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There was a point, years ago, where I had the guilty pleasure of watching Doctor Who. I'm so glad I moved the fuck on with my life. Capaldi was alright but chick doctor sucked, never watched nigger doctor and I'll probably go the rest of my life without watching this shit again.
 
Yes - but that might be because they can't actually guarantee another season, and Disney is rarely transparent about what it chooses to cancel. If the two year hiatus is true, Russell will likely be gone and the Doctor could be recast. It felt in same ways like a bookended sendoff, because Rose is the very first character you see in the revival era.
I read a story awhile back that the BBC intends to move forward with the program even without Disney, but after this I find that really hard to believe. Ultimately they just had the US streaming rights and were footing the bill for some of this awful looking CGI, so it's not like it's impossible for the show to continue. But they already went down to 8 episodes, so what's next? 4 episodes a season? Every season is just a single story?

Another thing i found funny about how the franchise has been mangled is the fact that Doctor Shaniqua has still not being properly explained not even in audios or comics, how we can blame Trump winning for this gamers
She basically only existed so that the BBC could publish promotional material featuring "all" of the Doctors and have a single black face so it wouldn't just be a picture of white people, I don't think there was any care beyond that.

It's funny you mention the "blame Trump" thing because I've finally had some time to sit and enjoy the salt and the reactions are almost universally negative, but there are some delusional holdouts. Including some who blame the negative reception on "chuds" who just hate how "diverse" the show is, it's hilarious. :story:

Is it going to come out that the Doctor is literally fucking himself?
One theory I'm seeing is that 15 and Piper-Doctor are going to die off the way poojeta Rani did, and that they're going to have to bring back Tennant (again) and he'll regenerate into another Doctor, so that 15 and Piper-Doctor are like offshoots. I wonder if Tennant would agree to do it though, he's shamelessly woke and already tarnished his own reputation with the 60th specials anyway so I'm sure he'd come back again so he can regenerate into a non-binary Paki in a wheelchair to win the day for diversity and inclusion.

It's really fruitless to try to read into this stuff though, RTD is just creating mysteries for the sake of it, he doesn't explain half of this shit and when he does it's either underwhelming/stupid or in a behind the scenes video that still doesn't make the mystery make any sense.
 
One theory I'm seeing is that 15 and Piper-Doctor are going to die off the way poojeta Rani did, and that they're going to have to bring back Tennant (again) and he'll regenerate into another Doctor, so that 15 and Piper-Doctor are
i can easily see David Tennant coming back considering Good Omens had its 3rd season nuked because of the gaiman rapes. he's out of work anyways.
 
It's funny you mention the "blame Trump" thing because I've finally had some time to sit and enjoy the salt and the reactions are almost universally negative, but there are some delusional holdouts. Including some who blame the negative reception on "chuds" who just hate how "diverse" the show is, it's hilarious
I went to check the comics where she is and instead of trying to copy the actress she is just Amanda Waller but with gayer clothes
 
WTF is that her now?

I NEVER thought Billie was that hot as a companion. aggressively mid at best, but dang - that looks less like she hit the wall and more like the wall murdered her.

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i can easily see David Tennant coming back considering Good Omens had its 3rd season nuked because of the gaiman rapes. he's out of work anyways.
I can see it just for the social angle, without Disney it's not like they can afford him but he'd probably take a paycut just to spite the right wing boogiemen and continue to undermine his legacy by making the Doctor gayer and more retarded.

WTF is that her now?

I NEVER thought Billie was that hot as a companion. aggressively mid at best, but dang - that looks less like she hit the wall and more like the wall murdered her.
She's gotten a lot of awful, aggressive plastic surgery/botox/lip fillers over the years. She looks horrible. They haven't even started filming new specials or anything yet, she's not going to look the same by the time they get round to it unless she schedules all new injections right before filming.

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She's only 42 years old and looks like she's approaching sixty, all due to how much work she's gotten done, it's insane. It's not like she was a supermodel before or anything but I still thought she was beautiful in her own way, but now she doesn't even look like a person.
 
I stopped enjoying the show when David Tennant was no longer the doctor despite trying to get through Matt Smith's run. I think it was the swordfight scene where the doctor fights with a spoon or something that finally made me lose interest. I like when the doctor has some edginess to him and the lolsorandom comedy gets grating.
Capaldi was the one who sword fought with a spoon.

