Debate @Get the rope Macaulay! on whether or not laws against child exploitation will harm Kiwi Farms

@Get the rope Macaulay!, if the site admin finds a post of yours fantasizing about IRL kids getting exploited to own a lolcow and links it to the Debate Me thread created in response to your sperging about anti-AI generated CSEM laws, within a few hours of the thread getting made, the solution is to log off for a bit and sober up.
It is NOT to do whatever it is you're doing, that I've given up even attempting to follow as a train of thought.

If he's slightly drunk, he's talking about what he honestly believes. Far better for him to out himself explosively like this than strategically wait for the "opportune time" to talk about his "haha child exploitation funny". On principle, his hard drive should be checked out, at the very least.
 
  • Horrifying
Reactions: invisibult plus+
They're not pushing for animal torture though? Where the fuck did you even pull "AI-generated animal torture" from? What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
its more about the lie others like Aella was using recently about "oh AI CP will prevent chomos from doing it irl" like if they genuinely believed that argument why not use it for every other human rights violation such as animal torture, even Aella would see the folly in such an idea meaning she would know that the basis of her argument is also bullshit, meaning the only reason she's pushing it for porn is because of that being her kink. if she's not willing to look outside her own fetish or can see why its bad outside of it that means it was entirely self serving to begin with
You just don't make these kinds of arguments, even if you're being sincere, because a full 100% of the time I have ever seen them being made, it isn't sincere and the people making the argument get suspiciously quiet the second the topic moves to banning something they do not care about.

I am going to assume you know your account's days are numbered and are just fucking around at this point. At least make the seppuku funny, all I ask.
but they claim to be sincere, that cunt Aella constantly argues against her just posting bait and genuinely pushes that she's being sincere
 
Why does it always come down to CP?!
It's the one "art" form that's universally banned in developed countries. So it raises genuine questions about the limits of free expression.
At the same time, everyone loves to hate pedos and The Internet is full of reflexive contrarians that just can't help themselves when there's an opportunity to play devil's advocate even when it's literal fucking pedophiles they're coming to bat for.

Tl;dr: spergs gonna sperg; speds gonna sped.
 
Long time coming
IMG_7389.webp
 
It's the one "art" form that's universally banned in developed countries. So it raises genuine questions about the limits of free expression.
At the same time, everyone loves to hate pedos and The Internet is full of reflexive contrarians that just can't help themselves when there's an opportunity to play devil's advocate even when it's literal fucking pedophiles they're coming to bat for.

Tl;dr: spergs gonna sperg; speds gonna sped.
I personally blame anime. It is my experience that most people who defend this shit are way too into anime.
 
I personally blame anime. It is my experience that most people who defend this shit are way too into anime.
I can't tell if he's originally stating that like most of the "save the children" laws it will be a blanket law that gets a shitload of other laws added to it because of terrorism and muh surveillance. Like the trannies will somehow sneak in a law about misgendering them will get your gulaged--

Or if he's just a lolipedo.
 
i have never once seen yet a real argument made here as to why an anti-pedo law would be used to shut down muh kiwi farms. it's always an immediate invocation of the slippery slope, it's always

1. anti-pedo law will be used against the kiwi farms because
2. ????
3. it just will dammit

there's plenty of anti-pedo laws already on the books, why haven't they been used against the kiwi farms? why is it always THIS NEW LAW that is the one that will be used?
 
i have never once seen yet a real argument made here as to why an anti-pedo law would be used to shut down muh kiwi farms. it's always an immediate invocation of the slippery slope, it's always

1. anti-pedo law will be used against the kiwi farms because
2. ????
3. it just will dammit

there's plenty of anti-pedo laws already on the books, why haven't they been used against the kiwi farms? why is it always THIS NEW LAW that is the one that will be used?
The NEW LAW is the next step of government over-reach, and as the last decade or so has reminded us, individuals in the seat of power have proven time and again that they are willing to use the apparatus of government against their enemies. THIS NEW LAW, depending on its wording, can and will be weaponized against Kiwi Farms, if the mentally ill can find a sympathetic bureaucrat to conclude "hmm yes, these receipts of a tranny grooming a child are in fact child exploitation and so breaking the law", for example, that would be their ammo to "prove" Kiwi Farms to be a pedo site, simply for hosting that content, and demand the full force of the law to shut it down.

Current laws on the books are mostly pointed at people who are very unlikely to be caught up in them by accident, to put it lightly, and none of them involve woodchipper death sentences, so they all SUCK by default.
 
The NEW LAW is the next step of government over-reach,
it always is, isn't it?
and as the last decade or so has reminded us, individuals in the seat of power have proven time and again that they are willing to use the apparatus of government against their enemies.
and yet here kiwi farms still is, despite this decade-long track record. maybe kiwi farms isn't quite the target you think it is, or maybe you're being disingenuous and the real reason you're sperging is different than your concern for the world's premier antipodean aviculture forum
THIS NEW LAW, depending on its wording, can and will be weaponized against Kiwi Farms,
no, it won't be, and everyone knows it save people using the same arguments the pervs who just can't help themselves always use
if the mentally ill can find a sympathetic bureaucrat to conclude "hmm yes, these receipts of a tranny grooming a child are in fact child exploitation and so breaking the law",
what receipts of the kind found on kiwi farms dot net could possibly be construed as such in a court of law?
for example, that would be their ammo to "prove" Kiwi Farms to be a pedo site,
in a court of law?
simply for hosting that content, and demand the full force of the law to shut it down.
what content? is kiwi farms going to be hosting receipts consisting of literal cheese pizza?
Current laws on the books are mostly pointed at people who are very unlikely to be caught up in them by accident, to put it lightly, and none of them involve woodchipper death sentences, so they all SUCK by default.
your pink triangle is well-deserved, as would probably be a red name with a red strikethrough
 
(the below is a history lesson/historical context - before some nigger tries to claim something, I'm not saying he's right or wrong, just that there is historical context/precedent surrounding what he's talking about)

I'm not bothered to read all the comments this user wrote but he's not exactly entirely alone in his belief that CP will be used to justify certain laws that will be then used as an excuse for more laws, eventually to the extent they enable full surveillance of all internet traffic and privacy on the internet disappears.

