Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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Sixty pages of ameramutts coping and arguing about details and semantic without getting the bigger picture: "actually we also have kraft permesan!!!"; "in Wisconsin", "we have some baguettes cooked in the supermarket", etc.

The situation is roughly the same in Canada enven if maybe slightly better: most people just do not know how what good food is or do not know how cheap it is suppose to be. Knowing nothing about cheese, they believe that they have variety or that it is legit to pay 5 dollars for a the cheapest Brie — it is 1 euros in France. Artisanal Bread and artisanal cheese are words sounding bougie to most North-Americans' ear, when it is just normal people food elsewhere.

What even worse is that we used to have good food. Here in Canada, it is probably car culture and supermarkets who compleltely ruined the way that we approach food if you want my opinion. Why have a local cheese maker when I can drive to Walmart and get some?
 
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I don't have to prove anything to you dumb nigger. Farmers markets exist and so do refrigerators fucking retard. Cheese can be shipped all over, how fucking stupid are you Euro-sisters? Did the Somalis rape you into mental retardation before even fully taking over your country? I can get any cheese I want, and all the free range, grass fed, hormone free, antibiotic free meat I want from local farmers selling there meat and eggs at local markets. Null is on a hard cope tour, washing down his runny mayo pizza with shots of Frank's Red hot. Eurotrash is so desperate to try and be better then Americans, but food is all they have left. Fucking pathetic.
 
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Null said:
Americans do not have access to real cheese
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Jersh, doesn't america have a couple of different types of blue cheese?
Maytag is one of them, never ate ot because we italians have a superior product in the form of gorgonzola, but I guess it counts.
Despite that, fuck cheddar, the 3/4 types of actual american cheese will never make up for cheddar's very own existence.
Also fuck macaroni: that is a bastard cut of pasta that isn't sold in italy.
You may be able to find on the internet pictures of italian pasta labelled "macaroni" or "maccheroni", but it's either the wrong shape (more usually sedani lisci or tortiglioni) or the smooth, C shaped abomination that you won't find on the shelves.
 
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Jersh, doesn't america have a couple of different types of blue cheese?
Maytag is one of them, never ate ot because we italians have a superior product in the form of gorgonzola, but I guess it counts.
Despite that, fuck cheddar, the 3/4 types of actual american cheese will never make up for cheddar's very own existence.
Also fuck macaroni: that is a bastard cut of pasta that isn't sold in italy.
You may be able to find on the internet pictures of italian pasta labelled "macaroni" or "maccheroni", but it's either the wrong shape (more usually sedani lisci or tortiglioni) or the smooth, C shaped abomination that you won't find on the shelves.
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Pasta-niggers have never recovered from us fixing pizza into something edible.
 
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JamusActimus said:
Mutts just can't really judge what good bread and cheese is since they never tried.

Even euro goy slop is miles ahead of American goy slop.

Niggas have a piece of yellow plastic and call that American cheese.

Most of their bread in the grocery store don't even have yeast.
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We can absolutely judge, just as we judge our fellow Americans who live like adult children and never grow past sweet drank and $1 McDonald's borgars.
The bread I buy, from Walmart even:
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I don't typically buy cheese because it's for jiggleniggers but I will occasionally seek out yoghurt when I need an extra boost of protein (also from Walmart)



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If I were to buy cheese though, the deli counter has plenty of decent stuff like Boar's Head and if I really felt like acting like a faggot about dried chunks of milk, I could go around the corner to the local butcher who has a respectable selection of rarer items, second only to the wine snob store. And I'm not in some big ass coastal city. So, if America has so much quality, why do so many people eat like shit? Price and availability.
If whatever gay Euro nanny state you live in were to suddenly shift and start pumping out processed garbage, a nearly identical proportion of your population would be right there for seconds on the Frito Pie.
But since Europe hasn't started mass producing shitty food, "organic" (normal) food is the cheaper option, particularly in less developed countries. It's not some virtuous quality of the Europoor that Americans magically lack, it's price and availability.
But the real life hack (((they))) don't want Americans to know, you can very easily choose quality over quantity. There's nothing stopping even a section 8 nigger from eating healthy with their food stamps. But when you have a 300 pound corpulent mass to keep fueled, sacrifices must apparently be made.
 
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Gian-Luca Caluga said:
66 Pages of American Cheese, my God.

Right, quite apart from Null's yelling—which is all correct—why can't I get a decent pie when I'm in the former colonies? You cunts call pizzas pies, which is spacker central. Pies have lids. Can't get a decent meat and potato for love nor money over there.
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We stopped grinding up organ meat and stuffing it into pie crust out of desperation not to starve.
 
