Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[Null]

Null has become radicalized by old KotH episodes

there's a reason that show was so popular and it's because it was laser guided on point

 

[General Disarray]

A poster way way pages ago apparently thought it was some sort of gotcha that various nutrients are in my local bakery bread - might want to check most flours which are enriched. Duh.

I love my bread machine. I have a recipe for Japanese milk bread, where you make a simple roux (tangzhong) that you add to the rest of the ingredients in your machine. From the recipe: "Bringing the temperature of the flour and liquid to 65°C (149°F) pre-gelatinizes the flour’s starches, which makes them more able to retain liquid — thus enhancing the resulting bread's softness and shelf life."

You can then either split into rolls or knead and fold into a loaf. I'll be trying it over the weekend and will post my results.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I'll add that not only is Null correct, but he's actually not going far enough. I went to another country and had a fucking salad and I was floored by their damn lettuce. The fucking lettuce of all things alone was infinitely more flavorful than anything in the states. Forget meats and cheeses, not even our simplest and most basic of foods are real.

 

[pork and beans]

LOL at the people in this thread insisting Null is wrong then immediately linking their favorite bread recipe or talking about a fucking bread machine. In other countries you don't need to go to a bakery to buy good bread least of all make it yourself.... the cheapest baguettes at the supermarket are already ok and devoid of anything other than flour, yeast, water, mother dough, salt and like 1 antioxidant.

 

[Rick's Beef Wellington]

I just realised something about @Null

Patrick S Tomlinson is an obese faggot who is incapable of admitting when hes wrong and obsessed with "correcting the record" to "prove" he's right.
Joshua Conner Moon is also a fat faggot who is incapable of admitting he's wrong and obsessed with "correcting the record" to "prove" he's right.
Patrick S Tomlinson has provably had sex at least once.
Josua Conner Moon has never even provably been on a date with a woman.
Patrick S Tomlinson knows his father.
Joshua Conner Moon doesn't even know his fathers name.

Conclusion, Joshua Conner Moon is just a poorer, more white trash, and less successful version of Patrick S Tomlinson.

No child, I am not obese by any medical standards. No child, I am not gay, but I am "into things" that are beyond your Nazi understanding. No child, I have never lost a lawsuit, these are your delusions again, Robert. Your life is now over, enjoy Wegmans.

 

[CHARizard]

Okay I return from my local grocery store a Safeway, about a 15 minute drive away in a town of under 5k people. There is a second grocery store close by, but if I wanted anything else I would need to drive at least 30 minutes away. So lets begin.

So this is the standard cheddar shelf, it has the cheddar and parm. Nothing really of note this stuff is available everywhere.



And heres the foreign cheese bins. As you can see theres a lot to choose from, a lot of stuff I just do not even recognize.


And heres what I bought!


So lets break this down a bit.

Old Croc, I have had this before. Its cheddar, is super sharp, its from Australia, and its delicious. Price $7.99

Ricotta Salata Cheese. Never had this but I am eager to try it out. Always looking for a good sheeps cheese that does not use any cow milk. Imported from Italy, price $7.97

Taleggio, made in Italy. No idea what this is, its been packaged twice for some reason. Price $11.99

Beechers Marco Polo pepper cheese, made in USA, looked tasty. Price $9.99

Red Wax Gouda, imported from Holland. Price $8.49

Alouette Goat Cheese crumbles, another pure goats milk cheese, made in USA, price $6.49

Babybel plant based white cheddar. I can almost guarentee this tastes bad. Made in a Jewish laboratory, price your soul and $7.49
For context, I always pick up any new vegan cheeses I see. We have a severe dairy allergy in the family so I am always looking at the alternatives.

Anyways I hope this was enlightening for some Euros, we do have access to your nations greatest treasures here in the states, even in dinky little towns.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

I hope you don’t go to A&N then. Any thread there that’s even tangentially connected to abortion has her immediately in there screeching about it so much that I’m sure it’s her fetish.

Her and @Lidl Drip are both raging radical feminists who unironically think all heterosexual sex is rape. @Android raptor is slightly more excusable because she genuinely has some developmental impairment (and sometimes has some common sense takes) while Lidl Drip is Eur*pean and a Zoomer

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If anyone is ever in the Milwaukee area, LaClare Creamery, just a 1.5 hour drive north from Milwaukee, is a must visit. They have goats you can pet as well as an amazing cafe along with their cheese shop.

Conveniently along the way is also the Cedar Valley Cheese factory and store that has the most amazingly fresh cheese curds and REAL string cheese.

Both of these places also sell local meat (beef, pork, and goat).

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

We're not mad, just a bit cheesed off.

You have been waiting all thread to use that haven't you?

 

[quaawaa]

I have a recipe for Japanese milk bread, where you make a simple roux (tangzhong) that you add to the rest of the ingredients in your machine. From the recipe: "Bringing the temperature of the flour and liquid to 65°C (149°F) pre-gelatinizes the flour’s starches, which makes them more able to retain liquid — thus enhancing the resulting bread's softness and shelf life."

Unfortunately, Japanese milk bread is far too sweet for the delicate European palette.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

I'm just appending on that on top of paying more for less and worse food, you also pay the gas tax to get there.

"Nooooooo slopper-child, the food is BAD not GOOD, and you must pay MORE for LESS food and you have to DRIVE to get it! Enjoy McDonalds slopper!"

 

[Tour of Italy]

Posting these because it's low hanging fruit and nobody else has.

