Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[The Blue Morpho]

I'm well aware of what is in American gas stations, and what is in European petrol stations. I'm starting by just comparing the deadass cheapest options. There's no contest.

"Our food is better because I like it"

 

[demicolon]

Europe has palm oil butter, hamburger cheese, soy flour spongy toast bread and meat products that are 20% meat and 80% filler you can buy in every supermarket, too.

The only difference is that Europe bans most of the garbage food additives USA permits to poison people for profit.

 

[rochokenko]

I'll add that not only is Null correct, but he's actually not going far enough. I went to another country and had a fucking salad and I was floored by their damn lettuce. The fucking lettuce of all things alone was infinitely more flavorful than anything in the states. Forget meats and cheeses, not even our simplest and most basic of foods are real.

lot armcan food us oil into it. personaly don't fall into real foods after next yr people grow to point whating real food in all.

Europe has palm oil butter, hamburger cheese, soy flour spongy toast bread and meat products that are 20% meat and 80% filler you can buy in every supermarket, too.

The only difference is that Europe bans most of the garbage food additives USA permits to poison people for profit.

clear 5 to 2% food rast filler.90% that chage up a bit after what real going be need for real food in all.

 

[DumbDude43]

lot armcan food us oil into it. personaly don't fall into real foods after next yr people grow to point whating real food in all.

are you having a stroke

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

Unreal how even the most hardcore, anti-Government, anti-Corporate American will suddenly become its most fervent defender the moment their living conditions are called into question. No idea what pavlovian conditioning was done to you guys to yield that type of kneejerk patriotism, but I dont think this level of psychological damage can ever be undone.

Null is literally praising EU anti-competition policies

 

[DumbDude43]

Does anyone think that null is just obviously right and the only opposition to his post is because people are sick of faggy smug Europeans bashing America on reddit? If you guys don't think European bread/cheese/meat is better, is there anything you'd be willing to consider Europe does better at all, culturally or otherwise?

france and italy obviously have far superior cuisine than america
it's just more a result of how people cook, rather than "burgers have no bread bread and meat xD" clown takes

 

[Return of the Freaker]

None of this matters because black people taught cumskins how to meat cheese n brayuhd. DAS RIIIIIIIIITE

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

This has been one of the funnest things that's happened to the site in what feels like a long time and I will do everything in my power to continue it.

From typing in "European cheeses" into a search engine the very first result is the top ten cheeses in Europe

https://www.tasteatlas.com/most-popular-cheeses-in-europe

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/KXl6K

and what is the second most popular cheese in all of Europe?

and what is the most popular hard cheese in all of Europe?

https://www.tasteatlas.com/most-popular-hard-cheeses-in-europe

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/gVtZu

Such a rare and exotic cheese that I must drive an hour out of my way and into hostile territory to obtain!

Americhads I'm tired of all this winning! There are no new worlds to conquer, no new mouths to feed cheese burgers to, nor new cheeses to obtain. It's so lonely up at the top. If only europoors didn't love our cheese that we stole from the British. Oh how will we sleep at night knowing our grocery aisles are filled with sliced bread (the greatest thing ever) and the most popular of cheeses? What will the starving children of Europe do because Americhads horde one of their favorite cheeses? Poor Gunther weeps knowing that he has to slice and eat his bread within two days or it'll rot in the cabinet and the rats will come. Won't you donate a dollar or even a manual typewriter to help him for your only hope for a future?

 

[The Blue Morpho]

A lot of Belgian beers are brewed using wild yeast which produces a different and interesting flavor profile vs. the standardized brewer's yeast strains used in most US beers. I have also never been able to find a single US pilsner that is remotely as good as the OG from Czechia.

Plus it's nice not having all IPAs all the time like most craft brewers in the US. I don't even think those are that good but for some reason that's like 75% of the selection no matter where you are. Plus, sours like Berliner Weisse or Gose are almost impossible to find domestically.

Wisconsin chads stay winning, one of the only states in the union with a comparable beer culture. At least one brewery in every town and they make very delicious sours, pilsners, etc, not just IPAs. I love Pilsner Urquell too but damned if New Glarus Two Women doesn't hold its own against it.

