E3 2021 Griefing Thread - Now with more nigger pandering, does anyone even care about most of the games displayed here seriously? (Spoiler alert Nintendo won lol)

[Slimy Time]

Dying Light 2, Stalker 2, and maybe MAYBE Halo Infinite are the only games worth a fuck this year.

Of the mainstream game, I have pretty much only have Dying Light 2 and Stalker 2 thats worth giving a crap about. There is also Total war stuff, but that isn't very "mainstream". It says a lot where I get more entertainment/excitement out of these games on steam that are for less than 15 bucks than I do from these mainstream big titles.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Of the mainstream game, I have pretty much only have Dying Light 2 and Stalker 2 thats worth giving a crap about. There is also Total war stuff, but that isn't very "mainstream". It says a lot where I get more entertainment/excitement out of these games on steam that are for less than 15 bucks than I do from these mainstream big titles.

I really feel what's weighing down a lot of AAA games is that they're trying to be Jack of all Trades, master of nothing.

Like I see the Guardians of the Galaxy game and it looks like a lot of admirable work has been done in VA, art design, and making an interactive Mass Effect/Telltale story.

I just feel why don't think just make a solid action game with a fun story. Not everything has to be an RPG.

 

[Product Placement]

Summer Game Fest: They did have stuff to show nothing for me but still had stuff I think some people will like, but the presentation was truly awful and felt very ego driven. Why does it need the bad musical numbers, why does it need celebrity guests , why have a new dev just come out on stage saying they are making a game with Sony with no other information and what was with that pointless talk with Kojima.

Devolver Digital:
The just has been ran into the ground now, some okay looking games but they need a new format to show them in.

Gearbox:
Fails to be funny, nothing to show that wasn't already shown elsewhere. It felt like Randy Pitchford just wanted to brag about the movie and all the celebrates he now knows, but even from the video it was clear no one wanted this greasy used car sales man there and just wanted to get on with their jobs.

Ubisoft:
Same old fucking shit, how many GAAS or bloat open world games can they make, they are cannibalizing them self.
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, wonder if anyone still cares about this ip. But it about time we had the first next gen bullshot game from Ubisoft. Like Watch Dogs 1, I expect the final game to not look anywhere close to good on any platform, even when other devs will surpass this on hardware.

Koch Media:
Worst one I have ever seen, was just people talking about the games not showing any of the games, so at best people will forget about the games, at worse people will not buy them due to you wasting their time, wasn't even a funny train wreck. Also some game journos have said many of the games were shown behind doors and most of them looked like they were showable to the general public, so begs the question why those games weren't.

Xbox:
Xbox showing was weird, after buying studios they finally have games coming out unlike Xbone gen, also lots of stuff coming to day one to gamepass, but if you not a fan of first person games or co op first person games, really not much if anything for you. Bright side everything is on pc so don't even even a console to play any of them. Also why too many cgi trailers that tell us too little or fuck all about the games.
Starfield how is anyone hyped for this, legit no nothing but a date and it takes place in space, Todd Howard was even given the time to make up some bullshit about the game like he normally does.
Halo: just show the fuckin gameplay, no one wants to see Master Chief floating in space for 3 minutes.

Sqaure Enix:
GotG, looks better than the Avengers, but still looks run of the mill gameplay wise, the footage showed so much walking and talking that just seems dull, if they removed that I think the game could be fun but right now doubt it.
FF Pixel Remasters,dumb it's skipping out on consoles for now, but Sqaure Enix's last try of remastering these old games were awful, so the fact they didn't show any clear footage is just bad marketing and will be the main thing people will talk about with these games if they will turn out shit again rather than looking forward to them.
Babylon Falls, big Platinum fan but just not sold on this, it looks like a less shit version of God Fall but still not fun.
LiS, still looks like shit, and og game still runs on every console, pretty clearly just made to milk more money from the dumb fans
Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin, I like how edgy the trailer was, it brought a lot of humor and some personalty however pretty sure it was meant to be cool rather than funny which just makes it funnier to me. Need to see more gameplay, but could see this one being a fun game.

PC gaming show:
All just ads and unfunny skits, could have edited it down to 45ish minutes and had a alright showing. Also it broke one of the big rules, creating flase hype, they hype up Gabe Newell only for it to be him talking about the demo event on steam, nothing wrong with bringing him on to talk about that but just don't hype it up.

Capcom is coming up today, I don't expect any new games from them, maybe some DLC or if lucky a remaster and that's about it, if they had anything to show they would have shown it in one of the bigger shows or would have done more to hype up this show.

Nintendo, outside Pokemon and a Zelda port has nothing for the rest of the year, so they got to have some games. Nintendo are known for sitting on games as well, so that should have helped with covid delays compared to other companies that put the games out pretty much as soon as it's ready.

