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[Gondolindrim]

Miles fans are just a bunch of babies. They were pulling feats from other heroes to gas him up and now that he's lost, they're just being whiny about it.

I mean Deku has been the punching bag of the anime community (especially with the way MHA's final chapters were) and people were mocking his victory before the fight given how significantly weaker Miles is compared to Asta (Deku's last opponent), also the Deku slander is kinda funny

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Yeah it's a little funny but Deku slander has always been kinda nonsensical because the biggest critics of the end of MHA haven't actually been reading it and genuinely believed that he ended the series working at a McDonald's. I don't like when secondaries act like experts.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Not a single person is surprised of the outcome. Death Battle trying to shill for Miles Morales in the analysis and the fight was cringe as well. And I'm glad we're just getting two monsters next time so we can stop this friendly banter in Death Battle stuff.

Something about the attempt to try and capture that comic book/manga feel really made this fight…not really work very well.

Also, I don’t have much of an issue with the friendly banter. But at the same time, this felt more like a DBX or a fan animation than going all out. Are we getting to the point where DB is being beat when it comes to making non hostile combatants go all out? They’ve already got videos rather than just text where they do battles. Even joke battles.

Damn, I somehow wanted them both to die.
Oh well, I suppose I dislike the crybaby cuckold slightly less than SpidDEIrman, at least Deku isn't going around being hamfisted into a romance with Gwen Stacy or whatever the fuck they're trying to do to convince people Miles really is Spiderman and deserves all of Peter's things (and also electric powers )

Wasn’t the MhA final arc still said to be absolute dogwater though?

Also, am I the only one who thinks that Deku’s English voice makes it an automatic “subs over dubs” choice?

Interesting how Deku won and still loses in the eyes of public opinion, cause what other character gets slandered like this (It's deserved cause Deku is a bum)

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Something tells me I have to wonder if the DB team is going to have some kind of noteworthy thing to deal with this fallout, assuming they even address it.

I sometimes wonder how much better Spiderverse would be if it wasn't forced to revolve around him.

One thing I’ve heard is that Spiderverse, and maybe multiverse stories in general, work better if they’re more or less a recognized one-off.

As for Miles specifically, the issue I’ve heard is that anytime he’s with other heroes, he’s either upstaged or made to the point where he comes across as a sidekick at best.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Interesting how Deku won and still loses in the eyes of public opinion, cause what other character gets slandered like this (It's deserved cause Deku is a bum)

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I mean Deku has been the punching bag of the anime community (especially with the way MHA's final chapters were) and people were mocking his victory before the fight given how significantly weaker Miles is compared to Asta (Deku's last opponent), also the Deku slander is kinda funny

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There's only one street-level hero who can stop Deku's killing spree.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Yeah it's a little funny but Deku slander has always been kinda nonsensical because the biggest critics of the end of MHA haven't actually been reading it and genuinely believed that he ended the series working at a McDonald's. I don't like when secondaries act like experts.

Yeah that's true, though Deku still has genuine critiques from how his character got reduced to being a general dumbass who can't really think on his own. Theres also just the general stink of the MHA fandom on him which like you can tell how bad it is when Death Battle listed love interest as "one of them" given the rabid fujo culture around MHA

There's only one street-level hero who can stop Deku's killing spree.
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Too OP now Death Battle has to give Deku another win by fighting literal babies

 

[The greater a'tuin]

This fight was so ass, what the fuck are the connections, even?
I heard somebody say it was like, legacy characters? But how does that make sense? Maybe it's Death Battle losers?

Like, seriously, Deku doesn't take the name All Might, and Peter didn't give his spider powers to Miles.
Unironically you could fucking argue that Deku fighting Hal Jordan would make more sense considering that at least Hal was given his powers by another guy giving his powers away (even if they were dying)

Of course that's a megastomp of extreme proportions but so was this. What the fuck even was this, anyway? The fucking wank going on even during the fight as Deku sucks off the guy he just violently exploded was just fucking baffling.
Bring back Hal Jordan cutting off Ben 10's arm with a giant pair of scissors.

They've actually made me miss OOC characterizations in Death Battles.

I really question the thought process when they are reliant on crowdfunding and development cycles are longer than ever. They literally can't afford repeated fighter stomp matches that nobody asked for. Why waste time on this? Just why?

 

[Neet Tokusatsu]

Interesting how Deku won and still loses in the eyes of public opinion, cause what other character gets slandered like this (It's deserved cause Deku is a bum)

Imagine a character (a shonen protagonist on top of that) so devoid of charisma to the point even a victory results in mockery.

cause half of those characters would've beaten Deku's ass easily especially Gohan, Superboy, and Invincible.