You get some of that elsewhere. Colorado for example has a higher than average brewery density, but that's probably just because of all the midwest/Sconnie transplants bringing the culture with them. And even then its like you say, most places with anything resembling a beer culture are obsessed with IPAs.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I feel like this is morphing from “Can Americans get quality meats and cheeses” to Europeans have a better food culture. Broadly I say they do, but the actual answer is it depends. American food culture got skullfucked by Prohibition, FDR encouraging scummy practices, and then mass manufacturing during Pax Americana. It wouldn’t get better until Julia Childs, the big bitch herself (pbuh), publically showed how easy a clumsy 10ft tall natal woman could make good French food.

Also @Null Kraft cheese isn’t even truly American, may Allah forgive me for uttering this but it was made by Satan’s corruption of an American, a Canadian.

 

[VeeAndro]

Comparing that to the smoked sausage in Europe? Oh ho ho, that's blasphemy, sir.

He's talking about The South. We have a lot of entirely locally owned (as in, not even out of a particular town) that are fronts for smokehouses. These are businesses, which have existed for nearly a century in some cases, that are being accused of not existing and requiring inter-county trips. The one thing I have to concede on is the availability of rich, aromatic cheese. BUT, I also do not accept the general ubiquity in all of Europe for open air cheese shops and in super markets, the cheeses are not on poplar wheels. Still, there are few brick and mortar cheese shops in America and most people don't want to ask the creamery to make them a special batch. Even then, I have no idea if they would know anything other than standard cheese types and if they would have the same aromas.

I don't care; it's what I'M saying. Defend it, and stop blindly defending your government that hates you and wants you dead.

Defend what? I have not read anybody, least of all me, defending the federal government. I have heard Null defend the CCP multiple times, of course. I'm sure it's better.

 

[Garamok]

This has been one of the funnest things that's happened to the site in what feels like a long time and I will do everything in my power to continue it.

From typing in "European cheeses" into a search engine the very first result is the top ten cheeses in Europe

https://www.tasteatlas.com/most-popular-cheeses-in-europe

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/KXl6K

and what is the second most popular cheese in all of Europe?
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and what is the most popular hard cheese in all of Europe?

https://www.tasteatlas.com/most-popular-hard-cheeses-in-europe

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/gVtZu

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Such a rare and exotic cheese that I must drive an hour out of my way and into hostile territory to obtain!

Americhads I'm tired of all this winning! There are no new worlds to conquer, no new mouths to feed cheese burgers to, nor new cheeses to obtain. It's so lonely up at the top. If only europoors didn't love our cheese that we stole from the British. Oh how will we sleep at night knowing our grocery aisles are filled with sliced bread (the greatest thing ever) and the most popular of cheeses? What will the starving children of Europe do because Americhads horde one of their favorite cheeses? Poor Gunther weeps knowing that he has to slice and eat his bread within two days or it'll rot in the cabinet and the rats will come. Won't you donate a dollar or even a manual typewriter to help him for your only hope for a future?

Odd, when I look in German cheddar doesn't get mentioned. This article is from June this year and Cheddar isn't in it.

Edit: let's keep looking: no cheddar in this one, no cheddar here, no cheddar in here either... maybe cheddar isn't real. Oh wait, what do we have here? Cheddar gets mentioned when it comes to English cheese which nobody fucking eats outside of England. Nobody fucking imports English cheese either. Cheese gets imported from Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Greece, Italy, France and Cyprus. Nobody cares about your stupid goyslop cheese.

 

[Rose Breeder]

No matter how much you praise and revere Europeans and their ways Lord Feeder, you will never be one of them. You should accept the inalienable truth that God forged you into a red-blooded American and cease deluding yourself with this demented inferiority complex after a mere brief stay at the most destitute, disheveled corner of the old continent.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Poor Gunther

Gunther will never smash Austrian neutrality because he's too busy cutting bread smh

 

[retard safari]

If we're going USA v Europe here I will have to assert that I have not been to Europe, I have met Europeans though, so I will judge the entire continent by my experience