 

[MooseGump]

Why no one is trying to emulate the look of PS2/Xbox games yet I don't know, think somewhat low poly but high resolution textures, you could probably get a pretty snazzy looking game that would be relatively inexpensive to make.

Or bring back pre-rendered graphics, either a mixture of 3D character models and pre-rendered backgrounds ala REmake or isometric like Fallout 1 and 2 (to be fair, I think a few games have actually done this)

Either way pixel art is plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayed out, there's other retro aesthetics they could bring back.

The PS2 era cannot be emulated because gamers™ have put a stigma on games that don't look that great, as in whenever a Japanese game has a big ass world but not so great textures people would automatically call it a PS2 game

Like Dragon Quest 11S being brought to other consoles/PC, that game still had a fair amount of people complaining that it looks worse than the original due to it using the lower resolution textures the switch version had

Pre-rendered backgrounds and all that might be neat, but I feel like people would still question that too since back then those backgrounds were made to trick you into thinking it's 3d rather than telling you outright that it's all fake, would still like to see someone try and see where that goes

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

Better buy yourself some archival hardware so you can make legal copies of your collection then.

Oh wait! You don't have a collection because you steal everything! I bet you're some fag that has a girlfriend or some gay shit, too. HOLY FUCK.

Fuck off retard also would rather "steal" than pay a bunch of hipster cocksuckers 10,000$ for a cart of earthbound

 

[White Devil]

• Steam had a terrible reputation for its first few years

I actually remember my friends and I refused to use Steam in favor of Xfire due to just how fucking shitty Steam was back in the day. Lots of people don't remember what an unstable piece of shit it was, and how new their market place only concept was. I hated that the only place I could play classic Day of Defeat was through Steam and its asstastic server browser and having to manually download custom maps, etc through the game itself which took FOREVER.

 

[MooseGump]

Fuck off retard also would rather "steal" than pay a bunch of hipster cocksuckers 10,000$ for a cart of earthbound

That'll probably melt, remember when there was some company selling these expensive Street Fighter 2 carts that were melting while you're playing

 

[CarlosDanger]

I just want a Dino Crisis remake/reboot, Dragon's Dogma 2 would be cool.

 

[Dom Cruise]

PC gaming in the 2000s was in a very weird place because of a multitude of reasons:

• Increasingly intrusive DRM was screwing over customers, going as far as to install rootkits that could cause serious system instability that couldn't be removed without reinstalling Windows. It wasn't unheard of for actual customers to have to find pirated copies of the games they bought just so they could play them
• x86 PCs running Windows were just about the only remaining computer you could get, and the Macintosh gaming scene was all but dead, being reduced to shoddy ports of several year old games sold for $50, when they were already down to $10 on Windows
• Windows itself wasn't very stable, and most people had low-quality prebuilts that were obsolete about an hour after they bought them. A five-year-old computer today can still run even the highest end games at medium-low settings, but a five-year-old computer in 2005 would slow down to the point of mouse lag from even just Internet Explorer loading a busy website
• MMORPGs were having their best days, and those were designed to be played on just about anything, and couldn't be pirated
• It probably didn't help that PC games didn't widely adopt DVDs until Blu-ray was already out, making some games a serious hassle to reinstall. If you bought every expansion pack for The Sims, you would have to swap out 11 discs during the install
• Steam had a terrible reputation for its first few years
• Piracy was the only solution for many countries that didn't speak Western European languages, as the pirates would translate those games and make something they could actually play
• Even game controllers hadn't been standardized yet. There were some attempts - DirectInput was alive and well, but you'd go to the store to look for a gaming controller, and you'd usually see joysticks that look like the one below, and joypads were weirdly rare for some reason, and of course adapters for console controllers just didn't exist (which is insane, now that I know how electronically simple they are). I played my earliest SNES roms using that very model of joystick, believe it or not.

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Like even 2D platformers had options for joysticks and it was just normal to play everything with controllers designed for flight simulators for some reason, why does nobody ever point out how weird that is in retrospect

And then Windows 7 and Steam made PC gaming great again

All factors that went into it I'm sure, but then you had people were who were pirating simply because they were cheap asses.

Also, I was not aware Steam had a bad reputation in it's early days.

The PS2 era cannot be emulated because gamers™ have put a stigma on games that don't look that great, as in whenever a Japanese game has a big ass world but not so great textures people would automatically call it a PS2 game

Like Dragon Quest 11S being brought to other consoles/PC, that game still had a fair amount of people complaining that it looks worse than the original due to it using the lower resolution textures the switch version had

Pre-rendered backgrounds and all that might be neat, but I feel like people would still question that too since back then those backgrounds were made to trick you into thinking it's 3d rather than telling you outright that it's all fake, would still like to see someone try and see where that goes

The gold standard of graphics of that era is Ninja Gaiden Black, I think people would be pretty please by graphics of that level if the gameplay delivered.