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@Null, your entire rant had made me think of this excerpt from a 1937 book "Little Golden America: two famous Soviet humorists survey these United States". (I think it was even recommended on MATI before)

Generally speaking, New York is remarkable because it has everything. There you can find the representatives of any nation, secure any dish, any object from an embroidered Ukrainian shirt to a Chinese stick with a bone handle in the shape of a hand, which is used for back-scratching, from Russian caviare and vodka to Chilean soup and Italian macaroni. There are no delicacies in the world that New York cannot offer. But for all of it one must pay in dollars. And we want to talk about the preponderant majority of Americans who can pay only cents and for whom exist Childs, cafeterias, and automats. When describing the latter establishments, we can boldly declare that this is how the average American is fed. Under this concept of the average American is presupposed a man who has a decent job and a decent salary and who from the point of view of capitalism is an example of the healthy prospering American, happy and optimistic, who receives all the blessings of life at a comparatively low price.
The splendid organization of the restaurant business seems to confirm that. Model cleanliness, good quality of produce, an extensive choice of dishes, a minimum of time lost in dining. All that is so. But here is the trouble. All this beautifully prepared food is quite tasteless—colourless in taste. It is not injurious to the stomach. It is most likely even of benefit to it. But it does not present man with any delights, any gustatory satisfaction. When you select in the closets of the automat or on the counter of the cafeteria an attractive piece of roast, and then eat it at your table, having shoved your hat under your chair, you feel like a buyer of shoes which proved to be more handsome than substantial. Americans are used to it. They eat fast, without wasting a single extra minute at the table. They do not eat; they fill up on food, just as an automobile is filled with petrol. The French gourmet who can sit four hours at a dinner, chewing each piece of meat in exultation, washing it down with wine and then smacking every mouthful of coffee with cognac—he is, of course, no model man. But the cold American eater, bereft of the natural human desire to get some satisfaction out of food, evokes amazement.
For a long time we could not understand why American dishes, so appetizing in appearance, are so unappealing in taste. At first we thought the Americans simply do not know how to cook. But then we learned that that alone is not the point: the crux of the matter is in the organization itself, in the very essence of the American economic system. Americans eat a blindingly white but utterly tasteless bread, frozen meat, salty butter, unripe tomatoes, and canned goods.
How does it happen that the richest country in the world, a country of grain growers and cattle raisers, of gold and remarkable industry, a country which has sufficient resources to create a paradise, cannot give the people tasty bread, fresh meat, real butter, and ripe tomatoes?
Near New York we saw waste places overgrown with weeds, forsaken plots of earth. No one sowed grain there, no one raised cattle there. We saw there neither setting hens with chicks nor truck gardens.
"You see," we were told, "it simply would not pay. We cannot compete here with the monopolists from the West."
Somewhere in Chicago, in the slaughter-houses, they kill cattle and transport the meat throughout the country in frozen form. From somewhere in California they ship frozen chickens, and green tomatoes which are supposed to ripen in transit. And no one dares to challenge the mighty monopolists to a fight.
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It's a very long gay argument on what amounts to the fact most food being loaded up on preservatives or hormones and goes through mistreatment that ruins the taste. In the end it depends where you live and how lazy you are on getting fresh food.

I do wonder if there is connection between this and Niggers eating cornstarch thread, where people use tons of spices on food because it has no taste by itself.
 
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After doing some cursory scouting of the local markets, it seems the options for "real" sandwich meats are pretty slim. Out of the two dozen or so options at the nearest deli counter, only two of them are actual whole roasted hams and possibly one whole roasted turkey (I'm trying that one next week). Everything else is composite processed meat product as far as I can tell. Cheese options aren't much more expansive - swiss, baby swiss (which is apparently made with whole milk, so it has that going for it at least), cheddar, provolone, muenster, and of course, "American" pasteurized cheese product goyslop... I think that's it. Ignoring the bread aisle (which is all various brands of wonder bread-esque machine-made sliced bread), the bakery does make french baguettes, sourdough, and marbled rye everyday, which is what I choose from whenever any of that is in stock. There is a mom n pop German goods market on the other side of town that I know imports a lot of its products. The owners are German immigrants who make various kinds of eastern European tube-meats with old world recipes to the best of their ability with whatever ingredients they can import or get domestically. Beats the hell out of the meats available at the other grocery store's meat departments, but I can't speak to their authenticity and I'm not watching how the sausage is made, so... who knows. They also have a deli counter so I'm trying them for my lunch meats next week and I'll see if they've got anything that compares better to the handful of real ham options I've got down the road from me.
 
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