Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Swamp_Donkey]

I can get marble rye, focaccia, etc at the supermarket 2 minutes away you copeing expat know-it-all

i forget about costco having legit fresh ciabatta rolls. those mfers were tasty for sandwiches.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

where did the cow come from nigger

you know marble rye is bread right?

 

[Mellisuga Helenae]

Null is right, our food is fake goyslop. He should just stay in Serbia where the food is wholesome, organic, and locally produced.

In fact, I heard that it's a pleasant and very affordable country. I also heard that they have a booming hipster scene and a diverse community to boot!

I would suggest any and all Californians or New Yorkers considering relocation emigrate there instead of some backwards red state like Texas.

 

[Castoreum]

We got the banker bread. SHALOM MOTHERFUCKER!

Please stop embarrassing yourself for my sake. Look up the brands you're posting and the ingredients.

It has just as many additives as any other bread from Kroger.

niacin = Vitamin B3
ferrous sulfate = Iron
thiamine mononitrate = Vitamin B1
riboflavin = Vitamin B2
folic acid = Vitamin B9

American bread companies process wheat berries to remove the hull. The purpose is to result in a more consistent texture and a whiter bread. However, nutrients and enzymes that are contained in the hull are removed. Therefore, bread companies put them back in by fortifying the grain with additives. Not to mention, the involvement of seed oils in American bread, which is a whole other topic in and of itself. Artisan bread usually tries to avoid enriched flours but shit like "fortified bread" doesn't happen in Europe because they use the whole fucking grain like you're supposed to.

Also, I'm 90% sure the turmeric is used to make the bread yellow like traditional challah bread is supposed to be. I've never seen challah with turmeric, but I'm not a Jew though so don't quote me on that.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

We have Mexican meat markets where I am. I can't say where the meat comes from, but they have a wide selection of cuts that aren't in regular grocery stores. I know they have oxtails and tongue and, of course, Taco meat.


Not my picture.

 

[Chimplord1997]

You’re still a faggot because unlike Null, you aren’t buying it cut straight from a pig, right in front of you, by some Baba Yaga voodoo bitch in her fly filled straw hut, so fuckin’ pipe down.

I'm not interested in the argument, I just want to poast about yummy food

 

[Weed Man]

I don't know about bread and meat but the U.S definitely has a good cheese scene. I work as a cheesemonger so I'm about to sperg so fucking hard.

If you like artisanal cheeses I'm just going to drop a list of shit you should look for at your local market/cheese counter

1. Harbison
This is becoming an American classic. Made out in Vermont by Jasper Hill, This cheese is usually served with the top cut off. It's a spruce band wrapped bloomy rind, so it's not very funky but definitely full of flavor. It's extremely spoonable, and has notes of pine and meat, and is delicious with roasted vegetables. The maker also works with Cabot and makes a delicious clothbound cheddar called Cabot Clothbound.


2. Hooligan
Hooligan is a 2 month aged raw cow milk that is washed in a buttermilk. FDA shits itself over raw milk cheeses so usually their limit is 2 months. Anything younger has to be pasteurized. Hooligan thankfully pushes right on the edge of that guideline. Definitely very intense and funky, but delicious and full flavored. Nice saltyness too due to the raw milk. Made out in Connecticut


3. Dirt Lover
Not only is the name great, but so is this cheese. It's an ashripened sheep milk that is so buttery smooth it's a crime. Sheep milk usually has lanolin which gives it that silky smooth texture. It has a nice little tang to the flavor. Fucking superb little thing from Missouri


4. Shabby Shoe
This is a new cheese actually! It's a goat milk from Wisconsin (the cheese state). It has a delicate rind, nice developed creamline and clay like paste. It tastes like lemons and brine with a nice goaty twang after. Serve this with a little bit of fig jam and you got yourself a dessert.


5. Finger Lakes Gold
Made in the Interlaken area of upstate New York, this is a firm natural rind goat cheese. It's deep, mineraly, salty and has a wonderful snackable texture. Not too dry, not too soft. You won't be able to even tell it's goat cheese depending on the wheel.


