Debate Freya and Android Raptor about which side of the abortion debates are true pedos (and Mrs. Doubtfire for some reason)

[Badungus Kabungus]

all i've really said that would be similar is that i believe people should be allowed to do what they want with themselves. that isn't even a popular position from anyone. you are right about online making it worse. but that is a bias since what we see other people saying sets the boundaries for what we perceive as possible

Funny how "people should be allowed to do what they want with themselves" in the mind of a leftoid only applies to genital mutilation and anal sex, but not to refusing the experimental covid vax and openly practicing their religion.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

Funny how "people should be allowed to do what they want with themselves" in the mind of a leftoid only applies to genital mutilation and anal sex, but not to refusing the experimental covid vax and openly practicing their religion.

Anal sex belongs in both categories. They can peg whoever they want, and you aren't allowed to refuse them.

 

[Shidoen]

Anal sex belongs in both categories. They can peg whoever they want, and you aren't allowed to refuse them.

“Your attempts to peg me are futile, make me a sammich.”

 

[Montalbane]

I am willing to dick them both down.

Grease me up lads.

I am going in.

 

[Freya]

LIBRUUUUHLSSS

You are not sentient

 

[Shidoen]

You are not sentient

Every thread you’ve posted in (strictly speaking of articles and news of course) have been about the same amount of vocabulary as any other account. You’re not sentient you’re just on auto pilot.

 

[Ishtar]

a woman literally said 10 year olds were made for birthing

Yes she did. There are people who take the idea of patriarchy and female submission in the pro life movement seriously. You can disagree, and dislike this and be content in the knowledge most "conservatives" aren't that hardcore. You will never be chained to a radiator and impregnated in some Handmaiden's Tale feminist dystopia.

Its a bizarre thing to get upset about, hardcore religious people exist who think kids shouldn't get medicine, or that all of science is satanic or that demons are in every computer. They don't matter, they don't effect the broader culture.

You can dislike them, hate them even but its ridiculous and hysterical to get worked up over a tiny percentage of the population.

 

[Freya]

Yes she did. There are people who take the idea of patriarchy and female submission in the pro life movement seriously. You can disagree, and dislike this and be content in the knowledge most "conservatives" aren't that hardcore. You will never be chained to a radiator and impregnated in some Handmaiden's Tale feminist dystopia.

Its a bizarre thing to get upset about, hardcore religious people exist who think kids shouldn't get medicine, or that all of science is satanic or that demons are in every computer. They don't matter, they don't effect the broader culture.

You can dislike them, hate them even but its ridiculous and hysterical to get worked up over a tiny percentage of the population.

She went on TV to lobby for it and is the head of an organization. She has influence. This is exactly how political change occurs.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

You are not sentient

And you are fat. I would not have sex with you.

 

[Freya]

And you are fat. I would not have sex with you.

I know. You're only into other mongoloid tracksuit squatting rape orcs

 

[Shidoen]

I know. You're only into other mongoloid tracksuit squatting rape orcs

He’s a Goth?

 

[Ishtar]

She went on TV to lobby for it and is the head of an organization. She has influence. This is exactly how political change occurs.

Most Americans don’t want total bans on abortion, recent days have shown the pro life movement is at best vastly out of touch with the sentiments of most people.

 

[Freya]

Most Americans don’t want total bans on abortion, recent days have shown the pro life movement is at best vastly out of touch with the sentiments of most people.

This is true. I do not believe she will convince anyone

But it is worth noting that crazy shit can happen in the spam of a few years. My Latin teacher in 2011 was talking about how Donald Trump was running for president again and how ridiculous that was and look what happened. Lobbying groups, just like hers have a lot of influence on our elected representatives.

Most Americans want:
1. Some amount of abortion rights.
2. weed to be legalized
3. universal healthcare
Also they want less immigration and most people don't support forced trannyism on kids.


This is like the exact opposite of what both parties want. The crazies will obsessively lobby to get their way. Will of the people be damned.

 

[Ishtar]

This is true. I do not believe she will convince anyone

But it is worth noting that crazy shit can happen in the spam of a few years. My Latin teacher in 2011 was talking about how Donald Trump was running for president again and how ridiculous that was and look what happened. Lobbying groups, just like hers have a lot of influence on our elected representatives.

Most Americans want:
1. Some amount of abortion rights.
2. weed to be legalized
3. universal healthcare
Also they want less immigration and most people don't support forced trannyism on kids.


This is like the exact opposite of what both parties want. The crazies will obsessively lobby to get their way. Will of the people be damned.

