Ta-Nehisi Coates & J.J. Abrams. It's possible that he may be restarting DCEU from the scratch, by pretty much everything from before, maybe even the Flash film is on the chopping block.
One more thing mentioned in the article is from The Hollywood Reporter, which says:
In fact, now that I think about it, Zaslav is doing a real life, Crisis on Infinite IPs. Crisis on Infinite Earths was, in it's initial inception, an event to turn shitty writing into good writing by the combination of epic spectacle & "plot-justified" retcon. It exists as an ultimate irony. An event literally of strong unified direction designed both to sweep the previous lack of direction under the rug while simultaneously refusing to fix the ultimate problem at the roots of DC & why it had a complete lack of direction. In the end, it not only failed to fix the problem, nor did it successfully divorce the comics from their past, but it also became a template DC would go on to use as a crutch, believing that these resets had no cost among the fanbase & only served to reinvigorate the franchise. It's no wonder they're doing it again. Also, MCU did this too with No Way Homo, with Dr. Strange having a forget-it-all spell.
Basically, after Batgirl & Supergirl, he just cancelled the Static Shock, Green Lantern Corps, & a Superman film by Ta-Nehisi Coates & J.J. Abrams. It's possible that he may be restarting DCEU from the scratch, by pretty much everything from before, maybe even the Flash film is on the chopping block.
One more thing mentioned in the article is from The Hollywood Reporter, which says:
Are these motherfuckers insane? They've barely limped their cinematic universe past origin stories, & just nearly started a multiverse & later cancelled them all, & they wanna do Crisis? Crisis is something you think about adapting 20 years, 6 phases, & about 3 tiers of cosmic beings (Darkseid was too early in ZSJL due to WB's fuckery, Nekron requires an arc, Neron isn't there at all, The Batman who Laughs isn't there even as a reference) into your storyline. Crisis should be the capstone to your universe, the ultimate teamup against the ultimate threat, the endgame, WB haven't earned the right to even LOOK in the Anti-Monitor's direction yet. Hell, even CW established some things in there garbage before going there. Crisis shouldn't even be used this way to begin with, it should be like Endgame, like all your actors aging out to the point CGI can't fix them & everything HAS to be reset.
In fact, now that I think about it, Zaslav is doing a real life, Crisis on Infinite IPs. Crisis on Infinite Earths was, in it's initial inception, an event to turn shitty writing into good writing by the combination of epic spectacle & "plot-justified" retcon. It exists as an ultimate irony. An event literally of strong unified direction designed both to sweep the previous lack of direction under the rug while simultaneously refusing to fix the ultimate problem at the roots of DC & why it had a complete lack of direction. In the end, it not only failed to fix the problem, nor did it successfully divorce the comics from their past, but it also became a template DC would go on to use as a crutch, believing that these resets had no cost among the fanbase & only served to reinvigorate the franchise. It's no wonder they're doing it again. Also, MCU did this too with No Way Homo, with Dr. Strange having a forget-it-all spell.
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