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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 433 27.4%

  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 57 3.6%

  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,088 68.9%
  • Total voters
    1,578
Battlefield2142EU said:
Even the live action Snow White porn parodies had better costumes and casting for that matter. I'm not even shit posting.
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>actual porn parodies of Disney princesses are shaping to be better than remakes involving Disney princesses in current day

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As the kids on the web would say, “Please say sike.”
 
>tfw you're doing such a bad job promoting your movie your own target audience openly mocks you

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Kari Kamiya said:
The scene with Beast and Belle arguing after the wolf pack scene was not abusive, as both made good points, but one made more of an impact with facts that couldn't be refuted because it was something that put both their lives in danger. And even then, she still thanked him for saving her life as she's treating his wounds, ending it on a more positive note that allowed them to calm down around each other, and Beast was then willing to make the effort to change his behavior..
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If someone perceived that exchange as abusive, they don't understand feelings or relationships. It comes right after a scene where the Beast saves Belle from a pack of wolves and almost died from it, but Belle's compassion saves him. He is grumbling and cranky, and they argue their perspectives on the incident openly. It's probably one of the least abusive scenes prior to his change of heart, and shows that he's willing to listen to her and consider her advice - a major difference from Gaston.
 
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She only has two roles in smaller movies and was a complete unknown before she was cast.

Yep, she definitely had to swallow a lot of cum to get this job.
 
Mayor Cody Travers said:
Too much money in the bank for that, but everyone rooting against them could happily accept it as the true beginning of the end for Disney.
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Is there? The last quarter's figure was better but the quarter before disclosed a shockingly low figure for working capital (money in the bank). It's a standard refrain that Disney is too big too fail and / or has so much wealth it can't fail but what actually is this wealth?

The movies/IPs are high profile but loss making so far as revenue goes and dramatically reduced in asset value. Would anyone now buy Lucasfilm, Pixar, Marvel or Fox for anything close to what Disney paid? There's a genuine argument to be had as to whether or not Disney and its sub brands are actually reasons for people to buy as opposed to reasons for people to not buy for a significant part of the market that Disney needs to sell to. Although high profile the movies aren't that significant to Disney's overall financial position but the IP situation has knock on consequences.

The parks have been the cash cow but even they, particularly the US ones, are in decline. The genius strategy of milking the remaining attendees til there udders run dry has failed. This is one of those things that is affected by the failing of the IPs. If people are dissuaded by the brand why would they pay top dollar to visit a theme park based on that brand. The Star Cruiser hotel which failed because (enough) people weren't prepared to pay it's inflated prices "because it's Star Wars" is a microcosm of this but the issue is of wider application. Also the land associated with the parks is vast but is it really worth its current use book value? What is all that Florida land really worth in the open market to a buyer who would not be able to use it as a Disney themed park.

The cruise ships are doing fine (all cruise operations are on the up given that they were all but shut down for a couple of years) but are also vulnerable to the wider IP failings of Disney. Why would someone pay a premium for a Disney cruise experience is the Disney brand is seen as a negative?

The streaming services that Iger banked the future of the company on are still losing vast sums (and subscribers) though Disney claim it will move to operating profit soon. Wonder if that will include the servicing of the massive debts they have built up? Am guessing not. We are also seeing significant price increases here which may be a replication of the parks experience of trying to milk your reducing customer base. Didn't work there. Not obvious why it would work here but maybe it will.

ESPN is something of a jewel in the crown but remember even that relies on winning very expensive auctions for sporting rights. Lose a few of those and everything changes. And there are developments here!

Disney also has some rather chunky current risks.

They need to realise probably well in excess of $10bn for Hulu (maybe more than twice that amount). They don't have the money sitting around for that so it's going to be more loans and/or Disney shares. I don't doubt the extent of Disney's ability to get credit but financial institutions expect their capital back and a significant return on top. What's going to fund that. Issuing shares is an option but the number they need to issue depends on the then current share price (currently low and sinking) and both gives a degree of control to the recipient of that vast shareholding and dilutes the value of the existing shares which is not likely to go down well with the exiting and already antsy shareholders.

The recently started litigation concerning Disney's alleged "Hollywood accounting" to screw over financiers of the Fox projects Disney inherited has the potential (but not certainty) to hurt Disney. Not just in the direct consequences of a judgement or settlement but consequential damage. If you are looking to finance a film are you more or less likely to contract with a Disney that has been exposed as f'ing financiers like you over? And if you are is it going to be on terms more onerous to Disney because you can't rely on good faith from them?

Then there's Reedy Creek which has the investigators in. The current litigation could end up badly for Disney but if there's been decades of fraud that's a whole different ball game. Maybe there's been no fraud (press X to doubt) and maybe Disney can cover it up or, if they can't the Florida authorities won't take action. However you look at it; not good for Disney.

And let's not forget... our glorious global overlords, the ones Disney is so supportive of, are trying to wind up Covid 2 Electric Boogaloo. What's the impact of another lockdown going to be on Disney. I'm guessing, not positive.

Maybe this is why Disney is :
"Aug 24 (Reuters) - Amazon.com (AMZN.O) is in early talks with Walt Disney Co (DIS.N) about working on the streaming version of ESPN it is developing, while possibly also taking a minority stake in the sports network, the Information reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter.