I've seen more than a few MHA fans saying that "Peak Deku would destroy Invincible" and i'm like, well duh, you're comparing a character at his peak against a character far from his own peak in strength, Deku is the top hero in his own setting while current Invincible isn't even in the Top 10 of his universe. Why don't MHA fans pit Deku against the real Tops of Invincible like Nolan, Conquest or Battle Beast? we all know why...

 

[Random Internet Person]

I really question the thought process when they are reliant on crowdfunding and development cycles are longer than ever. They literally can't afford repeated fighter stomp matches that nobody asked for. Why waste time on this? Just why?

From what I’ve heard, the kickstarter was mostly done to get their independent model off the ground, and then the show would be able to support itself.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

One thing I’ve heard is that Spiderverse, and maybe multiverse stories in general, work better if they’re more or less a recognized one-off.

Yeah, that's the thing with the multiverse in general, it's really meant for the sorta "What If" stuff, or at least that was historically what Marvel used it for, just a long line of "What if this happened instead" stories that were mostly entertaining, even if a lot of the times things didn't end up going amazing. IIRC even if the "What If Spiderman saved Gwen Stacy" Pete still ends up getting fucked.

Unfortunately, shit like Rick and Morty has really poisoned the well for multiverse stuff, where instead of "What If this happened" it was just "WHAT IF EVERYTHING WAS WACKY!? HOW ABOUT A UNIVERSE WHERE EVERYONE IS TREES!" and shit like that. Which completely ruins any sense of grandeure that could be had.

The real problem starts when you start making main characters for your multiverse adventures, where typically the only recurring character should be the narrator (usually some cosmic entity showing you the other world).
It's funny how you can actually see this when Marvel did an animated version of What If, and they started out fairly strong with a decent Season 1 which focused on a large array of characters across different time periods, and then had some of those main characters get brought together for a 1 time thing to stop Infinity Ultron.
And then in Season 2, not only did it beoame the adventures of Captain Carter. Which lead to this actual fucking abomination of a screenshot:

The random girl next to her was an original character entirely designed for her own What If. They fucking introduced an OC in a "What If" Show. I fucking hate Marvel.

And then in Season 3, it somehow got worse and Captain Carter acquired the powers of mega god to grllboss to the extreme.

Oh right, anyway, Multiverses should never have "main characters" because it just ruins the worldbuilding and makes the worlds being visited seem less important.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I've seen more than a few MHA fans saying that "Peak Deku would destroy Invincible" and i'm like, well duh, you're comparing a character at his peak against a character far from his own peak in strength, Deku is the top hero in his own setting while current Invincible isn't even in the Top 10 of his universe. Why don't MHA fans pit Deku against the real Tops of Invincible like Nolan, Conquest or Battle Beast? we all know why..

The funny shit is that early Invincible could beat Deku since he could just take him to space if he were going all out. Deku can't breathe up there so....

 

[Random Internet Person]

@Symbol of the Chud The other thing I’ve heard about multiverse and it’s problems is that “there’s no reason to get invested because if a hero is backed into a corner or getting their ass kicked by some villain they can just snap their fingers or give some kind of signal and then there’s all these variations to provide assistance.” Also, multiverse means you can bitch about Spider-Man’s Clone Saga apparently.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Not a single person is surprised of the outcome. Death Battle trying to shill for Miles Morales in the analysis and the fight was cringe as well. And I'm glad we're just getting two monsters next time so we can stop this friendly banter in Death Battle stuff.

It was super cringe, Miles Morales is cringe by default though, but they somehow made him even worse. And that ghetto music, abysmal.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

It was super cringe, Miles Morales is cringe by default though, but they somehow made him even worse. And that ghetto music, abysmal.

I fucking hate Miles Morales so god damn much. At the very least Spiderverse 2 had him written accurate to what he is, a stupid selfish nigger who is incapable of understanding conditionals such as "If your father doesn't die, your entire universe will end." or "How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today?" and goes "nuh me do me thing!"

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Yeah, that's the thing with the multiverse in general, it's really meant for the sorta "What If" stuff, or at least that was historically what Marvel used it for, just a long line of "What if this happened instead" stories that were mostly entertaining, even if a lot of the times things didn't end up going amazing. IIRC even if the "What If Spiderman saved Gwen Stacy" Pete still ends up getting fucked.

Unfortunately, shit like Rick and Morty has really poisoned the well for multiverse stuff, where instead of "What If this happened" it was just "WHAT IF EVERYTHING WAS WACKY!? HOW ABOUT A UNIVERSE WHERE EVERYONE IS TREES!" and shit like that. Which completely ruins any sense of grandeure that could be had.

Another issue is that both Marvel and DC have used the multiverse as a way to tie in classic movies to their worlds, like what No Way Home did. It's not really expanding the world. It's making the audience think of movies they could be watching.

