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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.5%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%
  • A slow death

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The criticism people throw at older Disney movies is so tired and is like 85% of the reason why we keep getting these awful reimaginings.

Snow White shouldn't be compared to a modern Disney film because it was literally the first of its kind.

It was meant to be a simple fairytale to give people hope during the depression and prove that a cartoon can make people feel real feelings, and pushing it any further than what it already was could have really sourd the experience of a 1930s audience.


It literally kick-started animation as a medium, so I don't see how anybody could downplay it's important to Disney unless they just don't care about animation anymore
 
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First Disney did reshoots to remove an Israeli superhero from captain America 4. Now Rachel Zegler attaching the Snow White remake to pro-Hamas Left. Not mention Disney so woke they refuse to hire red dwarves to play the seven dwarves.
 
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First Disney did reshoots to remove an Israeli superhero from captain America 4. Now Rachel Zegler attaching the Snow White remake to pro-Hamas Left. Not mention Disney so woke they refuse to hire red dwarves to play the seven dwarves.
I'm all for them spending a massive amount of money on this only for it to flop hard because nobody wants to see their horrible butchering of Snow White.
 
They really did her dirty with that chin-length bob, I don't think they could have found a more unflattering style for her face shape. It isn't even accurate to the animated movie. Seriously, what ratchet ass stylist did they hire who looked at this:

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And translated it to this:
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Her part isn't even straight! For fuck's sake they have all this goddamn money and what they came up with would get them laughed out of a regional cosplay event. Just Google "Snow White hairstyle" and you'll women of all races successfully recreating the style in a way that SO much prettier and more whimsical than what they inflicted upon this poor girl.
 
The criticism people throw at older Disney movies is so tired and is like 85% of the reason why we keep getting these awful reimaginings.

Snow White shouldn't be compared to a modern Disney film because it was literally the first of its kind.

It was meant to be a simple fairytale to give people hope during the depression and prove that a cartoon can make people feel real feelings, and pushing it any further than what it already was could have really sourd the experience of a 1930s audience.


It literally kick-started animation as a medium, so I don't see how anybody could downplay it's important to Disney unless they just don't care about animation anymore
"Reimaginings": The shadow does not create, it can only co-opt and destroy that which was made good.
 
They really did her dirty with that chin-length bob, I don't think they could have found a more unflattering style for her face shape.
Considering Ziegler's personality, I like to imagine this was purposeful and driven by loathing.

Or someone decided Snow White needed to look frumpy because they cast the more attractive woman as the evil queen and don't seem to understand (or simply refuse to acknowledge) that being naturally beautiful and having a decent personality is something that happens. Snow White has to be relatable to all the self-obsessed baby Rachels in the world who want to self-insert into the film and if she doesn't look just like them, how could they possibly feel any level of understanding or sympathy?
 
Considering Ziegler's personality, I like to imagine this was purposeful and driven by loathing.

Or someone decided Snow White needed to look frumpy because they cast the more attractive woman as the evil queen and don't seem to understand (or simply refuse to acknowledge) that being naturally beautiful and having a decent personality is something that happens. Snow White has to be relatable to all the self-obsessed baby Rachels in the world who want to self-insert into the film and if she doesn't look just like them, how could they possibly feel any level of understanding or sympathy?
I think Zegler can be quite beautiful, but she does have an unconventional face that if styled in the wrong way can look weird and gnome-like. I also think Gal is weird casting, not because of her looks (Charlize Theron was iconique in the same role in Snow White and the Huntsman) but because she’s a shit actress.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if this remake changes the Queen’s motivations for going after Snow White. Knowing nuDisney they’ll have Snow starting up a nonprofit for peasant girls of color to earn STEM degrees and the Queen doesn’t believe in education, or something.
 
I think Zegler can be quite beautiful, but she does have an unconventional face that if styled in the wrong way can look weird and gnome-like. I also think Gal is weird casting, not because of her looks (Charlize Theron was iconique in the same role in Snow White and the Huntsman) but because she’s a shit actress.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if this remake changes the Queen’s motivations for going after Snow White. Knowing nuDisney they’ll have Snow starting up a nonprofit for peasant girls of color to earn STEM degrees and the Queen doesn’t believe in education, or something.
My first introduction to Ziegler (Zegler?) was her spewing nonsense so I'm heavily biased based on what I've seen of her personality but she's definitely been styled worse than she needed to be. It reminds me of how some K-Dramas used to go out of their way to 'uglify' a pretty actress by giving her frizzy hair and freckles. Agree with Gadot as well. She would have been fine casting for the good mother that dies like they did with Hayley Atwell in Cinderella. Thinking back on that, I found her casting ridiculous there but I think she could have been a fun Evil Stepmother.

Regardless, I fear how they might change the Queen's motivations. I have no clue how they could fuck that up aside from her lusting over the prince and being pissed off Snow might get a chance to marry him before the Queen could... maybe? Or having this turn into Frozen where the Queen simply had to let it go (it being the evil Magic Mirror of Patriarchy) and open her eyes to the beauty of girl boss alliances. Or something.
 
My first introduction to Ziegler (Zegler?) was her spewing nonsense so I'm heavily biased based on what I've seen of her personality but she's definitely been styled worse than she needed to be. It reminds me of how some K-Dramas used to go out of their way to 'uglify' a pretty actress by giving her frizzy hair and freckles. Agree with Gadot as well. She would have been fine casting for the good mother that dies like they did with Hayley Atwell in Cinderella. Thinking back on that, I found her casting ridiculous there but I think she could have been a fun Evil Stepmother.