Disney and ESPN are still in the midst of determining an appropriate price for the new service, the report said.

ESPN is considering charging between $20 and $35 a month for the new streaming service, which could make it the most expensive streaming service in the U.S, the report added.

Amazon.com, Walt Disney and ESPN did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment.

In July, Disney CEO Robert Iger told CNBC that his company wants to keep ESPN and look for strategic partners to form a joint venture or buy a stake in the sports network to help take it directly to consumers."

and the stock is lower than it has been for many many years.


TLDR: The Mouse don't shit gold no more.
 
if I was Iger then I'd look hard at flipping the ESPN IP
iirc it's always been one of those things that makes a good chunk of change, but it also costs that same good chunk of change to get games and shit so it's become a spiraling cost for everybody without any bigger net gain
it's also fairly disconnected from the company in the public eye too, so it's not like they sold Goofy

only buildout in the parks I think is a place to eat or two?
 
Milkshake Sniffer said:
They need to realise probably well in excess of $10bn for Hulu (maybe more than twice that amount). They don't have the money sitting around for that so it's going to be more loans and/or Disney shares. I don't doubt the extent of Disney's ability to get credit but financial institutions expect their capital back and a significant return on top. What's going to fund that. Issuing shares is an option but the number they need to issue depends on the then current share price (currently low and sinking) and both gives a degree of control to the recipient of that vast shareholding and dilutes the value of the existing shares which is not likely to go down well with the exiting and already antsy shareholders.
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Honestly, in my humble opinion, Iger and most of the board leeches dont really care. They have been focusing on the short term profit for a long time and thats bound to come for your ass sooner or later. When and if Disney starts crapping out, most of them have golden parachutes while they leave the mess to whoever runs the company after them.
 
Seafarer said:
Sounds like live-action Gaston was an early sufferer of the John Walker effect:
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the John Walker effect is about poor writing, unless you're directly trying to be subversive like starship troopers. it should be rather easy to get audiences to side with the intended heroes. Case in point Shrek 2, Prince Charming is literally prince charming and the villian in the Incredibles is a guy who's even scheme is giving everyone super powers. The writers for modern capeshit are so lost in the sauce that they genuinely believe that how they write these characters makes them evil because to their jewish eyes their traits and character arcs are evil. if you notice you don't see this shit popping up in anime or even european dramas. its rather exclusively an american issue and can be summed up by how backwards the mindset of the people writing them is.

vern said:
I actually think a Mattel theme park could work as an indoor park themed around being toy sized in a kids room (so toy story land but not shit), but based on the renders I don't think there gonna go with that, but at the end of the day it'll depend on if the rides and attractions are any good.
Like I said Six flags has all the Warner IPs save Harry Potter and their at best a day park. Hell I'd argue Cedar Fair is the better day chain and iirc the only IP they have in the parks is The Peanuts which hasn't been big in a long time and is only used for their kid area (although I do have a few fond memories of the camp snoopy that used to be Minnesota).
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Cedar Point also used to have the rights to warner bros, hanna barbaera and nicktoons, If anything the parks were better than disney, for any little kid. do kids really care that much about disney characters? especially compared to say spongebob or scooby doo or any of the other shit they'd have on 24/7 on cable back in the 90s/2000s/2010s

as fun as disney world might be, any kid over the age of 10 would prefer going on roller coasters to hugging some dude in a fursuit. the theme of the theme park doesn't really matter in most of these places besides disney anyways. as much as i loved the Hurler being wayne's world themed it doesn't change the ride itself too much

@FuckMeGentlyWithAChainsaw there was an old youtube channel that did just remove the porn from the parodies and overall they weren't that bad. like the x-files one just felt like one of the crappier monster of the week episodes. also iirc pirates has a cut for some international audiences that was r rated, all the sex taken out, because they were that desperate to get their money back.
 
Those just look like people in the park pretending to be characters which is not allowed. They do not match the costumes disney uses in the parks. They also are pretty damn strict on face characters attritubutes.
 
sad news to inform you but look like one delays most likely done but, strike pushed it 2024.
last 2 big movies' of 2023 is marvels & Aquaman 2.
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Retelling Before Or A sub movie before lion king 2.
 
The handsome tard said:
Yep, she definitely had to swallow a lot of cum to get this job.
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You know, if I had to suck old Jew cock to get work while surrounded by soy beta cucks and faggots in LA, I'd probably have a low opinion on men and relationships too. Maybe thats why she's so obsessed with 'power' and being a 'girl boss'?
Get the rope Macaulay! said:
the villian in the Incredibles is a guy who's even scheme is giving everyone super powers
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No, Syndrome is the villain because he tricked and killed a bunch of superheroes (many of which were Bob's old colleagues and friends) to test his Omnidroid. He also wanted them out of the way so he would be the sole 'hero' in his watchmen style fake invasion. And after he had his fun, he'd sell his tech so everyone would be 'super', but not because he's altruistic and wanted to help the little guy. It was purely as a final twist of the knife against Mr Incredible for rejecting his talents.
 
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