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The Virgin Gunn Superman: “LOIS THEY CALLED ME A FAGGOT!”
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The Chad Triangle-era Superman: “Yes, it was absolutely necessary for me to use the bathtub to grow Kryptonian fauna. What? No, there were no showers on Krypton.”

He’s fun, that’s why nothing but the first Reeve movie got it right, he can be any theme but it better be fun. Fucking love this page, bro had a neet-phase.
 
The Virgin Gunn Superman: “LOIS THEY CALLED ME A FAGGOT!”
It really is not stated often enough just how bad the dialogue in James Gunn's Superman is. Dialogue is often what young writers are interested in doing well in, can be easily checked by reading it aloud, which Gunn did multiple times in the editing process. It's not fair to compare Gunn to Hemingway, but Hills like White Elephants is a general guide to how dialogue is supposed to be written. When Gunn does the opposite of that, it makes characters sound like they're rationalizing their own behaviors, so Supes sounds like he doesn't believe it himself when he says he's a human being.
 
It really is not stated often enough just how bad the dialogue in James Gunn's Superman is. Dialogue is often what young writers are interested in doing well in, can be easily checked by reading it aloud, which Gunn did multiple times in the editing process. It's not fair to compare Gunn to Hemingway, but Hills like White Elephants is a general guide to how dialogue is supposed to be written. When Gunn does the opposite of that, it makes characters sound like they're rationalizing their own behaviors, so Supes sounds like he doesn't believe it himself when he says he's a human being.
Genuinely still have not watched it and will not. A crying Superman is not something I’ll waste my time on.

I know it’s loaded with hotties, which is a rarity nowadays but he made Engineer ugly as sin, so that immediately undoes the W.
 
He’s fun, that’s why nothing but the first Reeve movie got it right, he can be any theme but it better be fun. Fucking love this page, bro had a neet-phase.
One thing I like about the first Reeve movie, is Clark/Superman is actually visually albeit subtly enjoying doing the whole secret identity schtick on Lois and everyone else.
 
One thing I like about the first Reeve movie, is Clark/Superman is actually visually albeit subtly enjoying doing the whole secret identity schtick on Lois and everyone else.
The 2025 movie had an interesting idea where Lois already knows Clark's secret and they hide their relationship in public, but it was only for like, a single scene before they started arguing over Twitter calling Superman "Supershit".
 
The 2025 movie had an interesting idea where Lois already knows Clark's secret and they hide their relationship in public, but it was only for like, a single scene before they started arguing over Twitter calling Superman "Supershit".
I still can't believe Superman being a little bitch because people are calling him names online is a real scene.
 
One thing I like about the first Reeve movie, is Clark/Superman is actually visually albeit subtly enjoying doing the whole secret identity schtick on Lois and everyone else.
I love macho Clark/Superman. They’ve really scooped that element out of big blue. Before the modern misery porn, he was funny in how he’d like “the game” with Lois, like having pussy dumbbells in his apartment and getting a kick out of Lois calling it weak and doing a set right there, as the goofy fuck goes and laser-shaves while winking at the reader.
I still can't believe Superman being a little bitch because people are calling him names online is a real scene.
Even actual cuck Nu52 Superman didn’t get fucked up over being called a piece of shit. That’s how low Gunnman is, below the the worst Superman incarnation.
Should of just hammer down some shots and find someone or something being a nuisance and tenderize it like a real man.
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The grey creeping in and the stubble, that’s the icing on the cake. This how Earth-2 Superman would’ve actually acted if he got beamed from the 60s to modern DC.
 
One thing I like about the first Reeve movie, is Clark/Superman is actually visually albeit subtly enjoying doing the whole secret identity schtick on Lois and everyone else.
It does show that Superman in those movies has a sense of humor and how understated it can be. It also shows a bit of conflict when he agonizes over telling Lois who he really is.
I still can't believe Superman being a little bitch because people are calling him names online is a real scene.
Superman would just laugh at being called Supershit and then follow it up with "not that I am condoning the casual profanity." Everyone forgets that Superman is confident, he knows he's capable, confident and above all he can take everyone who comes at him. With a little bit of effort he can usually control the situation.

