Dead by Daylight and other Asymmetric Slasher Games - Discuss the games and the autistic/entitled communities around them

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Sumo Nottingham steps down as developer for Texas Chainsaw Massacre, game to be handed to a new development team. If history serves, this was when F13 was sunset'd. So presumably they'll sign on a skeleton crew to keep the lights on until the playercount hits 0.

In any case, the timing couldn't be much worse. The metagame at it's most unfun and unhealthiest where objective victims are super frail and tanks are literally invincible, three out of six playable family members are kinda fun to play but with severe issues, it looks like hype's gonna be really hard to drum up on a sentenced game. There's a free to play trial on Xbox. TCM's entering it's final stage.

To the surprise of absolutely no one, it swung for the king and missed. To the surprise of some, the whimper came much earlier than anticipated. Didn't even make it a full year.

At this point, the only question is whether the new Victim to be released in a couple months or the new Family member will be the big moneymaking busted piece of shit. To be fair to Gun Media, they are pretty consistent with their decisions. Always prioritize sales, to the detriment of everything else. I figure they'll run out of good will sooner rather than later. Maybe they'll just rebrand.
 
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Legion's chapter was titled Darkness Among Us and was dropped at peak Among Us popularity. I think everyone expected him to be a disguise-based killer. Instead we got a guy with a knife and chronic fatigue syndrome. Thanks BHVR!
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People thought Legion was a disguise killer because that's pretty much what their trailer implied.

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I've always enjoyed the lore but the actual gameplay part of the killer seems like a rehash of ideas and I saw a video recommended basically echoing this. It has an "infection" mechanic and a teleport tacked on for no real reason. So it's like a ranged Nemesis and a hag that can't as cleanly decide where to put its traps (I think if you hold the grenade out it stops the timer). The perks are fine though I like the idea of a speed boost on vaulting as well as a somewhat more reliable Trail of Torment undetectable from kicking a gen.
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He does look very much basic. Kind of feels like what would happen if you mooshed Dredge up into Hag and the robot, considering you can damage at least with the projectile it's not like he'll ever be terrible to play.
I'm honestly not sure why he holds an axe when his power involves growing a tentacle and shooting explosives out of it. Missed opportunity there to do something cool with the m1 attack imho.
 
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GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS NIGGERS!??!?!??!??

Fuck Otzdarva time.

He is pissy today. Keep in mind that I agree with most of his comments but it was 8:44 that got me where he declares he will no longer make videos discussing balance because he declares it being pointless.


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I doubt he will stop making balance videos because they get clicks and it's just him ranting while gameplay footage is on. Very easy content to make. In addition, the community is getting tired of Otz and his bitching and more people are standing up and saying shit in the protected spaces. So, there's a chance Otz is kicked off the Fog Whisperer shill program.

As @DuranceVile confirmed, he is quitting his 50 win series.
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That thing he's dating is a dude, right? I don't think I'm crazy.
 
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Having made suggestions during testing and have seen them implemented live as a nobody tester I find it hard to believe that a Fog Whisperers input is not considered. I mean I've never suggested anything groundbreaking or anything that fundamentally change any mechanics or anything, at most it's little QoL things, but I've noticed them.

I'm also in the bottom MMR BHVR seems to cater to the higher MMR which he is in. The idea that he claims that they don't listen to him is laughable at best. I'm actually a little MATI here that people believe this... Unless they are phasing him out and giving him the cold shoulder before they get rid of him. A Fog Whisper isn't listened to by the Devs? Yeah, fuck off.

I also think he was called in to test because they didn't have enough people to test and the vast majority of people who do sign up think it's a fast track to a Twitch t-shirt. I think maybe they call in QA tester in secret as regular testers. (Or it's just a regional thing to combat lag while testing. There's been more than one time they have encouraged answers in French if they felt more comfortable.)

But I do know when what he was testing came out, he had a video ready for it. Maybe they've stopped listening to him and that's why he's grumpy, but the idea they don't and by extension never did listen to a Fog Whisperer is just ludicrous.
 
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But I do know when what he was testing came out, he had a video ready for it. Maybe they've stopped listening to him and that's why he's grumpy, but the idea they don't and by extension never did listen to a Fog Whisperer is just ludicrous.
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It's possible the devs know that listening to him for buffs/nerfs & adjustments will kill the game.