All the Euro's I've met had incredibly bland tastes. In particular Eastern Europe ones. Everything they made or liked was absolutely smothered in 'mayo which they seem to genetically crave. I cannot understand it, it is disgusting and I tried not to vomit. Tons of cheese, tons of mayo, just disgusting. And people call us Amerilards. Somehow, none of them were fat, despite eating pounds of literal fat slime

Any kind of seasoning -- apart from basic bitch stuff -- too spicy, to the point where they couldn't eat it

If that's the official cuisine of the ethnostate, I don't want it

Also obsessed with the status of various things. Like you have to eat this with that and it has to be this specific cheese to go with this meal. Like why. Culture I guess. ONLY this type of champagne goes with fish, none other will do. Don't even get me started on the rabid consumerism of former commie block residents. Need Apple iPhone 16++, need mercedez-benz, need calvin-klein. The glorious dream of the Soviet ideologues backfired horribly and created a bunch of brand-obsessed consoomers.

I just don't get it. I've been told again and again that food is just better in Euroland (it just is, OK?!). Maybe the quality of ingredients is better -- but the stuff they make with it, not to my taste, and I find their need for name-brand consumer goods tacky.

 

[demicolon]

Yes ONE of the multiple cheeses from America was cheddar. Did someone you love as a child choke to death on a piece of cheddar? Is it because you haven't been allowed to make money you resent the cheddar? I don't understand.

Josh's crusade against cheddar reminds me of Lovecraft crafting his horror stories around the New England octopuses and manta rays he was forced to eat as a child.

 

[Marvin]

I love how every single cuisine brought to the United States by immigrants is made better than the original, period.

The best the world had to offer went to the new world.

Like compare modern Japanese with Japanese Brazilians. The former are weird perverts slowly feminizing and going extinct and the latter are cattle ranchers in the fucking Amazon. Or Alberto Fujimori was a batshit fascist dictator in Peru, accused of crimes against humanity. But it doesn't matter because his daughter is big in politics in Peru anyway and she's quite popular.

Or take Germans. In Europe they're either neurotic nazis or neurotic leftist pedophiles. In America, they're a huge chunk of our ethnic heritage, they were cattlemen in Texas and are generally hearty, salt of the earth people.

I made meatloaf last night and it was nice. Sometimes you just have to enjoy the bugs life gives you.

Meatloaf is a fantastic American dish. It's poor people food, designed to stretch meat, but it's delicious, not gross like some poor people food, and it always evokes good memories of childhood.

 

[Garamok]

Wanna know how non goyslop enjoyers eat cheese? We buy something like this:

then buy cheese, different kinds of sausages and meat, some red wine, some bread and enjoy a wonderful dinner:

you can also dip the sausage in mustard while enjoying some good cheese that had matured for a good while.


There is more to cheese than just cheddar or some sad burger ingredient.

 

[Ealen]

It's been a while since I've been to the US so I can't really comment other than to say that kraft singles are peak goyslop

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Also obsessed with the status of various things. Like you have to eat this with that and it has to be this specific cheese to go with this meal. Like why. Culture I guess. ONLY this type of champagne goes with fish, none other will do. Don't even get me started on the rabid consumerism of former commie block residents. Need Apple iPhone 16++, need mercedez-benz, need calvin-klein. The glorious dream of the Soviet ideologues backfired horribly and created a bunch of brand-obsessed consoomers.

I just don't get it. I've been told again and again that food is just better in Euroland (it just is, OK?!). Maybe the quality of ingredients is better -- but the stuff they make with it, not to my taste, and I find their need for name-brand consumer goods tacky.

There is a quaint charm to a thick food culture, which I cannot deny is the antithesis of SLOP; that is:

Standardized
Low Effort
On Demand
Product

Nana Babushka's special borscht recipe that's been passed down through generations and is only made on this specific obscure holiday and served with this one kind of special sawdust bread is food with context and meaning and history and if this is the only thing Europeans can gloat about, well, they still have a point.

But instead, they insist that NOOOOO slopper-child, the bland bean and pheasant porridge that my dirt-kicking serf ancestors ate as they toiled on Count Slavostein's manor is not just descended from a rich and meaningful food tradition, but it is ALSO better and more delicious than anything you can get in the imperial core of the world's dominant superpower! Enjoy Walmart, slopper!