I think when people complain about "PS2 graphics" though they're mostly complaining about it in the HD era, PS2 graphics tend to look better on a CRT and worse in the harsh light of HD, I feel like there would be a way to capture the "vibe" of PS2 era graphics while still updating it for the HD era.

Dark Souls gives you some idea of what I'm talking about, that had the "vibe" of a PS2 era game, just jazzed up.

 

[trent]

The demo for Final Fantasy: Chaos Is Bad And I'm Going To Kill It doesn't work on ps5.

As in, you download it and try to start it and it doesn't work and tells you to uninstall.

 

[MooseGump]

I just want a Dino Crisis remake/reboot, Dragon's Dogma 2 would be cool.

Dragon's Dogema 2 was confirmed to exist at the very least, so maybe now we'll get a nice trailer

 

[Kulee Baba]

I actually remember my friends and I refused to use Steam in favor of Xfire due to just how fucking shitty Steam was back in the day. Lots of people don't remember what an unstable piece of shit it was, and how new their market place only concept was. I hated that the only place I could play classic Day of Defeat was through Steam and its asstastic server browser and having to manually download custom maps, etc through the game itself which took FOREVER.

Lol, I remember being a kid who just discovered Counter-Strike. I really thought it was cool (still do) when you'd connect to a server and the game would display a shitload of technical server jargon that I could barely read by the time the server connected.

Then Steam came out with the legendary janky (albeit fun) CS Source and all you got to look at while connecting was that boring Steam bar. I know it's a silly (perhaps autistic) thing to care about but I miss when all computing seemed to be more techy than it actually is. Love the faux 90s intro that the Westwood Studios guys made for CnC Remastered.

 

[Miller]

What has happened to the game industry is that the idealogues who only care about "inclusiveness" and "representation" have finally outnumbered the people who want to develop fun/interesting games.

It's all about making a point or sending a message now so you end up with a bunch of identical low-effort pixel art games that are 100% geared toward pushing leftist Twitter topics.

Also, too many women in lead roles in game development. Women care more about the label of "gamer" to appear quirky than they do about the actual games. You can't expect people who don't play many games to develop anything decent.

Gaming started dying when the jocks took over the geek/nerd lifestyle and turned it into geek chic.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Gaming started dying when the jocks took over the geek/nerd lifestyle and turned it into geek chic.

It's not even jocks. It's weaker nerds who succumbed to the siren's song of bussy.

Soyface exists for a reason.

 

[Titos]

Would Dante or Doomguy piss off the smashfags or are those characters they want? My only exposure to their recently is Hax’s schizoposting.

Based on Japanese internet comments they don't want Doomguy at all, so it would probably piss off at least that half of them.

 

[Gamepad]

Christ, you guys are just so... Angry. Maybe this game is for you after all.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Also if you bitch about the story being a very important thing to a game you're part of the problem.

Souls games need no story you just need to be pointed in the direction of what new shit to kill next.


Anyone who plays games for the story shares the collective blame for stuff like this or volcano high existing

Story becomes so prominent that gameplay gets removed.

Games are not a story telling medium, they're one where story only serves as the framework, Games are about mechanics and interactivity.

 

[Maurice Caine]

Based on Japanese internet comments they don't want Doomguy at all, so it would probably piss off at least that half of them.

What a bunch of pussies, what'd they do if they saw Duke Nukem there? Disintegrate?

 

[Billy Beer]

Also if you bitch about the story being a very important thing to a game you're part of the problem.

Souls games need no story you just need to be pointed in the direction of what new shit to kill next.


Anyone who plays games for the story shares the collective blame for stuff like this or volcano high existing

Story becomes so prominent that gameplay gets removed.

Games are not a story telling medium, they're one where story only serves as the framework, Games are about mechanics and interactivity.

I disagree somewhat.

Gameplay should be 75% of the game and its foundation, but the story should cement it all together.

Soul Reaver and Blood Omen's stories were pretty straight-forward with a few fun twists thrown in. Without it, it wouldn't have given the 'punch' or 'drive' to the gameplay.

Even something like Twisted Metal, where the story was 'kill everyone', worked well because, well, you wanted to kill everyone.

 

[Dom Cruise]

The demo for Final Fantasy: Chaos Is Bad And I'm Going To Kill It doesn't work on ps5.

As in, you download it and try to start it and it doesn't work and tells you to uninstall.

Chaos... reigns!

Gaming started dying when the jocks took over the geek/nerd lifestyle and turned it into geek chic.

Jocks are our eternal enemies, ala Revenge of The Nerds.