I can see it just for the social angle, without Disney it's not like they can afford him but he'd probably take a paycut just to spite the right wing boogiemen and continue to undermine his legacy by making the Doctor gayer and more retarded.


She's gotten a lot of awful, aggressive plastic surgery/botox/lip fillers over the years. She looks horrible. They haven't even started filming new specials or anything yet, she's not going to look the same by the time they get round to it unless she schedules all new injections right before filming.

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She's only 42 years old and looks like she's approaching sixty, all due to how much work she's gotten done, it's insane. It's not like she was a supermodel before or anything but I still thought she was beautiful in her own way, but now she doesn't even look like a person.
OMG are those images all supposed to be the same person?

She should sue those doctors for malpractice.
 
It's hilarious for this to be the final straw for a lot of RTD sycophants but knock on wood that the massive backlash makes the BBC can him and start over with a completely brand new writing team, that actually wants to do something original and not push the executive producers political views.
 
Archie Panjabi comes across so bland compared to Anita Dobson. Anita can actually act deceptively sweet and menacing; Archie, in spite of ominous music, Ncuti doing his scared little baby face at her, killer high heels and loads of eyeliner, just doesn't come across that way.
I actually felt the opposite; the whole Flood thing was somewhat intriguing but as soon as Panjabi was on screen she hammed it up appropriately and made Dobson look less interesting, even if she took some cues from Michelle Gomez's Missy.

Gatwa grew on me a bit and I thought his performances improved in his second series but he's still the worst since 2005. I wasn't familiar with him but I'm genuinely shocked they picked someone with so little range (ditto with tranny Rose although my expectations were obviously lower for some tranny retcon sideshow than for the main character). I much preferred Belinda to Ruby as a companion. Wasn't interested in any of Ruby's adoptive family shit, while the circumstances of him meeting Belinda meant their relationship developed more naturally. The Poppy bit had real pathos and was probably the best thing in Gatwa's entire run. Even if they were box-ticking in their diversity, the companions were my favourite thing about Whittaker's Doctor so a bit of a downgrade in that area.

I thought the stories were largely as forgettable as Capaldi and Whittaker's but with the added annoyance of drag queens. As someone else mentioned, Graham Norton popping up was funny and goes to show how Ecclestone's one season finale included futuristic versions of Big Brother and The Weakest Link and he's still highly regarded.

It's baffling to me that RTD can't write interesting gay characters or reference gay culture in an even slightly interesting way now. I'd be fine if it didn't have any gay characters at all, but the very first time we saw Ecclestone's Doctor go into the future there was a maniacal scheming tranny (played by a real woman, those were the days) so obsessed with plastic surgery all that was left was a thin layer of skin. Tennant's Doctor at his lowest point, imprisoned by the Master, was soundtracked by Scissor Sisters. Captain Jack, powered by Barrowman swinging his cock around on set. Now we just get AGP skinwalkers and robots who state their own pronouns.

I'm expecting the next companions to be a throuple. Since Tennant 2 it's felt like a bit of a conveyor belt of returning characters and settings along with the mess of bigeneration. Not optimistic about what they've got planned for Billie.
 
Something Crazy i didn't realize about Doctor who until recently is that the Original series when you just do a per minute runtime has less content than the US show Dallas, yet there's no huge fandom for that, that existed for years after the wilderness years. Only in Scifi can you have shows that are only on the air for a short time and have huge conventions and fan fics and all this other shit about them, must be the autism.

Like when it comes to soap operas or telenovelas or other shows of similar legacy and backlog as Doctor who you're not getting all this massive infighting and arguing, at least where i can see it. like everyone sort of agrees when it comes to similarly huge womens content, like everyone knows the SATC revival is shit, and that the netflix gilmore girls specials were awful. You don't get this "if you don't like it you're X" nonsense or infighting. Everyone just agrees
I NEVER thought Billie was that hot as a companion. aggressively mid at best, but dang - that looks less like she hit the wall and more like the wall murdered her.
she unironically looks like a nigger now. between the lips and the eyebrows she just looks like a light skinned nigger in a weave.
 