The American people are also some of the most retarded as well as downright evil people on earth. This is the same country where fag rights and niggerball are treated as fucking divine.

There is some virtue in Americans, but the overwhelming majority of them are stupid casually malignant cattle. They deserve a steel boot on the skull and a severe beating on the back and a chain around the neck for their degeneracy and stupidity.

 

[Freya]

The American people are also some of the most retarded as well as downright evil people on earth. This is the same country where fag rights and niggerball are treated as fucking divine.

There is some virtue in Americans, but the overwhelming majority of them are stupid casually malignant cattle. They deserve a steel boot on the skull and a severe beating on the back and a chain around the neck for their degeneracy and stupidity.

Maybe. My point isn't that these things are necessarily good or bad, but that lobbying groups pressure politicians to support unpopular things.

 

[Shidoen]

The American people are also some of the most retarded as well as downright evil people on earth. This is the same country where fag rights and niggerball are treated as fucking divine.

There is some virtue in Americans, but the overwhelming majority of them are stupid casually malignant cattle. They deserve a steel boot on the skull and a severe beating on the back and a chain around the neck for their degeneracy and stupidity.

Yeah the American people are pretty retarded. Look at my goddamn quote under my username. That’s not a joke that’s a rule.

 

[Ishtar]

Maybe. My point isn't that these things are necessarily good or bad, but that lobbying groups pressure politicians to support unpopular things.

What a banal observation.

I don’t support abortion on principle. Both for religious reasons and because most feminist arguments boil down to “female empowerment at all costs and evade any biological consequences of sex, anything else is patriarchy!” I’ve seen people advocate for abortions to the very day the child is born.

After Roe I remember reading someone actually argue this, why? Because women being utterly divorced from consequences, shame or any sort of moral responsibility is the basis for every feminist project.

It’s disgusting, and reminded me why I hate feminism. I would sooner live in some handmaiden’s tale caricature than see the feminist project reach its fruition.

 

[Freya]

What a banal observation.

If it is so banal why did you fail to grasp it the first time I brought it up?

I” I’ve seen people advocate for abortions to the very day the child is born.

Didn't you just get done telling me how the head of the Cincinnati anti choice group going on TV talking about how 10 year olds are made for birthing was "not important" or whatever. Yet you bring up some random unnamed person saying this like it matters. Make up your mind.

After Roe I remember reading someone actually argue this, why? Because women being utterly divorced from consequences, shame or any sort of moral responsibility is the basis for every feminist project.

It’s disgusting, and reminded me why I hate feminism. I would sooner live in some handmaiden’s tale caricature than see the feminist project reach its fruition.

There's nothing you or the government can do to stop that though. Men have been "getting away" with having sex since forever but when women can it's suddenly the downfall of society.

 

[Ishtar]

If it is so banal why did you fail to grasp it the first time I brought it up?

Sweetheart, every industry and every sort of activist group does lobbying on some level. It
Says nothing about how successful a movement is or if it can or will shape public discourse.

Didn't you just get done telling me how the head of the Cincinnati anti choice group going on TV talking about how 10 year olds are made for birthing was "not important" or whatever. Yet you bring up some random unnamed person saying this like it matters. Make up your mind.

Having read plenty of feminist articles and publications, including in academic journals it’s the same underlying point. Female empowerment is ultimately about total release from any social obligations, rules or moral demands. Anything that forbids or punishes a woman is something to be agitated against. No matter how reasonable or right.

There's nothing you or the government can do to stop that though. Men have been "getting away" with having sex since forever but when women can it's suddenly the downfall of society.

Honest question? Do you want to see mankind leave this dying rock? Do you want to see us become immortal, to reach for the heavens, to continue producing culture and art, and mastering ourselves and the cosmos? Do you want your roads to function, the law to be enforced, and for tomorrow to have the certainty that it will in fact be? If so, then patriarchy and the subjugation of women is necessary.

Women freed from subjugation inevitably and always lead to society collapsing in an orgy of Dionysian dancing, a fire that burns in the night sky as the earth consumes the dreams of men. This primal state, of no tomorrow only today, of madness and animalism is what female empowerment entails.

The subjugation of women, is the bedrock of civilization. Without it there is no city, there is no trade, no temple, no palace, no science and no art. There are only naked beasts dancing in the flames, incapable of thinking about anything other than the satisfaction of their stomachs and genitals, incapable of imagining tomorrow or the world beyond the senses.

It is because of patriarchy that civilization exists.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

He’s a Goth?

Goths were based. Way to show those uppity Romans who's boss.