Do you think Phil is actually depressed?

Do you think Phil is actually depressed?

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Although depression presents itself different in different people, I will say if he was really depressed as he said he was:
1. He'd avoid all contact with anyone
2. He wouldn't be streaming no matter what as it kills any motivation to do anything.
3. Just cause he's self sabotaging himself doesn't mean depression.
4. He'd be too fucking burned out to even feel his opinions on anything matter and more likely AGREE that his word is bullshit all the time.


Nigga I'm depressed all the time, if anything he would be blaming panic attacks for his fuck ups. Cause depression just makes you not want to do shit but piss and moan all goddamn day, unless you talk to someone or find a way to deal with it. And I don't think Kat the Demon Stallion is a good substitute for a Shrink. He'd be surprised how good a 30 min walk outside can clear your head.
 
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I'm torn. In the U.K. where I'm from, suicide is the largest killer of men under 40; most men I know have had issues at some point with mental health regardless of if it manifests itself as full, visible depression. So I feel for and can empathise with anyone battling that with the balls to admit it.

What I can't get behind is an obnoxious oaf, who has spent years bandying around the term 'mentally ill' using it as his new excuse for why he's such a prick. Depression doesn't make you act like a knobhead with the consistency and lack of awareness Phil does. Saying stuff like 'I couldn't do this fun thing with Kat so I got depressed and posted that shill tweet' like it's a get of jail free card? I don't buy it. He's mixing 'being depressed' with 'feeling like a bellend'.

This genuinely feels like he's using 'but I'm depressed' as a 'hey you can't pick me up on my shitbag behaviour because I'm depressed.' It feels like he's using the stigma of offending a depressed person to guilt trip 'detractors' into not calling him out on his behaviour.

If he's depressed he certainly doesn't seem to want to fight it or learn from it.
 
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I think it self induced depression. Like others pointed out, it's a by-product of his lifestyle. If I stayed locked up in my house and only going out to do the grocery or pick up a game once a week I'd probably be depressed. It doesn'T have to be that way, he should go out more, make some friends or meet some new people.
 
And hey if he wants he could tard cum the paypigs for his antidepressants or therapy cause both are expensive as shit.
 
Just spitballing but a lot of depressed men mask it with an over-inflated ego and/or anger. I don't particularly pity him but I think it's possible. It could also be an excuse. No one really knows for sure so everything in this thread is just speculation in the end.
 
I think he's depressed in the sense he lives a pretty miserable existence, but not depressed in the chemical imbalance sense. I'd compare it to smaller gaming cow/former CA person Spoony, who does have some form of depression which was part of why he stopped regularly producing content. Although Spoony, much like Phil, is also responsible for a lot of his own misery.

That's one of the best things about DSP as a cow, he's in a cycle of constantly ruining his own life and giving us material. I think a lot of it actually boils down to him being too proud to admit he's messed up. If his gaming career had never really taken off and he didn't have this community of detractors, I think he'd have either given up on YouTube outright because it was too much work, or it would be at most a hobby in his life. But now, he's too stubborn to admit what he's doing isn't working and he's unhappy, so he just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper.
 
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this looks like a depressed person to me
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in all pandalee's travel vlahgs you can see how miserable phil really is. phil is far from rationalizing why he is depressed, if he is. Any grown man would be depressed if your income comes from donations of autistic childrens
 
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Yeah, nah, using depression as an excuse for shitty actions is bullshit. He probably doesn't really have legit depression.
 
I think we all can agree that depression doesn't make you stupid and ignorant. Your dumbass opinions you have had for years isn't because you are depressed. But realizing how stupid you are, like with me supporting phil can make you depressed.
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This was what I was thinking when phil was crying. Maybe I am taking this too far, but I belive phil only feel sorry for himself.
 
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No, I do not belive he's depressed. Cry, cry wolf and all that! He would hardly act like he do if he were depressed. He's an asshole though, but that is hardly a diagnosis.
 
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Depressed? No.

But I don't think he gets that simply 'living the dream' isn't going to make him happy no matter how much money he throws at it. I mean, rewind the clock to a point where Panda was still his girlfriend living in the house, he wasn't dropped by Machinima, and probably a few other things I'm forgetting didn't happen yet.

He still wasn't really 'happy'.

The truth is that his shut-in lifestyle pretty much has rendered him devoid of any actual life. I recall it getting mentioned that perhaps the only thing Phil does besides the video games is drink shitty cheap gin and watch wrestling. He doesn't have any hobbies, he doesn't really have anything that would dump responsibility on him (other than taxes and the video game streaming) - and he thinks being responsibility free like that is what he wants.
 
Well, alcohol is a depressant...