Huntress getting those buffs likely was due to map design not being favorable to her anymore.
+2 Hatchets and faster movement is due to shitty locker placement and her being good for revenue
 
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Having made suggestions during testing and have seen them implemented live as a nobody tester I find it hard to believe that a Fog Whisperers input is not considered.
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Tbf, Otzdarva says the Saw map is killer sided so its good BHVR doesn't listen to his dogshit takes. That and apparently Sadako 3.0 was made cause of fantard whining like Otz ranking her A-. So thanks for making the worst killer even worse and cheesable because survivorfags are too retarded to grab a fucking tape.

Edit: Also, the upcoming Pig nerf is Otzdarva's idea too. He's been claiming for years that reverse bear traps and headpops were overpowered. So now she's just a worse Chucky and even Wraith.

I'm citing his video again because he pinned and commented on it


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See, I don't pay attention to me mechanics, I play because of the horror and crossovers and the feedback I give is like "This killer feels kind of big and too slow for the size" or "This colour is hard to see there" or "I don't think new players will like this". And for the longest time BHVR only listened to the top tier of the top MMR for game changes when depending on the time of day and platform can be vastly different games.

If they aren't listening only to them anymore I'm happy and it's definitely better for the game and he can keep crying that he isn't listened to now, but to try and claim they never had an effect is what gets me MATI.
 
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People thought Legion was a disguise killer because that's pretty much what their trailer implied.
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Real interaction, but in playing custom games with a newfriend, they unironically thought Legion was a fellow survivor when facing them for the first time with the full stage chase music addon on. I blame the cosmetics blurring the line between what survivors look like and what the killers can look like, but it's a fringe case and not indicative of how the playerbase in general sees Legion as a concept. Thought it was worth mentioning though, I wish I could re-create that setting/feel as a regular gameplay mechanic.

In other not-news, Meet Your Maker is still chugging along respectably. Nothing relevant is going on, but they added 100% free reward tracks with dailies and cosmetic rewards a la Deep Rock Galactic to drive user engagement metrics presumably. There's 4 suits now, a new gun and shield, 5 level biomes, an oozing random-acid sprayer and Predator guard, and the most notable traps are a blended-in springboard that pushes you into mines or plasma cubes. The level select has undergone some revamping to look more like a flowchart map with regular Red Cell rewards so you can actually unlock shit at a reasonable time. Gameplay exploits like arrow traps behind plasma cubes are fixed and you can ranged-vacuum up currency drops and not get baited into traps trying to pick them up. Killboxes are less common. I fired up my not-perfected bases and made two new ones, and was surprised to get raided 10+ times in under an hour. There's also some character model and weapon recolors to collect and swap in and out. Features seem to be rounding out, but I feel zero motivation to buy anything but the original egyptian DLC pack for building just because I want the doodad that looks like a weird clock that's noisy as shit. I doubt this would convince anyone to play and it's not really a true multiplayer game anyways, but I'm hanging on and other people seem to be doing the same. I still thing the Meet Your Maker skin for Meg in DBD is pretty great looking.
 
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Real interaction, but in playing custom games with a newfriend, they unironically thought Legion was a fellow survivor when facing them for the first time with the full stage chase music addon on. I blame the cosmetics blurring the line between what survivors look like and what the killers can look like, but it's a fringe case and not indicative of how the playerbase in general sees Legion as a concept. Thought it was worth mentioning though, I wish I could re-create that setting/feel as a regular gameplay mechanic.
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The red stain was not a big enough indicator?

I'd love for BHVR to introduce a real disguise killer. Particularly if I could stall all progress on a gen by working on it with them.
 
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TBH I thought and was hoping when Legion was first teased that's what they were doing. It was around the time when F13th was teasing something (I thought at the time similar thing) right before everything got shut down. That's when I started to stop getting my hopes up about DBD.
 
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That thing he's dating is a dude, right? I don't think I'm crazy.
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poor lady, some women are just not attractive. It's not her fault.
I got banned immediately from his chat for saying that pride flags were a disability setting for people without a personality lol

I miss DBD but I don't play because there's canonically a tranny and I can't justify spending any money on a game that does that. Also, the community bitching and screeching about chase music so much that they took the NOSTROMO alarms out of the Alien theme pissed me off so bad.
 
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The Iron Maiden crossover was a weird idea. Not particularly sure the playerbase knows who the hell Iron Maiden is except for the music your grandpa listens to when he's drinking.

BHVR you cowards do ICP next. I'd unironically buy a Violent J skin for Clown.
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Listen, I don't care, maiden is based. I'll consoom.
 
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