6. Rogue River Blue
Saving the best for last, this cheese is literally the best. It won World's Best Cheese back in 2019. This is a cow milk blue that is soaked in a pear liqueur, wrapped in grape leaves. It's moist, sweet, boozy and so soft in texture you'll cry. This baby originates from Rogue Creamery out in Oregon.


American cheese isn't bad anymore. Yeah they have processed shit but places like Wegmans and Kroger are starting to widen their selection of GOOD cheeses.

 

[Carnivorous Plant]

Null's wording was a bit clumsy, but his larger point about the unequal distribution of quality food/ingredients in the US is very true and depressing. ~23 million Americans live in food deserts alone, and just because someone doesn't live in one doesn't mean the food they have access to are things that they should be eating.

edit: Also I'll take this opportunity to shill Humboldt Fog cheese.

 

[Al from Dadeville]

I have this photo of Lucas Werner’s shopping cart saved in my favorites

 

[Glowie Hunter Art Bell]

Just gunna hit you with the "95% of Europe is also eating processed slop as well" because they Are. EU uses like 80% of the same bullshit we do and the other 20% is a replacement for whatever shit we were using. It's arguably easier to get fresh food here in the US/Can, living in the midwest I'm surrounded by local butchers and farm stands. More open land, more hunting/self sustaining types and culture vs faggot bughive hyperurban Europe. I've also never heard Europeans regularly talk about farm stands and farmers markets (the real kind not the hippy kind) whereas even my boomer ass dad who sits around eating chips and watching football gets his corn and tomatoes fresh from a local farm stand. The whole shtick is reddit tier shit. Ehat your saying is true maybe if you're some fat single mom named Kelsey who exclusively shops at dollar general or some shit. Not for anyone who has 2 brain cells to knock together tho. Also wasn't a Wisconsin cheese declared the best in the world? You've gotta leave Florida man

 

[Dilf Department]

I'm not an Americuck but I like white bread, it's sweeter and different from other breads and has a beautiful aesthetic too, billions must enjoy all types of bread

 

[enamelled toothbrush]

Null is correct. I have lived all over the United States, and outside of the major cities, the quality of food is shit. It’s starting to improve in some areas in middle America where the coastal elites are starting to seep out and bringing their food preferences with them (unfortunately they don’t leave their politics in the city). You idiots claiming otherwise haven’t actually seen what the food options are in places like rural Kansas or Appalachia.

 

[JamusActimus]

When it comes to bread.

In general you know it's a top tier bread artisan if they use starters, make good whole wheat bread and make their own pastries.
In my country , you need to bake the bread in the same building for it to be called a bakery.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

My goalposts are firm: I can literally walk into any store around me, in any small shithole goat herder village, and have access to high quality groceries. In the United States, in order to find fresh bread and a variety of cheese, you must drive to the nearest population center and find a specialty store. If you're lucky, there's actually a brick and mortar "old fashioned" bakery.

However, my point about meat stands firm. You cannot find a butchery that is actually a butchery.

Yeah I don't know why this is a controversial thing to say. You're right and it sucks. I wish it was different. I have no idea why people are defending ultra corporations and government sanctioned monopolies.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

We have Mexican meat markets where I am. I can't say where the meat comes from, but they have a wide selection of cuts that aren't in regular grocery stores. I know they have oxtails and tongue and, of course, Taco meat.

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Not my picture.

We also have a large hispanic cohort here and their grocers provide an excellent bit of variety. Not to mention the food at their hole-in-the-wall Tacquerias is incredibly delicious. Particularly tongue, lengua tacos are so fucking good.

When Europoors like Sargonnes say Mexican food is shit its because they're thinking of Tex-mex and not proper spic food from a real Tacqueria.

 

[Paul Revere Pantry Raider]

This. This is the spergiest Jawsh has ever been.

 

[Castoreum]

This. This is the spergiest Jawsh has ever been.

I think he's just looking for suggestions for his own charcuterie board.

 

[Null]

This. This is the spergiest Jawsh has ever been.

Pffft. This is a good time sunshine. It's a fun day.

 

[GET!]

damn the fats are mad af

 

[Judex Meus]

I'm convinced this is either bait, or he's fishing for recommendations for Thanksgiving dinner.