Doomworld - AKA Troonworld, a dedicated safe space for pedophiles and megalomaniacs - Corrupting the Doom community since 2016

Übermensch Doom Cuck said:
Triple-A studios have hundreds of employees with different professions. Making megawads is very tame compared to a video game that consists of numerous assets that have to be created from scratch for the most part.
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I think what Nirvana meant was more like, Skillsaw being this top tier developer of Doom maps, that always delivers the "high budget" polished wads. He was basically riding his dick with that comment, and then Skillsaw said he feels pressured to do his best all the time... hee also mentioned wanting to make a Knee-Deep in the Dead replacement episode, for a long time, but being unable to, due to what people might think of it. That's kind of sad. Imagine turning what should be just a fun hobby for you, into some high-pressure job that doesn't pay, where you can't do the things you want to do, because you're insecure of what players might say. It's also funny because Skillsaw is clearly unaware of just how little players care about that, and just want to see him make another release... He can do anything he wants, and no one will ever complain or criticize, but in his mind, he always has to deliver big time, like he has a career to maintain. It's weird. Just make wads and have fun, dummy...

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Zacharin X said:
Imagine turning what should be just a fun hobby for you, into some high-pressure job that doesn't pay, where you can't do the things you want to do, because you're insecure of what players might say. It's also funny because Skillsaw is clearly unaware of just how little players care about that, and just want to see him make another release... He can do anything he wants, and no one will ever complain or criticize, but in his mind, he always has to deliver big time, like he has a career to maintain. It's weird. Just make wads and have fun, dummy...
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No kidding, I've seen that type of shit from ModDB too. Unpaid wads/mods that take forever to make/update because the author wants to impress people so much that sometimes, the end product turns out to be mediocre.
 
crunchy bits are the best said:
No kidding, I've seen that type of shit from ModDB too. Unpaid wads/mods that take forever to make/update because the author wants to impress people so much that sometimes, the end product turns out to be mediocre.
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A good argument for deadlines. Either you make it to the date or not. No delays, no excuses.
Regarding wanting to impress people: That's just perfectionism, which is the enemy of good. If you make something for others to consume you don't evaluate your own personal opinion on your creation because you will always find flaws.
 
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Zacharin X said:
I think what Nirvana meant was more like, Skillsaw being this top tier developer of Doom maps, that always delivers the "high budget" polished wads.
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Oh ok, that makes more sense. Nirvana should've used a better word to describe Skillsaw's high quality releases, maybe something like: 'You are one of the top wad developers in the community'. That would sound less cringe.

Zacharin X said:
It's also funny because Skillsaw is clearly unaware of just how little players care about that, and just want to see him make another release... He can do anything he wants, and no one will ever complain or criticize, but in his mind, he always has to deliver big time, like he has a career to maintain. It's weird. Just make wads and have fun, dummy...
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It seems like a 'you are your worst critic' issue for him. He worries about the criticism that might or might not happen (which for him is the latter since he's praised endlessly). Like bro you are on the Troonworld, they'll kiss your ass no problem.
 
Talmudic Ketamine said:
Regarding wanting to impress people: That's just perfectionism, which is the enemy of good.
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Indeed. To draw a comparison with the actual gaming industry, Duke Nukem Forever was exactly that, and look how it turned out. I don't think Skilllsaw or the BTSX cunts will disappoint their worshipers with their future projects, but they need to loosen up, and stop taking themselves so seriously. It's for their own good. These things have been said already, but the whole "Cult of the mapper" that Troonworld has created with their circle jerk rituals and cacoward worship, works against so many of their members, especially the ones who are so desperate for attention and approval in life. It's not a big deal, it's just fan made content for a very old game, and you're not changing the world with it. But of course, daring to say that over there is an instant ban. They like to live in the illusion that they've created, and they don't want to see it disrupted by a reality check.
 
Zacharin X said:
To draw a comparison with the actual gaming industry, Duke Nukem Forever was exactly that, and look how it turned out.
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Speaking of DNF I find it amusing that after the 2001 leaks all the fan projects that were very excited about it are also taking forever to release any significant updates. I think it's been a few years at this point. Working for free on a massive project like that is an overwhelming amount of work?! How shocking, who could have seen that coming!
 
Tagnut Fondler said:
Because it appears to be used by the same clique that's "in charge" of the modern Quake community. The same few names frequently pop up as both uploaders and in credits of various mods and maps

For instance, Brutalist Jam series co-lead and uploader is Makkon, who's a he/they leftist from San Fran, a 3D/2D artist that works at the studio that made Subnautica.

He creates high quality textures a lot of people use for their maps and is apparently friends with Millenia3d I mentioned earlier, so naturally he must be quite popular in there
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Glad I didn't bother playing the Brutalist Jam.

But someone who hates these people could always make their own website. Never put them in charge.
 
Payne in the Max said:
Glad I didn't bother playing the Brutalist Jam.

But someone who hates these people could always make their own website. Never put them in charge.
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Unfortunately, these guys are THE contemporary Quake community. Everything modern Quake offers is made by them and I'm not exaggerating.

However, I think func_msgboard and quaddicted should have plenty of oldheads who are uninterested in modern culture wars, with quaddicted having an exhaustive archive of quake maps going as far back as 1996.
 
crunchy bits are the best said:
No kidding, I've seen that type of shit from ModDB too. Unpaid wads/mods that take forever to make/update because the author wants to impress people so much that sometimes, the end product turns out to be mediocre.
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Some acclaimed indie games took significantly less time to develop than many doom megawads
And I'm not even talking about partial/full conversions with original code
 
Started Skulltiverse 2. Very disappointing so far, bunch of uninspired space maps with okay pacing/levels including one that the designers put xer fursonas inside a secret. Pretty let down but I'll still try and finish it.
 
Zacharin X said:
That's kind of sad. Imagine turning what should be just a fun hobby for you, into some high-pressure job that doesn't pay, where you can't do the things you want to do, because you're insecure of what players might say.
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I respect that though honestly, because that's the mindset of an artist. It is a flawed way of thinking in many ways, but it's also the reason the stuff he puts out has such a high ratio of quality to begin with.

If more people thought this way, the community wouldn't be buried under shit.

The Ugly One said:
There's just something about modding games from the 1990s that makes you crave cock.
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I find it came to me the other way around.
 
Here we go again... stupidity never ends, it evolves:

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AngryAboutInternets said:
you basically have to be autistic or willing to suck up to powermods to learn how to do the deeper modding like ZScript/DECORATE/ACS
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Alright, there's some degree of digital onanism, but limited in functional, MBF21 wads in 5 years already have oversaturated Doom community with fairly basic mods and when you want to jump over your head, you have obviously less possibilities with MBF21 than with ZDoom. NT2F alone overshadows many other MBF21 wads, and to create a blade of grass that's higher than it you'll soon appear to be searching for crazy hacks like what vanilla schizos use, like mikoconveyors, voodoo zombies and shit
 
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