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Rural california. We try to pretend the cities don't exist and they pretend we don't exist except when they need to plunder our natural resources.
Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.
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FYI, good cheddar cheese should be crunchy and crumbly
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People have different ideas about bread and meat. I spent a few weeks working in Holland last year. One day, the guys in the office got me a lunch of crusty bread smeared with a pate of onion, capers, pepper, a bit of garlic, and a lot of raw beef. They eat it all the time, apparently.
They call their raw beef delicacy Filet Americain.
They call their raw beef delicacy Filet Americain.
Good-quality Cheshire cheese is world-class.
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Looks like about half the states do. Never heard of the token thing though
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I wouldn't necessarily say crunchy but definitely crumbly and irregular in texture. In fact, it literally isn't even cheddar if it isn't, because the cheddaring process guarantees that result. If it's uniform in texture, obviously cheddaring was not done and the result should be denied the name.
My current favorites are Stilton (yes I know I keep bringing it up), Wensleydale, Cheddar (of course), Stinking Bishop (yes I tried it just because of the name), Double Gloucester, a few others. Also there's a really great gimmick cheese called Huntsman that is Double Gloucester layered with Stilton. White Stilton also takes well to additions like fruit. White Stilton with apricots is really nice.
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Went to Sprouts nearby and was able to find plenty of cheeses and meats that would meet (most of) Null’s requirements. Alas, I live in a place with over 30K people, so this might get disregarded anyway.
So much cheese
They even have raw cheddar made in the US. Yes, it’s USDA inspected, but those are the rules for retail like this.
There’s even paneer made in California if you want to eat like a pajeet.
Some French cheeses, if you’re into that
A crap ton of goat cheese flavors
Even more cheese. Yeah, the prices are a bit higher, but a lot of the stuff is imported.
There’s local milk here too. Yes, Arizona can produce its own milk and it’s delicious
There are meats that aren’t Boar’s Head. Yes, it’s wrapped in plastic, but you can’t win everything
There’s a lot of grass fed meat too.
And there’s even bison and lamb
There was a lot of fresh bread too, but since I didn’t grind the wheat myself, knead it into dough, and bake it, it doesn’t count at all. Maybe Euros have the better bread, but unlike Euros, I don’t have the patience to buy fresh bread every single day. I have better things to do than spend every day or every other day buying bread.
So much cheese
They even have raw cheddar made in the US. Yes, it’s USDA inspected, but those are the rules for retail like this.
There’s even paneer made in California if you want to eat like a pajeet.
Some French cheeses, if you’re into that
A crap ton of goat cheese flavors
Even more cheese. Yeah, the prices are a bit higher, but a lot of the stuff is imported.
There’s local milk here too. Yes, Arizona can produce its own milk and it’s delicious
There are meats that aren’t Boar’s Head. Yes, it’s wrapped in plastic, but you can’t win everything
There’s a lot of grass fed meat too.
And there’s even bison and lamb
There was a lot of fresh bread too, but since I didn’t grind the wheat myself, knead it into dough, and bake it, it doesn’t count at all. Maybe Euros have the better bread, but unlike Euros, I don’t have the patience to buy fresh bread every single day. I have better things to do than spend every day or every other day buying bread.
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A great cheddar should have just the right whiff of the barnyard about it. Nothing too off putting, just enough to remind that it indeed came from a cow and not a laboratory. Various locations in Scotland produce some excellent examples, with the Isle of Mull topping my personal power ranking.
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I just bought both cilantro and cheddar at the supermarket, and thinking about this thread while checking out made me smirk.
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Cilantro is one of my favorite spices and it goes well in so many things. Parsley, what it can occasionally get mistaken for, isn’t that great and generally pretty bitter. Don’t get why so many people like parsley.
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yuros are so fucking dumb sometimes… smh.
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Halal and kosher butchers offer you some leeway with fresh meat, provided you're able to find an independent butcher shop. It definitely ain't perfect, though. I trust Hebrew National about as much as Oscar Mayer, that is to say basically not at all.
Specialty cheeses are super annoying and expensive to come across, but they do exist.
Fresh bread being baked daily is possible to come across at specialty bakeries, but again, super fucking annoying and expensive to find.
The motherland's a terrible place for a whitewashed coconut like me, but god DAMN I miss having fresh, hearty food from the village.
Specialty cheeses are super annoying and expensive to come across, but they do exist.
Fresh bread being baked daily is possible to come across at specialty bakeries, but again, super fucking annoying and expensive to find.
The motherland's a terrible place for a whitewashed coconut like me, but god DAMN I miss having fresh, hearty food from the village.
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Nigger, Cheddar cheese is English, from Somerset. It's as American as Roquefort.
The French aren't importing American "cheddar"; they are importing English Cheddar. No Hydrogenated Palm Oil and bright orange food dye.