Cheese Wars:

 

[Garlic Salt]

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This video proved to me that Euros can have just as shitty food practices as Americans.

Bitch just puts raw ground beef on bread and then covers it over with cheese. Revolting.

All of that beef in all of that olive oil. What the actual fuck.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Okay I return from my local grocery store a Safeway, about a 15 minute drive away in a town of under 5k people. There is a second grocery store close by, but if I wanted anything else I would need to drive at least 30 minutes away. So lets begin.

So this is the standard cheddar shelf, it has the cheddar and parm. Nothing really of note this stuff is available everywhere.
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And heres the foreign cheese bins. As you can see theres a lot to choose from, a lot of stuff I just do not even recognize.
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And heres what I bought!
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So lets break this down a bit.

Old Croc, I have had this before. Its cheddar, is super sharp, its from Australia, and its delicious. Price $7.99

Ricotta Salata Cheese. Never had this but I am eager to try it out. Always looking for a good sheeps cheese that does not use any cow milk. Imported from Italy, price $7.97

Taleggio, made in Italy. No idea what this is, its been packaged twice for some reason. Price $11.99

Beechers Marco Polo pepper cheese, made in USA, looked tasty. Price $9.99

Red Wax Gouda, imported from Holland. Price $8.49

Alouette Goat Cheese crumbles, another pure goats milk cheese, made in USA, price $6.49

Babybel plant based white cheddar. I can almost guarentee this tastes bad. Made in a Jewish laboratory, price your soul and $7.49
For context, I always pick up any new vegan cheeses I see. We have a severe dairy allergy in the family so I am always looking at the alternatives.

Anyways I hope this was enlightening for some Euros, we do have access to your nations greatest treasures here in the states, even in dinky little towns.

You realize we've been making this argument the entire time knowing all of this. I've said what I've said even with this same mental picture of the cheese aisle at the supermarket. It's really not the same thing as what you get in Europe, and the flavor of the cheeses is going to be stronger and better. Cheese sold in America tends to be rather mild.

A lot of these are big companies making cheese for the everyman, and Americans tend not to like anything pungent or too strong. In Europe they make cheeses that are cultural staples with way stronger flavor.

I don't think it's been emphasized enough but the general food culture in Europe is just way better. Easier access to open-air markets, a lot of people that own houses have rather impressive gardens, people snack on shit that may seem strange in America but is way healthier for you. The good stuff is way more universal and culturally appreciated.

There's a lot of things Europeans fail at--they generally have no concept of "spicy food," and they are confused by herbs like cilantro, but meat, cheese, and bread is just simply way better and way easier to get. Like, the good quality stuff in Europe is on the street corners, in America, you have to hunt it down or go to a specialized or European bakery.

 

[Tablet County]

british people are animals, barely human. they have no culture.

WRONG. British culture consists of putting things in museums that do not belong to them, boiling ground beef, and oppressing anything that so much as looks Fenian.

 

[Reverend]

Her and @Lidl Drip are both raging radical feminists who unironically think all heterosexual sex is rape. @Android raptor is slightly more excusable because she genuinely has some developmental impairment (and sometimes has some common sense takes) while Lidl Drip is Eur*pean and a Zoomer

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If anyone is ever in the Milwaukee area, LaClare Creamery, just a 1.5 hour drive north from Milwaukee, is a must visit. They have goats you can pet as well as an amazing cafe along with their cheese shop.
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Conveniently along the way is also the Cedar Valley Cheese factory and store that has the most amazingly fresh cheese curds and REAL string cheese.
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Both of these places also sell local meat (beef, pork, and goat).

Amazing what you can find if you get out of your shithole apartment and explore the surrounding areas in your county/state. SHOCKING! what one finds when they go outside and get the fuck off the internet and drive just to fucking drive.
We need to fund Dear Feeder's return to the states with a motorcycle expedition to go Coast-2-Coast and North-2-South (US 1 is a good deal, can see dear ole mom) to see what you find when you travel off the beaten path.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

WRONG. British culture consists of putting things in museums that do not belong to them, boiling ground beef, and oppressing anything that so much as looks Fenian.

British people made the best rock and other genres of music for quite awhile (no contest at all) until American rap music took over, so I hesitate to bash the limeys outright despite how generally insufferable they can be.

 

[Dyn]

LOL at the people in this thread insisting Null is wrong then immediately linking their favorite bread recipe or talking about a fucking bread machine

I liked when people argued that Null is wrong because you can get good meat in America by hunting and killing it yourself. Americans simply cannot understand that people in other countries can buy a plastic-wrapped loaf of cheap white supermarket bread and pre-sliced cheese and processed lunch sausage and it doesn't all taste like sugar and embalming chemicals.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I liked when people argued that Null is wrong because you can get good meat in America by hunting and killing it yourself. Americans simply cannot understand that people in other countries can buy a plastic-wrapped loaf of cheap white supermarket bread and pre-sliced cheese and processed lunch sausage and it doesn't all taste like sugar and embalming chemicals.

You'd think obesity rates in America vs. Europe would clue them in.

 

[Dyn]

You'd think obesity rates in America vs. Europe would clue them in.

Obesity rates don't indicate anything except how many pacific islanders are living in your country.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

As we crest page 100 I would like to remind everyone that Null has been BTFO'd on every single one of his asinine arguments several times over

He and his Europoor titsuckers can move goalposts and cope till Christ comes home, it will not change this fact