It's hilarious for this to be the final straw for a lot of RTD sycophants but knock on wood that the massive backlash makes the BBC can him and start over with a completely brand new writing team, that actually wants to do something original and not push the executive producers political views.
I really don't know who would take the job. So far it's just been a nepotistic free for all with all the showrunners being friends, so it would be down to someone that's friends with Russel. I suppose the BBC could go over his head and try to find someone serious, but they haven't had an issue with the endless trash the show has been for the last 12 years anyway, why would they start now? Even then, the reputation of the show is in the gutter. It has been total nonsense every series now with constant retcons and new mystery boxies that are left unexplained and old actors coming back. It's a narrative clusterfuck. Who would even want it at this point? So much of RTD coming back to me seemed to be about the BBC's inability to find anyone else to do it, which was why he was given so much creative control over the re-revival, and he hasn't improved matters at all.

Not optimistic about what they've got planned for Billie.
The only silver lining is that it seems to be a stunt casting with her playing some other character and not the Doctor or taking over the role for the next go around.
 
I read a story awhile back that the BBC intends to move forward with the program even without Disney, but after this I find that really hard to believe. Ultimately they just had the US streaming rights and were footing the bill for some of this awful looking CGI, so it's not like it's impossible for the show to continue. But they already went down to 8 episodes, so what's next? 4 episodes a season? Every season is just a single story?
There seems to be two most likely directions. Disney seems to have bought it with expectation that it would be come a franchise and expanded universe (because of course they did), but with the hostility towards it now, that's a none starter. Because unlike the BBC, Disney is at least aware of the cultural backlash and has already made changes. I expect Disney has told them to wait for a while, then see if it's viable to invest in it again alongside spin offs and other nonsense and yes, changes to the format and requests to tone down (or simply censor) the progressive stuff for international audiences. If that doesn't happen they'll wait longer or end the deal.

As for the BBC, they can afford to make Doctor Who at a loss. but it's not just the politics that are the problem. Like Star Wars and Star Trek, it's become a clumsy, confused, tired mess, that is reliant entirely on nostalgia, overseen by DEI hires who are indecisive and can't handle money and helmed by a man who has completely forgotten how to do his job. I don't expect they'll recognise that because their regular programming is still top in the ratings.

None of you have any reason to believe me but I ran into Christopher Eccleston in a bar tonight and told him about Billie Piper, he said he called it three years ago.
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Eccleston has always been incredibly bitter about how he was treated though he's not given details. If he knew then the team who made the first 3 series were this incompetent, then how did it do so well?
 
Capaldi was the one who sword fought with a spoon.
I've also heard a lot of rumors that episode was written for Matt Smith which is why it has such a goofy moment, but I think it worked out in the end. It was one of Capaldi's early episodes and allowed him to show that he could still be funny as the Doctor even though he's grumpier and more alien. I think it's one of the funniest episodes of the entire series, it's one of my personal favorites. It reminds me a lot of the Third Doctor story The Time Warriors which is the first to feature Sarah Jane Smith and predominately revolves around a medieval castle, a really fun one. Sarah Jane is fierce from go, you can tell she's going to be a fan favorite right away.

As for the BBC, they can afford to make Doctor Who at a loss. but it's not just the politics that are the problem. Like Star Wars and Star Trek, it's become a clumsy, confused, tired mess, that is reliant entirely on nostalgia, overseen by DEI hires who are indecisive and can't handle money and helmed by a man who has completely forgotten how to do his job. I don't expect they'll recognise that because their regular programming is still top in the ratings.
What strikes me as well is how much damage was done to these three brands, all virtually facing identical issues of overbearing progressive hellwashing and clueless executives who seem to loathe the thing they're in charge of. Even if people didn't care for a particular Doctor at any given moment, they still had the brand to engage with, books and comics and things. But the awful shit from the TV series is even sinking into those things now. And it's hard to be enthused for something that goes beyond just not caring for it, but something that's become awful and even resents you as an audience member. Why get excited for books audios when you just know the Fugitive Doctor is going to get hamfisted in there at some point, or Donna's son, or the obnoxious wheelchair lady from UNIT?

I don't see a way forward beyond some form of Wilderness Years 2 that chucks all this out, but at the same time I think I've been saying something to that effect since the Chibs years and here we are.
 
