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by that logic switzerland is a coastal country because it has access to a river that connects to the sea
Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.
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I don't know why people think Destin, Florida (the highest median income in the entire country, at least when I lived there) didn't have whole foods or other grocery stores. They just didn't have the same selection of cheese and meat that Europe does. Nor the variety of fresh bread. Simple as. Like I can't really overstate how bougie the area is. It's just that Americans are basic bitches.
Cheddarheads tripping over themselves to try and score any win at this point.
The distance between Switzerland's Thur river to the NORTH SEA is 760 miles and entirely through foreign coutnries, as opposed to the 45 mile distance through fucking Delaware which is really nothing considering the port is right fucking there. But even then, Switzerland does in fact have the highest QoL in the EU and access to phenomenal cheese.
Cheddarheads tripping over themselves to try and score any win at this point.
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Would you be willing then to agree that most rural cities with an amish population would have comparable access like what you experienced in Europe?
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I wouldn't know, but if I had to guess, yes places with people actually making stuff on their family farms will produce a richer variety and better quality produce and dairy product than the average foodstuff in the US.
The main thing cheddarheads yelling at me don't understand is that the cheese Europeans enjoy come from small farms, many of which have existed for hundreds of years and many generations. The cheese they import to enjoy in the US is named after these places with history in cheese making. There is no very little comparable history in the US.
Then, the cheese actually made in the US mostly comes from Wisconsin and California, that mass produces a handful of commercially viable varieties in huge factory vats and exports them by freight truck thousands of miles to the shelves of specific bougie stores because the Lidl/Aldi equivalents in US only stock 10 kinds of Cheddar.
You can get indignant all you want, stamp your feet all you want, start throwing out personal insults, but I'm right and you are wrong. And at the end of the day, that's what really matters.
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I think that if you went to a soviet gastronom in the 1970's and bought a big metal can of generic "сыр" with no provenance or details or even an indication of what kind of cheese it is, you'd still have a good chance of getting higher quality cheese than anything Americans have ever tasted.
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That is the Delaware river. It inland cities with ports on rivers is coastal then basically any state touching the Mississippi, Missouri, and Ohio rivers are "coastal".
Also most of the united States wasn't populated till the 1800s or later. Literally impossible to have centuries old small family owned stuff here.
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So really, what you're saying is his real beef is with the natives for not working on their cheese game 10,000+ years ago.
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As if China pre-Mao was any better. Chinese scammers are as old as idioms such as "hanging a sheep's head but selling dog meat" and similar terms to Ponzi (拆東牆補西牆) predating him by more than a thousand years.
I don't think there's a single country with a huge population that isn't full of selfish pricks looking out for themselves and nasty scammers. High trust western societies aren't heavily populated.
No one's saying China does this right. Needing such a system underlines how bad trust is among the average folk. I just think being able to scan a QR code to see the origin of food items down to the farm and mode of transport is a good idea and all the tiny holes I've visited so far had easily accessible fresh food.
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Maybe if you shopped in a hard-currency Berezka or something like that, otherwise the quality of products wasn't very good and got worse as the economy decayed through the 1970s. It was much better in the 1950s and 1960s but that's true of pretty much everything made in the USSR.
Sausage in particular got ruined in the early 1970s as meat shortages meant more cheap fillers and "other ingredients".
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I'm still mostly just seeing expat smuckling, self-delusions about the industrialization process not doing similar cost cutting measures, ignoring how most of them still need to import to feed a population, and doubling down due to a rabies like aversion to taking Ls.
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new random.txt kino just dropped
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We all owe it to Null's "friends" who have psyop'd him into thinking you can only get actual cheese or baked bread in America at Whole Foods. Fucking 10/10 troll.
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Either Null's "Friends" are fucking with him or they live in an "urban" location where they keep most of the good cheese behind the deli at whole foods, and because they are too autistic to talk to deli counter wagies they assume it just doesn't exist.
