DuckDuckGo has blocked Kiwi Farms

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So which browser/search engine sucks the least now? Seems no matter what people get fuck'd over no matter what they end up choosing
 
I know my search was kinda incriminating, I was trying to search for something writing-related [mainly trying to see what kind of mark stabbing a piece of wood would leave, not... anything like what I got] on DuckDuckGo when I came across this...
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And this wasn't even that far down or anything. [The last one is right before the two results that lead to a gore site.]
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Rate me what you like, but I just wanted to say: hmm, yeah, great job at protecting the people from the evilness lair of doom that is Kiwi Farms. *insert something waxing poetic about how out of all the stuff we do [real and fake] we at least don't post gore for shits and giggles*
 
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Zaryiu said:
So which browser/search engine sucks the least now? Seems no matter what people get fuck'd over no matter what they end up choosing
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Don't trust anything, ever. Your browser is lying to you. Every search engine is lying to you. Assume that every news site you ever browse is fake news and is lying to you.
 
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I sometimes wonder if it's possible that the current kulturkampf that is being mistaken for a fit of pique. . .I totally quit this argument in favor of calling someone a fag. . .
yawning sneasel said:
It sounds to me like you're saying the wisest move is to not use the internet at all, and judging by your 87,344 post count, I can tell you clearly do not use any technology.
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That's what you say, but you are an enormous faggot yourself, and therefore, by pointing out this obvious fact, I win!
 
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OwO What's This? said:
Don't get too cozy with Yandex, by the way. They too are compromised: https://tass.com/economy/1062262
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Any Russian tech company/service that isn't completely underground will have been compromised by state security services in some way. However, I don't think the Russian government gives a shit about what we're doing on this site. It's not like we have prominent threads dedicated to mocking Putin or his inner circle (or anything else that might place us in FSB crosshairs). The censorship/social control priorities of the Russian state are so different from the kind we are worried about with tech companies and banks here in the West, that I wouldn't really draw a parallel.

Also, as for the DDG delisting, I have noticed that KF always shows up when my sensitivity setting is on 'Moderate,' but not when it is on 'strict' nor when it is disabled. I am using one of Nord's obfuscated servers (Miami), but this doesn't seem to matter as much as sensitivity setting (in my case).
I don't really have an explanation for this.
 
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I know my search was kinda incriminating, I was trying to search for something writing-related [mainly trying to see what kind of mark stabbing a piece of wood would leave, not... anything like what I got] on DuckDuckGo when I came across this...
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And this wasn't even that far down or anything. [The last one is right before the two results that lead to a gore site.]
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Rate me what you like, but I just wanted to say: hmm, yeah, great job at protecting the people from the evilness lair of doom that is Kiwi Farms. *insert something waxing poetic about how out of all the stuff we do [real and fake] we at least don't post gore for shits and giggles*
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Listen, that drooling rеtаrd dog is one scary nigger. Not only does he have mongoloid eyes, but his skin is grey and shit.
 
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I honestly thought DDG did have its own spider and created a small index of its own, even though it mostly relies on Bing and Yandex for results.
Zaryiu said:
So which browser/search engine sucks the least now? Seems no matter what people get fuck'd over no matter what they end up choosing
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Try a Searx instance, like the random Searx redirector with my preferences (including which search engines are pulled from), or one of the older ones, searx.me (or ones hosted by OpenPandora or Snopyta); you can also set up a Searx instance yourself, but ultimately it does rely on third-party search-providers.

The four links I posted that contain my search preferences do not use Bing or search engines that rely on it (Qwant runs its own crawler but still heavily leans on Bing); it does use Google, Yandex, Gigablast (created by a former Infoseek employee, based in New Mexico, formerly provided results to Ixquick), and Mojeek (independent UK-based search engine, not particularly good results). EDIT: The Gigablast integration doesn't work at the moment, and the Mojeek integration often times out.​

You may also consider YaCy, but in order to use it, you'll need to actually run a node; this is a distributed search engine not under the control of any corporation (you can also run an instance of Gigablast, but the documentation looks somewhat rougher).

In case you're curious about some non-Anglophone search engines other than Baidu, I found four decent ones:
  • Tencent Sogou (competes against Baidu like Bing competes against Google)
  • Qihoo 360Search (another Chinese search engine, doesn't return such good results for KF)
  • Naver (top search engine in South Korea)
  • Seznam (Google's main competitor in the Czech Republic, once the top search engine in CZ, available as a third-party provider in Searx)
All four links show the search-results page for "kiwifarms" (without quotation marks).

Curiously enough, Yippy (f.k.a. Clusty) seems to lean on Bing and inherit its censorship, even though its owner is a QAnon supporter and so you'd think he'd be a friend of the Farms.
 
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I tried a site-specific search for site:kiwifarms.net on DuckDuckGo and it worked just fine, so I decided to try it on the other search engines that were mentioned in the OP. I disabled any safesearch bullshit before searching, and I ran a query for a benign site first to confirm that the engine used the same syntax for site-specific searches (they all did). Here's what I found:

AOL: Completely ghosted (no results, no indication that results had been removed).
Bing: No results, indicated that results had been removed, but didn't explain beyond this link to their general cucking policy.
DuckDuckGo: Shitloads of results, even things I didn't even know about like https://kiwifarms.net/archive/
Quant: Completely ghosted.
Yahoo: Completely ghosted.