Regardless, I fear how they might change the Queen's motivations. I have no clue how they could fuck that up aside from her lusting over the prince and being pissed off Snow might get a chance to marry him before the Queen could... maybe? Or having this turn into Frozen where the Queen simply had to let it go (it being the evil Magic Mirror of Patriarchy) and open her eyes to the beauty of girl boss alliances. Or something.

Im guessing none of the traditional motivations will work (being jealous over beauty or lusting over a man) because *CURRENT YEAR* girls are not supposed to care at all about beauty or men. Never mind the title snow white refers to her beauty. It will probably be something like laziest and most obvious girlboss shit like the Queen is wielding political power and doesn't want to give it up to Snow White who is destined as the rightful girlboss of the kingdom.
 
They really did her dirty with that chin-length bob, I don't think they could have found a more unflattering style for her face shape. It isn't even accurate to the animated movie. Seriously, what ratchet ass stylist did they hire who looked at this:

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And translated it to this:
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Her part isn't even straight! For fuck's sake they have all this goddamn money and what they came up with would get them laughed out of a regional cosplay event. Just Google "Snow White hairstyle" and you'll women of all races successfully recreating the style in a way that SO much prettier and more whimsical than what they inflicted upon this poor girl.
Disney is a fucking joke of a company when for all their billions of dollars fucking COSPLAYERS can do a better Snow White.
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How absolutely fucking incompetent. Walt would personally defenestrate everyone in the company if he ever cam back.
 
Disney is a fucking joke of a company when for all their billions of dollars fucking COSPLAYERS can do a better Snow White.

How absolutely fucking incompetent. Walt would personally defenestrate everyone in the company if he ever cam back.
If I remember correctly, isn't the reason why Snow White was so-named because her skin was white as snow and now she's being replaced by Mud Brown of all people?

Hell, even Brett Cooper can pass off as a better-looking Snow White.
 
If I remember correctly, isn't the reason why Snow White was so-named because her skin was white as snow and now she's being replaced by Mud Brown of all people?

Hell, even Brett Cooper can pass off as a better-looking Snow White.

Yes from the earliest Grimm version

she thought: had I but a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as this frame! Soon afterwards she had a daughter, as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as ebony, and so she was called Little-snow-white.

So thats another bit of classic poetry from the original that is completely discarded now by idiot bureaucrats who probably don't know or care at all about fairy tales and their history. Just like Heimdall was the 'whitest of the gods'. Its blackwashing, and pretty obviously malicious blackwashing at that.
 
Yes from the earliest Grimm version

she thought: had I but a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as this frame! Soon afterwards she had a daughter, as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as ebony, and so she was called Little-snow-white.

So thats another bit of classic poetry from the original that is completely discarded now by idiot bureaucrats who probably don't know or care at all about fairy tales and their history. Just like Heimdall was the 'whitest of the gods'. Its blackwashing, and pretty obviously malicious blackwashing at that.
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is the red supposed to be her lips and the black her hair?
 
Disney is a fucking joke of a company when for all their billions of dollars fucking COSPLAYERS can do a better Snow White.
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How absolutely fucking incompetent. Walt would personally defenestrate everyone in the company if he ever cam back.
It’s actually hilarious that Disney has strict rules about their castmembers who play a character at the parks. But Disney throws those rules out the window when it comes to movies to push a message.

It’s also comical that Gal Gadot is jealous of Rachel Zeggler in the movie. Zeggler is below average at best with a few drinks in you.

Just rename the movie to Snow Ratchet and the 7 Dwarfs.
 
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is the red supposed to be her lips and the black her hair?
Yup.

The Disney clown execs now want Snow White to have her skin as brown as a turd a cinnamon. Can't wait to see "The Last Nigger on Earth" starring Tom Hanks next.

It’s also comical that Gal Gadot is jealous of Rachel Zeggler in the movie. Zeggler is below average at best with a few drinks in you.
Fucking hilarious that someone who's obviously more beautiful would be jealous of Mud Brown's looks. Really pushing the "white skin is evil yet turdskin is cool" message there, Disney.
 
The German Grimm text I was able to find which I'm assuming is the original reads

Bald darauf bekam sie ein Töchterlein, das war so weiß wie Schnee, so rot wie Blut und so schwarzhaarig wie Ebenholz und ward darum Schneewittchen (Schneeweißchen) genannt. Und wie das Kind geboren war, starb die Königin. Über ein Jahr nahm sich der König eine andere Gemahlin.

popping into google translate it goes

Soon afterwards she had a little daughter who was as white as snow, as red as blood and as black-haired as ebony and was therefore called Schneewittchen (Snow White). And when the child was born, the queen died. Over a year the king took another wife.

Since we're in some mystical European setting and not preColumbian north america I'd say its a pretty good bet the white is in reference to the skin and red is a reference to the lips.

Also

Once upon a time it was the middle of winter and the snowflakes were falling like feathers from the sky. There was a queen sitting at a window that had a frame of black ebony, sewing. And as she was sewing and looking up at the snow, she pricked her finger with the needle and three drops of blood fell into the snow. And because the red looked so beautiful in the white snow, she thought to herself: If I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood and as black as the wood on the frame!

So while it doesn't explicitly say the answer outright for all the traits as far as I can tell. Theres a bit of a beautiful metaphor here that leads you to the answer. Do you see it?
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If you can't figure it out the black frame surrounds red on a white background.

Of course this symbolism is completely lost on the writers of the current abomination who probably never even read the original.
 
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