I think that's what really gets me about James Gunn's Superman. The dude can bench press a building, there is a type of confidence and self assuredness that comes from that level of strength. Along with a strong moral foundation and a sense of right and wrong. People generally shouldn't shit talk him to his face, either because they know what he can do. Or they have a grudging(at the minimum)respect for him.

Having him come across as kind of a bitch, and everyone treats him like a loser diminishes the character, and it diminishes the villians. Lex is less imposing when facing down Superman, because everyone faces down Superman.
 
God y’know this thread really opened my eyes. I went into the film with super low expectations, so I guess I latched onto anything good.

my personal pros/positive opinions:
Cool flying scenes
Lex was at least a little more accurate than Snyder lex
The fight sequences had some creative moments
The women were hot as fuck
Supes wasn’t quite so edgey
The dad and Superman talk scene was nice

But looking back on it, Superman really did seem more like a pre-puebescent boy than an adult man. Especially when he had an actual tantrum in front of Lois Lane in the apartment. Or when he starts screaming like a chimp at Luthor.

I mean, I’ve read plenty of comics, seen older media on him. He’s ALWAYS portrayed as a good natured Boy Scout esque figure with an overall confident yet firm demeanor. A state all men should aim to achieve. A true leader that can feel his hardships and sorrows without pouring it out to the world at any given opportunity and making it their problem.

If supes had been more stoic, and less loud when the serious talks started, I’d have much less issue with the film.
 
God y’know this thread really opened my eyes. I went into the film with super low expectations, so I guess I latched onto anything good.

my personal pros/positive opinions:
Cool flying scenes
Lex was at least a little more accurate than Snyder lex
The fight sequences had some creative moments
The women were hot as fuck
Supes wasn’t quite so edgey
The dad and Superman talk scene was nice

But looking back on it, Superman really did seem more like a pre-puebescent boy than an adult man. Especially when he had an actual tantrum in front of Lois Lane in the apartment. Or when he starts screaming like a chimp at Luthor.

I mean, I’ve read plenty of comics, seen older media on him. He’s ALWAYS portrayed as a good natured Boy Scout esque figure with an overall confident yet firm demeanor. A state all men should aim to achieve. A true leader that can feel his hardships and sorrows without pouring it out to the world at any given opportunity and making it their problem.

If supes had been more stoic, and less loud when the serious talks started, I’d have much less issue with the film.
“So you’re not a Boy Scout after all.”

“Never made it past my first merit badge.”
-Flash and Superman’s best exchange.

Superman is a different character depending on the era, but for the longest time, he was tough but fair, stubborn but kind, macho without being arrogant. It’s part of the charm, where the brooding edgelord in not-Detroit is technically more of a Boy Scout (when written correctly and not by subversives) than the guy who gets called a Boy Scout on the regular.

Because main Superman, when written correctly (and not by Waid, Morrison, Bendis, Chuck Austen, Aaron or any other slob who helped undo the glory of Rebirth) is a fairly well-adjusted guy, he’s flawed but he’s also the guy whose go-to response to any hardship is to chuckle, raise the fists and go “Bring it.”

It’s what these commie-fucks hate, that Superman at his core is from the time where men walked to the fight and were willing to crack skulls if someone was being a bastard. The Superman I like (Post-Crisis) would’ve just trolled the trolls back and been the cockiest motherfucker while doing so.

The world’s always gonna piss on his message, so what? He does what he does for the guy just trying to go to work and make a living, the real people. That’s where Gunn’s self-insert fails, the people who spit on him and got him fired were justified and in a better world, he’d be penniless and locked away next to his faggot friend, forever.
 
I still can't believe Superman being a little bitch because people are calling him names online is a real scene.
Superman being emotionally vulnerable is better expressed when he defends his actions in Boravia by saying, "PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DIE!", not whining about a nickname a middle-schooler would call stupid.