Pic rel: Amerimutt "cheddar"
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I live in a town of under 5,000 people in rural America. I can get fresh bread from the local supermarket’s bakery, a much more expensive local place, or make it myself. The main place I do my grocery shopping is a budget outlet-type store that stocks a wide variety of products, including many kinds of cheese. I eat very little cheese so I can’t say how good the selection is but I’ve seen a lot of imported stuff, goat/sheep cheese, aged cheeses, etc alongside the typical cheddar and Swiss.
Local meat is the hardest, but doable. Aforementioned outlet store sometimes carries local stuff in their surprisingly good meat section. There is a ranch that raises and sells their own meat on site (I’m not sure where they actually slaughter it) less than an hour away from me. That may sound far but where I live practically every family will occasionally travel that far to the closest place that qualifies to a city to visit Costco (also has a good variety of cheese btw), the DMV, etc. Most people who live in extremely rural places do this; an “average American” certainly has access to a town of 30,000+ people in case they’re that desperate to find a cheese store or bakery. An hour away in a different direction I can go to a fishing town and buy fish that was literally in the ocean that morning (though not during the winter). Where I used to live (which was less rural but still not a major city), we had a small slaughterhouse and butcher where they had a USDA inspector come in once a week for their slaughter, the meat was then sold to local butcher shops or cut and sold on site. Also, a lot of people that live in rural places like this hunt (and/or fish) and thus have game meat.
Farmer’s markets almost always have local meat and fresh baked bread in addition to the fresh produce, but can be pretty expensive. Some farmer’s markets have local dairies and/or cheese makers show up but that depends on if the area produces cheese and dairy. Eggs have also been mentioned, I can get local, fresh, free range eggs from the farmer’s market, local chicken-owners on Craigslist, or occasionally the outlet store.
TLDR I live in the middle of nowhere, several hours from an urban center, and can get local meat, fresh eggs, fancy cheese, and fresh-baked bread. If someone lives more rurally than this, they’re likely off grid and thus have bigger problems than not being able to find Gruyère.
Local meat is the hardest, but doable. Aforementioned outlet store sometimes carries local stuff in their surprisingly good meat section. There is a ranch that raises and sells their own meat on site (I’m not sure where they actually slaughter it) less than an hour away from me. That may sound far but where I live practically every family will occasionally travel that far to the closest place that qualifies to a city to visit Costco (also has a good variety of cheese btw), the DMV, etc. Most people who live in extremely rural places do this; an “average American” certainly has access to a town of 30,000+ people in case they’re that desperate to find a cheese store or bakery. An hour away in a different direction I can go to a fishing town and buy fish that was literally in the ocean that morning (though not during the winter). Where I used to live (which was less rural but still not a major city), we had a small slaughterhouse and butcher where they had a USDA inspector come in once a week for their slaughter, the meat was then sold to local butcher shops or cut and sold on site. Also, a lot of people that live in rural places like this hunt (and/or fish) and thus have game meat.
Farmer’s markets almost always have local meat and fresh baked bread in addition to the fresh produce, but can be pretty expensive. Some farmer’s markets have local dairies and/or cheese makers show up but that depends on if the area produces cheese and dairy. Eggs have also been mentioned, I can get local, fresh, free range eggs from the farmer’s market, local chicken-owners on Craigslist, or occasionally the outlet store.
TLDR I live in the middle of nowhere, several hours from an urban center, and can get local meat, fresh eggs, fancy cheese, and fresh-baked bread. If someone lives more rurally than this, they’re likely off grid and thus have bigger problems than not being able to find Gruyère.
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El Comandante (is way fucking late to this game and) lives in an area where there are so many metric fucktons of cows that there are areas with warning signs to watch for cows while driving. (And you thought hitting a deer would fuck your car! And yes, plenty of deer too, I've seen the aftermath of a truck whacking a deer.) Anyway, all the cows get shipped to a central slaughterhouse in godbear knows where to be centrally processed. There IS, however, a butcher who sells local meat without having to buy a whole cow, according to locals I've talked to. I haven't been in there yet to check it out, though. Yep, in a land where there are so many cows that El Comandante has to put chicken wire around the Fort's solar panels and water cistern barrels so the cows don't fuck them up there is ONE small butcher selling local beef. No dairies here, so milk and cheese all come from elsewhere.
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This reads like a quest from a video game. Can you locate and photograph this butcher of legend?
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The butcher lives in a cabin outside of the village. I can lead you there for ten gp, but I won't engage in any combat if you encounter any brigands (or worse)!
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Oh oh oh what's that? Do my ears deceive me? Is that the cries of a coping Eurosimp desperately trying to use nuance, a French word btw (that means by the way), because he can't stand that America, fuck yeah, stole someone else's idea and made it 10 times better and offered it up pre grated or sliced? Would you feel better if I cooked my grilled cheese the French way by using enough butter and wine to kill even Paula Deen? I can drive to ANY grocery store and get everything I need because I live in America, fuck yeah!
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