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We really went from "you literally only have cheddar and other shitty processed cheese" to "WELL THE CHEESE YOU GET DIRECTLY FROM EUROPE WASN'T MADE WITH THE TRADITIONAL METHOD OF STIRRING IT WITH AN UNWASHED WELSH MAN'S COCK TO GET THE BACTERIAL BALANCE JUST RIGHT SO IT DOESN'T FUCKING COUNT."
All from a man a man who sneeds about coffee snobs. Pot meet nigger.
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when i was younger i went over to my boyfriend's mom's house and we were making sandwiches or some shit and he's like "and we got the good cheese" and it was that fucking "cheese product" cheese, the one where every slice is individually-wrapped. and he swore by it, said it tasted good. so i took a bite. it tasted like nothing. just... nothing.
as long as that shit continues to exist in my country, i refuse to believe that we can ever have 'good' cheese, for all cheese has been tainted by fucking kraft singles.
as long as that shit continues to exist in my country, i refuse to believe that we can ever have 'good' cheese, for all cheese has been tainted by fucking kraft singles.
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Stop the presses, places that have been settled for thousands of years have more culture and history than one thats barely been settled for 500, and wasn't fully settled until about 100 years ago.
I'm sure the history of Hakaarl makes the piss fermented shark meat taste better.
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Living in the Bronx for 30+ years. I lived right next to Full Moon Pizza, across from the Chase Bank. Feel free to type this address into google maps.
632East 187th Street, Bronx, NY
From there, there used to be and I stress, used to be.
- Two Islamic butcher shops with pick your kill service. That sourced meat to all the chinese food restaurants in the area. The chicken used to be so fresh you'd still feel it's heart beating when you bit into it.
-Three different style bakeries, one with traditional European fair and the other with more eastern and the last one was Latino orientated.
I miss real cheese bread.
-The rest of the bakeries were just cakes and gelato.
- Two Italian butcher shops, only fresh rabbits and lamb though, all the fresh made sausage you could ever want.
- Fresh Cheese and Pasta store., still there to this day. Most of the pizza shops get their cheese from them.
-Fresh Fish Market that was separate from the Farmers Market that sold oysters. The store is fucking cursed as any business that moves into that spot goes out of business within a year, and it STILL stinks like fish.
Today, the all the fresh kill shops are gone and only the stores propped up by "mysterious money" have avoided being gentrified by outsiders.
Now that I live in spookcity VA, where everyone has some form of goverment clearance, wegmens is as fresh as it gets. If you want a roll, you gotta get it from walmart or heaven forbid cheese cake factory.
It's one of the things I miss about NYC.
632East 187th Street, Bronx, NY
From there, there used to be and I stress, used to be.
- Two Islamic butcher shops with pick your kill service. That sourced meat to all the chinese food restaurants in the area. The chicken used to be so fresh you'd still feel it's heart beating when you bit into it.
-Three different style bakeries, one with traditional European fair and the other with more eastern and the last one was Latino orientated.
I miss real cheese bread.
-The rest of the bakeries were just cakes and gelato.
- Two Italian butcher shops, only fresh rabbits and lamb though, all the fresh made sausage you could ever want.
- Fresh Cheese and Pasta store., still there to this day. Most of the pizza shops get their cheese from them.
-Fresh Fish Market that was separate from the Farmers Market that sold oysters. The store is fucking cursed as any business that moves into that spot goes out of business within a year, and it STILL stinks like fish.
Today, the all the fresh kill shops are gone and only the stores propped up by "mysterious money" have avoided being gentrified by outsiders.
Now that I live in spookcity VA, where everyone has some form of goverment clearance, wegmens is as fresh as it gets. If you want a roll, you gotta get it from walmart or heaven forbid cheese cake factory.
It's one of the things I miss about NYC.
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Also hilarious since a lot of those indie farms are actually dead, gay, and bought by a bigger company using their rep as a skinwalker too.
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Ive seen lots of fellow Americans post pictures from fieldtrips to local grocery stores with vast arrays of cheese, but none from you Eurocucks. Do Europeans even have the sheer amount of choice that we do at their grocers?
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look at that, the city slicker thinks kroger is bougie!
(daily reminder that josh lives in a country that is 39 times as densely populated as wyoming.)
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