So, contrary to a lot of the exceptional screeching, it seems like DuckDuckGo definitely isn't targeting the Farms. Quite the opposite really: DDG was the only engine that still had some results despite the fact that KF was completely Shoah LeBouf'd from at least one major search index. According to DDG they have over 400 sources of search data, so that's probably why they could still scrounge something up.

My guess is that the issues with DuckDuckGo's regular search stem from how they choose/prioritize their results. Bing and Oath appear to be DDG's largest data sources, so they likely have a disproportionate impact on what shows up in DDG's results. You can see that impact for yourself by doing a regular query for kiwi farms yaniv in Bing, DDG, and Yahoo. Look at both the results you get and the order they're in. They're nearly (if not entirely) identical in both the results and their order. They even have the same results for the lesser-known KF domains like kiwifarms.pl and kiwifarms.tw in roughly the same positions. Their image search results are a bit more varied, but there's still some overlap even with images that point straight to kiwifarms.net.

Not to powerlevel but, as a big businessman who sends a lot of big emails, this pattern strikes me as a sampling bias. It's like DDG's hits from other sources are being diluted by the sheer volume of hits from Bing and Oath, or there's some other kind of hidden weighting mechanism that tends to favor Bing/Oath more than other sources. Either way, the fact that the results for a search engine with 400 sources are so close to the results of its two biggest sources is a pretty strong indicator that there's some sort of bias afoot.

The real smoking gun, though, is the way the site-specific searches differ. Since Bing and Oath (AOL/Yahoo) don't return any results for site:kiwifarms.net, it seems safe to assume that all of the DDG results for that query are coming from other sources. They essentially act as a control group, showing us that DDG has plenty of results for kiwifarms.net and isn't outright blocking them. Unless DDG is pulling some exceptional shenanigans like blocking the results everywhere except the site-specific search, we should reasonably expect to see them somewhere in the regular results. Since we aren't, the most likely alternative is that it's something to do with how DDG selects the limited number of results it'll return for any given query.

tl;dr - Bing and Oath are specifically blocking results for site:kiwifarms.net, but DuckDuckGo is still happy to return them. The absence of results in DuckDuckGo's standard search mode is likely an unintentional bias in their dataset, one that allows Bing/Oath's high volume of incredibly whitewashed results to dilute the results from other sources.
 
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OwO What's This? said:
I'm just saying don't get cozy with it, they're not the good guys, they're just the lesser of two evils
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At this point if they're not actively trying to murder white people, they're allies.

donjulio said:
To me it feels like much of that era was fueled by optimism for the future.

Then it finally came and man was that shit some false advertising. But hey, free 2 day shipping.
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There's a quote about that which gets passed around a lot. Something like: "We were the first generation of whites raised to be race-blind, but when we held out our hand in friendship to you, you grabbed it so you could drive the knife into our heart." White America was raised to believe we were all equal and that the Rainbow Nation was the ideal future, but nobody else thought that way. It was just us.
 
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Rip_In_Pepperino said:
I honestly thought DDG did have its own spider and created a small index of its own, even though it mostly relies on Bing and Yandex for results.Try a Searx instance, like the random Searx redirector with my preferences (including which search engines are pulled from), or one of the older ones, searx.me (or ones hosted by OpenPandora or Snopyta); you can also set up a Searx instance yourself, but ultimately it does rely on third-party search-providers.

The four links I posted that contain my search preferences do not use Qwant, Bing, or search engines that rely on Bing (Qwant does use Microsoft Azure, but since leaving the development phase, it has used its own crawler rather than relying on Bing); it does use Google, Yandex, Gigablast (created by a former Infoseek employee, based in New Mexico, formerly provided results to Ixquick), and Mojeek (independent UK-based search engine). EDIT: The Gigablast integration doesn't work at the moment.​

You may also consider YaCy, but in order to use it, you'll need to actually run a node; this is a distributed search engine not under the control of any corporation (you can also run an instance of Gigablast, but the documentation looks somewhat rougher).

In case you're curious about some non-Anglophone search engines other than Baidu, I found three good ones:
  • Tencent Sogou (competes against Baidu like Bing competes against Google)
  • Naver (top search engine in South Korea)
  • Seznam (Google's main competitor in the Czech Republic, once the top search engine in CZ, available as a third-party provider in Searx)
All three links show the search-results page for "kiwifarms" (without quotation marks).
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Thanks i appreciate very much
 
Late for the party, probably, but-

Using Brave's private window with Tor (not that I'd trust it for anything serious), Kiwi Farms shows up fine on DuckDuckGo

With a regular window, you won't find it if you just enter the website's name. However, if you add a person or event (I used 'Mumkey Jones' at first) it will show the specific forum thread...though not always. Jessica Yaniv's thread doesn't show, for instance, but Amberlynn Reid's general discussion thread does.

My knowledge of this tech is limited so I will refrain from suggesting any theories as to why this is. Merely reporting what's happening in my location.
 
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