Didn't Phil post a twitlonger not to long ago saying how his detractors are mentally ill and be feels bad for them and hopes they get the help they need?

We all know what kind of help Phil is willing to accept. He needs that money help. He really does. For his bills mental health
 
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It seems to me more a case of a narcissistic manipulator being purposely misleading by describing minor unpleasantness with charged words that technically fall under the generic dictionary definition of the word, in this case 'depression' meaning he periodically experiences unhappiness, while at the same time being vague enough they know people will assume they meant things like 'clinical, medical, chronic, severe, etc. depression'.

Suicide is commonly in the top 10 causes of death and in many places and demographics it is in the top 5, as such people are generally encouraged to be open and honest about depression with all discussions of it taken seriously. The narcissistic manipulator is aware of such cultural attitudes and will frequently employ tactics to take their common practice of perceiving their own trials in life to wildly exaggerated proportions and will describe minor symptoms using terms that will manipulate the most sympathy and awe from their audience. The examples of Phil doing this are innumerable, I'm reminded of just yesterday when he stubbed his toe and, instead of continuing on about his day, made sure to describe in detail what happened and to make sure his entire audience knew his foot was "throbbing" oh and he also kicked a controller so now he's basically crippled but despite all this he is bravely soldiering on for your entertainment.

Do I think Phil experiences unhappiness from time to time on a semi-regular basis? Sure, probably. Do I think this unhappiness is out of the ordinary given his circumstances? No, not really. He's a moron who keeps shooting himself in the foot accidentally. His self-destruction seems to be a by-product of his idiocy and not a symptom of a mental health issue.
Do I think Phil has any type of clinical, diagnosable depression? No, probably not. One thing that leads me to doubt a medical condition is that he doesn't take his depression seriously. I don't see him taking specific steps to identify and modify things negatively effecting his mood. He hasn't sought out any kind of professional help or medication for his situation. If your fist step is to tell children on the internet about it that just seems like manipulative attention seeking to me.

His 'depression' just seems to me a manipulative term to couch feeling at all unsatisfied or less than as happy as a heroin junky getting their fix, whenever he thinks he has an extended amount of time to talk at people and manipulate sympathy from them in hopes of receiving extra pity donations. I never hear him off-hand mention feelings of malaise, it's always a part of an extended monologue during a verbal essay from Phil about how terrible his life is and that he's just a good boy who dindu nuffin. . .and you fucking assholes are making him sad because you've donated $11,000 to little to him this year and you better step it up you worthless humans.

I think scapegoating depression as an excuse for consistently behaving like a dipshit is a scummy thing to do. . .and a classic Phil move.
 
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Okay, even putting the whole "does he really have depression or not" to one side for a sec, even if he DOES have depression. Blaming EVERY shitty thing that he's done on his depression is really scummy. Like REALLY scummy, which apparently includes borderline stalking a girl in high school thanks to his "depression." If he really has depression then its scummy because he's abusing his mental illness to get away with shit and not own up to it and using it as a defence wall so he can never be blamed, and using it as a weapon against detractors to make them villains, and if he doesn't then its still what I just said PLUS making up that he has depression.

He's legit said these words in Hate Live "My depression made me do this." and "You're making me feel worse and worthless!" to people in the chat before banning them whenever they correct him on a wrong fact about depression."The tweet wasn't my mistake it was my depression." Just even if he DOES have it, this is fucked.
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This is like one step away from blaming ambien for your Twitter.

I agree 1000% with what you've said here, but it's part of Phil's ultimate defense which is "nothing I could do." He will never own up to anything, and will instead consult an ever growing list of other things to blame it on. Lag, weather, my dead aunt, my wolverine statue, my attorney, detractors. I've noticed a trend recently where he refuses to try to brainstorm and come up with his own ideas. Instead he's trying to take ideas from the crowd through his patreon to vote on what to play, or what "big event" he should do for hitting the sub goal. He spoke previously about asking for ideas for rewards for sub goals to try to encourage subscribers to his channel, and was blaming chat for coming up with ideas that no one wanted to get behind.

Someone said this in another thread but he has gone from having his hand held during a game to now having his hand held for running his fucking business.
 
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On the first look, it seems he is incapable of deeper feelings and just too narcistic for depression.
But whenever I watch his videos he comes of as totally depressed.
Might be that it is actually me getting depressed watching him...
 
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I think Phil doesn't understand what "depression" as a word really means, like with some other big words he throws around.
He uses it like in: "It's depressing to watch Phil's videos". I'm not really getting depressed, it's just a way to say I can't stand his videos. He uses it like he's just bothered with something and calls it another word. It's hard for me to see it another way when his ego shines with the brightness of thousand suns.
 
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