You have to wonder how this version of the character would act when Gunn adapts stuff like "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?" or the Cadmus Arc from Justice League Unlimited.
Superman would just laugh at being called Supershit and then follow it up with "not that I am condoning the casual profanity." Everyone forgets that Superman is confident, he knows he's capable, confident and above all he can take everyone who comes at him. With a little bit of effort he can usually control the situation.
Reminds me of how they portrayed Aquaman in one of the Batman cartoons, a hot-blooded hero who doesn't let jokes get to his head.
I think that's what really gets me about James Gunn's Superman. The dude can bench press a building, there is a type of confidence and self assuredness that comes from that level of strength. Along with a strong moral foundation and a sense of right and wrong. People generally shouldn't shit talk him to his face, either because they know what he can do. Or they have a grudging(at the minimum)respect for him.

Having him come across as kind of a bitch, and everyone treats him like a loser diminishes the character, and it diminishes the villians. Lex is less imposing when facing down Superman, because everyone faces down Superman.
While I'm guessing the intent is to show a more inexperienced Superman, it's the exact same problem I had with Man of Steel and even The Batman, making something that was always an established aspect of the character's personality, removing it, and making an entire arc about them learning what they should already know.
 
This how Earth-2 Superman would’ve actually acted if he got beamed from the 60s to modern DC.
That's not actually that far from how he reacted when he was beamed into mid 2000s DC to be fair. Only for 2000s Superman to go "Well yeah but a perfect world wouldn't need superheroes would it? :))))" and Earth-2 Superman suddenly decided that all of the awful awful things that DC started to do post-crisis (Rape, Rampant Murder, Heroes viscerally killing villains, killing a Robin) were actually just sort of fine, and that it was really Superboy Prime and Alexander Luthor Junior that were the REAL bad guys for trying to make an actual perfect world.
Man Infinite Crisis was fucking stupid.
Then DC would go on to have Superboy Prime murder Earth-2 Superman and then later on DC literally resurrected him as a zombie for a bit during Blackest Night. Yeah! Yeah! Spit on his grave!
You don't hate comicbooks enough.

As for the dogshit movie.
When I saw Superman chimping out at Luthor like he was being presented as the Soyjak while Luthor portrayed himself as the gigachad, I couldn't help but think of this MUCH better scene from the comics for how Superman is SUPPOSED to act when Luthor manages to piss him off.
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None of this "WHERE IS DOG AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!?" shit. Like nigger use your x-ray vision, superspeed and superhearing. Fuck me.

Luthor should never just be acting openly "fuck you" confident in front of Superman like he was in that scene unless he's got a stick of kryptonite in his pocket irradiating his ballsack and giving him cancer again.
 
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Luthor should never just be acting openly "fuck you" confident in front of Superman like he was in that scene unless he's got a stick of kryptonite in his pocket irradiating his ballsack and giving him cancer again.
Nah, Luthor should always be confident even as he spits on a literal God without protection. It is one of the best aspects of his character, the sheer self-importance even in a room of people who can kill him in 5 seconds.
The best meeting is still this. Both come off reasonable and confident, barring Lex throwing the model as an understandable break in character.
 
Lex being suicidally overconfident is him at his best, because he backs it up and it’s bait, he wants Supes to chimp out and Supes knows not giving a reaction will make Lex tard out. It’s literally two literal examples of the “perfect man” fucking with each other, Chad vs Chad-style.
That's not actually that far from how he reacted when he was beamed into mid 2000s DC to be fair. Only for 2000s Superman to go "Well yeah but a perfect world wouldn't need superheroes would it? :))))" and Earth-2 Superman suddenly decided that all of the awful awful things that DC started to do post-crisis (Rape, Rampant Murder, Heroes viscerally killing villains, killing a Robin) were actually just sort of fine, and that it was really Superboy Prime and Alexander Luthor Junior that were the REAL bad guys for trying to make an actual perfect world.
Man Infinite Crisis was fucking stupid.
Then DC would go on to have Superboy Prime murder Earth-2 Superman and then later on DC literally resurrected him as a zombie for a bit during Blackest Night. Yeah! Yeah! Spit on his grave!
You don't hate comicbooks enough.

As for the dogshit movie.
When I saw Superman chimping out at Luthor like he was being presented as the Soyjak while Luthor portrayed himself as the gigachad, I couldn't help but think of this MUCH better scene from the comics for how Superman is SUPPOSED to act when Luthor manages to piss him off.
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None of this "WHERE IS DOG AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!?" shit. Like nigger use your x-ray vision, superspeed and superhearing. Fuck me.