In fact his line of thinking about the rationale for these kind of laws dates back to 1988:
The use of encryption by ‘evil’ groups, such as child pornographer, terrorists, abortionists, abortion protestors, etc., is cited by those who wish to limit civilian access to crypto tools. We call these the ‘Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse,’ as they are so often cited as the reason why ordinary citizen–units of the nation–state are not to have access to crypto [graphy].
Timothy May, 1988

Not saying he's right or wrong but there is literally a 37 year old basis that things like CP will be used as the basis to limit civilian access to cryptography tools (and AI relates to that in some ways)... it was only recently that Apple was about to do content scanning on their devices and also only recently that Apple disabled encrypted backups in the EU (with cybercrime and CP being the justification from what I can remember).
 
n a court of law?
No, at the end of the day, it’s likely that after a “process is the punishment” wheel of Justice turning, Kiwi Farms (a website) will be found clear of wrongdoing. However, it’s the “probable” reach, and the mere existence of the case being prosecuted being used as ammo to further paint the Farms as a “pedo site” which, if KF was the Internet’s nigger before, an active court case against it (please note: all litigation against KF has failed because KF is explicitly US-legal) that isn’t Greer or Acerthorn’s shenanigans, but brought by the United States, would be a dinner bell to the mentally ill to signal boost “kiwi farms are pedos”. Considering how easily #DropKiwiFarms was able to force KF to tor once, this “hard proof” would probably be used to force KF off clearweb completely, because they could escalate it to the level of international law, where sympathetic functionaries would rubber-stamp it.

Kiwi Farms is the target of very obsessive people who will go over every legal codex they can find with a fine-tooth comb to see if they can twist the law to be used as a weapon against it.

Also, “think of the children” is and always has been a rallying cry for authoritarian control, the state trying to substitute itself for or even supplant parents, always. Good parents would have sniffed out and removed the groomer, whereas the state will put the groomer in power over the kids (the groomer sought out that position to get power over the kids, and will use the apparatus of the state as a shield). I’m not a big fan of the government and in my mind, any legislation it puts out is either so the well-connected can launder money, or to hurt and/or exert control over me, or both.
 
No, at the end of the day, it’s likely that after a “process is the punishment” wheel of Justice turning, Kiwi Farms (a website) will be found clear of wrongdoing. However, it’s the “probable” reach, and the mere existence of the case being prosecuted being used as ammo to further paint the Farms as a “pedo site” which, if KF was the Internet’s nigger before, an active court case against it (please note: all litigation against KF has failed because KF is explicitly US-legal) that isn’t Greer or Acerthorn’s shenanigans, but brought by the United States, would be a dinner bell to the mentally ill to signal boost “kiwi farms are pedos”. Considering how easily #DropKiwiFarms was able to force KF to tor once, this “hard proof” would probably be used to force KF off clearweb completely, because they could escalate it to the level of international law, where sympathetic functionaries would rubber-stamp it.

Kiwi Farms is the target of very obsessive people who will go over every legal codex they can find with a fine-tooth comb to see if they can twist the law to be used as a weapon against it.

Also, “think of the children” is and always has been a rallying cry for authoritarian control, the state trying to substitute itself for or even supplant parents, always. Good parents would have sniffed out and removed the groomer, whereas the state will put the groomer in power over the kids (the groomer sought out that position to get power over the kids, and will use the apparatus of the state as a shield). I’m not a big fan of the government and in my mind, any legislation it puts out is either so the well-connected can launder money, or to hurt and/or exert control over me, or both.
For sure there is a very real possibility that some laws would possibly be used/weaponized at a later date to push certain narratives or be abused to achieve certain objectives, even if people can't see the route they would take right now. Those could either be at the direction of the government (like the PATRIOT act) or by private corporations (and to a lesser extent private individuals).

Peter Thiel was able to kill the OG Gawker website by spamming money in support of a Hulk Hogan privacy lawsuit, so there are definitely unforeseen ways in which things can be used inadvertently to achieve certain outcomes. And keep in mind Kiwifarms is sort of a modern day Gawker (although very different in format/substance, there are some similarities in its nature)
Also, “think of the children” is and always has been a rallying cry for authoritarian control, the state trying to substitute itself for or even supplant parents, always. Good parents would have sniffed out and removed the groomer, whereas the state will put the groomer in power over the kids (the groomer sought out that position to get power over the kids, and will use the apparatus of the state as a shield). I’m not a big fan of the government and in my mind, any legislation it puts out is either so the well-connected can launder money, or to hurt and/or exert control over me, or both.
This is very true and not to understate the issues with child grooming and CP etc, the US currently appears to have a wide ranging, systematic issue with fentanyl turning a decent amount of its population into zombies (which arguably has a much larger and more immediate impact on society, at least currently). That is to say nothing of the issues with "screen time" in general and psychologically addictive apps (like Facebook, TikTok etc) and their impact on society.

Fentanyl is complex but addictive apps causing psychological issues in children isn't that complex and there's been tons of evidence showing Meta/Facebook are well aware of the bad impact they have on society over years and years but fuck all has happened with that.
 
Back