Is that... Captain Carter with Hela's helmet and the Infinity Stones?

@Symbol of the Chud The other thing I’ve heard about multiverse and it’s problems is that “there’s no reason to get invested because if a hero is backed into a corner or getting their ass kicked by some villain they can just snap their fingers or give some kind of signal and then there’s all these variations to provide assistance.” Also, multiverse means you can bitch about Spider-Man’s Clone Saga apparently.

It's weird because of all shows, the CW Flash show had a better way to justify this than most cases. After becoming the Spectre and recreating the multiverse, Oliver returns as the Green Arrow only once, which he explains was something he could only do temporarily and when the multiverse is in danger. Yeah, it's vague, but unlike other multiverse teamups, there are limitations put in place.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Is that... Captain Carter with Hela's helmet and the Infinity Stones?

Yup! She's also got the Infinity Armor (Which was designed by Ultron to better regulate the stones) and some sort of Gamma Sword that was used by a parallel Hulk.
And she needs all of this to help her kill the one interesting character What If spawned (Strange Supreme) after the writers decided that he actually hadn't learned his lesson about trying to change "nexus events" like he was clearly written to have at the end of Season 1 because he's a white man that needs to get girlbossed to death.

 

[cremechocolate]

The funny shit is that early Invincible could beat Deku since he could just take him to space if he were going all out. Deku can't breathe up there so....

Early Invincible would get blitzed before that could happen.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Yup! She's also got the Infinity Armor (Which was designed by Ultron to better regulate the stones) and some sort of Gamma Sword that was used by a parallel Hulk.
And she needs all of this to help her kill the one interesting character What If spawned (Strange Supreme) after the writers decided that he actually hadn't learned his lesson about trying to change "nexus events" like he was clearly written to have at the end of Season 1 because he's a white man that needs to get girlbossed to death.

The fanfiction levels of writing is painful.

It was super cringe, Miles Morales is cringe by default though, but they somehow made him even worse. And that ghetto music, abysmal.

You know, it’s been a while since the non sycophants got together to shit on an episode of Death Battle. And probably even longer since they didn’t bitch about the result or make debunking videos to do it.

I fucking hate Miles Morales so god damn much. At the very least Spiderverse 2 had him written accurate to what he is, a stupid selfish nigger who is incapable of understanding conditionals such as "If your father doesn't die, your entire universe will end." or "How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today?" and goes "nuh me do me thing!"

Isn’t Miles a teenager though? Being stupid and selfish comes with that territory.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Isn’t Miles a teenager though? Being stupid and selfish comes with that territory.

The comics/games/media tend to overly hype him up as a better, smarter, more relatable Spiderman than Peter Parker and “isn’t he just so amazing and powerful and cool and just the best?” and people get really REALLY sick of being told they’re supposed to like something.

 

[Lone Star]

Also, I don’t have much of an issue with the friendly banter.

Problem is it's really weird when the two heroes are chatting, having a good time, complimenting each other...and then one just fucking murders the other and shows maybe a second or two of remorse from the senseless slaughter.

Also I hate both Deku and Miles, but I hated DEI-Man more than Deku. Him being so heavily shilled by Marvel, who is so desperate to make him the main Spider-Man gives me a kneejerk reaction to just despise the fucker.

Miles fans are just a bunch of babies. They were pulling feats from other heroes to gas him up and now that he's lost, they're just being whiny about it.

Agreed, Miles fans were shit-talking, saying Deku had no chance...but suddenly Miles is a poor little street tier victim now that he lost. I'm all for slandering Deku, but this method is so pathetic.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Problem is it's really weird when the two heroes are chatting, having a good time, complimenting each other...and then one just fucking murders the other and shows maybe a second or two of remorse from the senseless slaughter.

Sounds like the third Goku vs Superman got it right , and this episode got it wrong.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Sounds like the third Goku vs Superman got it right , and this episode got it wrong.

What made Goku v. Superman 3 work was that the characterization fit the situation.

Goku is loved fighting, so it's in-character for him to challenge Superman several times, as well as be more nonchalant about death thanks to the Dragon Balls. The whole reason why the normally cautious Superman decided to go all out and have fun was Goku told him they could use the Dragon Balls to wish back whatever they break. The fight ends with Superman winning, but both he and Goku acknowledge the other as a fighter thanks to getting to chat in that white void thingy.

With Deku vs Miles, it just feels weird to see the normally altruistic Deku actively seeking out a fight, especially when he's the one who cares more about collateral damage. The fight also isn't back and forth like Goku v. Superman 3, where you can understand why both fighters would respect each other. Miles barely gets any hits in, so it's hard to see what Deku finds so amazing about his "Quirk".