Seriously what is the BBC smoking to just let RTD go scorched earth on Dr. Who? No one would watch a Rose Doctor series so this is just bullshit. Unfucking believable.

Yes - but that might be because they can't actually guarantee another season, and Disney is rarely transparent about what it chooses to cancel. If the two year hiatus is true, Russell will likely be gone and the Doctor could be recast. It felt in same ways like a bookended sendoff, because Rose is the very first character you see in the revival era.
They might I mean might do Big Finish audio stories with her in the meantime. I mean it's possible I suppose? Does Billie Piper even have much of an acting career at this point? Speaking of Big Finish audios I wonder which nuWho Doctor will eventually do them after they realize their careers are over? Eccleston? Smith? Whitaker? Capaldi? Or Gatwa? Tennant somehow is the most famous actor Doctor ever but he seems a good sport about his Who career and could return in Big Finish in a decade I'd imagine?
 
Seriously what is the BBC smoking to just let RTD go scorched earth on Dr. Who? No one would watch a Rose Doctor series so this is just bullshit. Unfucking believable.
There's a lot of complicated baggage with the fact that the BBC is a public entity meaning that they don't really have profit margins or anything to deal with like a private entity. Not that that stopped the likes of CBS or Disney from shitting on the sci-fi properties they own or anything, but the BBC in particular has certain governance goals like diversity mandates. That's actually one reason why Isaac Newton was played by some half black half Indian guy or whatever in Wild Blue Yonder, because otherwise the episode would have been nothing but white people and they can't have an episode of a program that's entirely white.

Like another issue is that the money that the BBC spends has to go towards some form of social good or social program, Doctor Who is kind of always existed in that margin because it was ostensibly a educational program before becoming a sci-fi series. But there was always an angle with having historical episodes or a sci-fi episode that deals with some kind of new emerging technology so that in that way it was still somewhat educational. So that's also one reason there's so much push for diversity and all of this because it falls under that umbrella of air quote social good.

So it really doesn't matter how bad the ratings continue to get or how few people are watching, they can still continue to produce episodes but God knows why they would other than it seems like there's a lot of people who are determined to refuse to let the chuds win. Russell in particular is in this very weird position of basically admitting in these interviews that he's just going for shock value and trying to get headlines but then having to hand wave all the criticism he gets for doing that as a political thing. He's in this hell of his own making, and I love it. There's a lot of that going around lately. :)
They might I mean might do Big Finish audio stories with her in the meantime. I mean it's possible I suppose? Does Billie Piper even have much of an acting career at this point? Speaking of Big Finish audios I wonder which nuWho Doctor will eventually do them after they realize their careers are over? Eccleston? Smith? Whitaker? Capaldi? Or Gatwa? Tennant somehow is the most famous actor Doctor ever but he seems a good sport about his Who career and could return in Big Finish in a decade I'd imagine?
Whitakers first big finish series is set to come out in July. Eccleston has been doing them for a while now, I think just because big finish started doing Shakespeare as well and he loves Shakespeare so he basically agreed to do some Doctor Who in return for getting to do Shakespeare. Smith has expressed no interest in returning to the series unless he can play a villain of some kind and Capaldi was quite adamant that he wouldn't return under any circumstances so I guess we'll see.
 
I know nothing about this gay show from the British Caliphate, but I saw this in the Community Happenings. Thought she looked like Kamala and others did too.
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I'm curious to see what the show will look like in a decade of the UK continues its path of regaining its cultural identity and hopefully banning Muslims, troons, fags, and niggers. I know jeets will be a problem there forever, but that's God's punishment for colonizing india instead of sailing the other way once they found shit island.
The UK is never regaining its cultural identity bud. The only cultural identity it has left is that they love sodomy and brown people.

Its a muslim colony that will soon become a full blown caliphate. Muslims living there have orders of magnitude more kids than the bri'ish and are already on track to outnumber them in a generation or two.

If you think doctor who is ever going to make a recovery its not happening unless it gets revived by the caliphate, and honestly it will probably be better than the current version because instead of being sand people + sodomy it will only be sand people.

And truth be told, I am also curious to see what doctor who will be like when produced by the albion caliphate, assuming its not outright banned.

Certainly can't be worse than whatever it is now.
 
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