Luthor should never just be acting openly "fuck you" confident in front of Superman like he was in that scene unless he's got a stick of kryptonite in his pocket irradiating his ballsack and giving him cancer again.
The disrespect to the Golden Age Superman is always astounding, especially with how based old Kal was. Dude was beating the shit out of bankers, landlords and arms dealers. Could you imagine that nowadays? He was right to beat main Clark like a bitch.

Still, his death was fine, perfectly in-character for the old brawler to put himself in-between a downed fighter and a foe that was beyond him. Prime going all Drago on Kal’s Apollo Creed sucked but the old man getting out of his misery was better than if the character was still kicking,

Imagine if Kal-L wasn’t dead. “Why yes, I love that my daughter is getting her jungle-loving on with my sub-Saharan replacement. ‘Truth, Justice and a Better Tomorrow.’”
 
Nah, Luthor should always be confident even as he spits on a literal God without protection. It is one of the best aspects of his character, the sheer self-importance even in a room of people who can kill him in 5 seconds.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PTfiXcN7-NYThe best meeting is still this. Both come off reasonable and confident, barring Lex throwing the model as an understandable break in character.
Sure but Movie Lex isn't that at all. He just sort of comes off as retarded most of the time, and then he basically goes I AM SUPER INSECURE THAT YOU EXIST GRRRRR out loud at Superman, hardly the gigachad peak of humanity specimen that he ought to be.
Also, the thing with Lex and Superman is that you sort of need to set up a reason for the two to be at odds, you can't just skip over it, Lex needs a reason beyond I HATE THAT YOU HAVE POWERS to be upset.
And most of the time when Superman and Lex interact and Lex is being stoic like that is because Superman isn't fucking flipping his shit. Gunn portraying Superman as a little bitch weakling because he doesn't like the idea of Superman being overpowered is fucking retarded and missing the point. Seriously why is it so hard to get Superman right? All you need to do is get a few fucking comics from before crisis and write something based off of that. No neck snapping, no crying about being a little bitch, just Superman dealing with the sinister if outlandish schemes of his enemies.

Compare Lextard from Nuperman vs Lex from the first Reeve movie.
Lextard: I hate Superman for some reason, so I have devised a retarded plan to kill him by orchestrating Israel genociding Palestine. Also I have a portal that will end reality for some reason lol.
Chad Lex: I am going to destroy California in order to increase the value of my property, oh and fuck that Superman asshole too, I'll have to stop him from fucking up my plan.

I hate when hack frauds writers think that Lex Luthor is Joker level obsessed with Superman rather than just having them be opposed as opposite ends of morality so they clash. You can't just have a character's motivation be "I hate you because you exist", that's fucking stupid when other metahumans exist.
 
Superman should be someone I aspire to be.
If I can take online criticism better than him, he loses his purpose.

The Superman in Gunn's universe would have a very active thread on KF and the fucker is so petty that he would read it and seethe about it.
 
When I saw Superman chimping out at Luthor like he was being presented as the Soyjak while Luthor portrayed himself as the gigachad, I couldn't help but think of this MUCH better scene from the comics for how Superman is SUPPOSED to act when Luthor manages to piss him off.
open the window luthor.jpeg
None of this "WHERE IS DOG AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!?" shit. Like nigger use your x-ray vision, superspeed and superhearing. Fuck me.
It honestly comes off like something you'd see Homelander do, not Superman.
The Superman in Gunn's universe would have a very active thread on KF and the fucker is so petty that he would read it and seethe about it.
And the people here would have much better insults than "Supershit".
 
Superman should be someone I aspire to be.
If I can take online criticism better than him, he loses his purpose.

The Superman in Gunn's universe would have a very active thread on KF and the fucker is so petty that he would read it and seethe about it.
It would be pretty funny to a-log a superhero, could you imagine da sektur culture in the DC universe?

See, normal Superman is an apex troll, legendary gaslighter and does what Sam Hyde did to Idubbz on a daily basis, to his love-interest, little brother figure and co-workers.
“Lois what have you done?”

“My secret is I’m actually Superman and I’m using that cut you out of the byline.”

“Oh that one, yeah ‘Superman saves Clark Kent?’ That was Batman.”
 
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