Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

[Constellationzero]

This is kind of hard to describe but I'm sure other people will know what I mean by this-
Looking at Ellen page I feel weirdly almost physically sick with worry, like you're watching a disaster just before it's happened from too far away to do anything about it.
I have never seen someone look so much a phsycial manifestation of their own fucked up mental state, aside from like 50 year old toothless junkies who you look at and see the lifetime of abuse carved out on their body by all the choices they made because of their broken brains.

It's so weird to see her be attemtpedly held up by the media as something positive when it's so fucking clearly not. It's the same vibes as a hostage video.

The whole book is totally pathetic - she had a nice life and has somehow held on to every single incidence of njto being actively adored as abuse.
I'm only skimming through the excerpts but she keeps saying the word "body".
It's so bodily obsessed. I don't knwi if she's trying to eb deep and run an under current of a theme through her terrible writing
writing but yeah. It must be difficult to be specifically typecast as this pint-sized quirky girl and then that time comes to an end and she's clearly having a meltdown about it and has retconned her life accordingly.
We see it again and again, this pathological terror of aging particularly specific to the trans movement of now.

Be even weirder when the wind clearly blows the other way.

If she isn't dead by then, seeing her say the exact same shit over and over, but now about how she was tRicKEd bY tHe ell gee bee tee keww plus cOmMuNiTy, and it makes her incredibly sad and on the verge of tears (eyeroll).

 

[Dick Johnson]

This is kind of hard to describe but I'm sure other people will know what I mean by this-
Looking at Ellen page I feel weirdly almost physically sick with worry, like you're watching a disaster just before it's happened from too far away to do anything about it.
I have never seen someone look so much a phsycial manifestation of their own fucked up mental state, aside from like 50 year old toothless junkies who you look at and see the lifetime of abuse carved out on their body by all the choices they made because of their broken brains.

It's so weird to see her be attemtpedly held up by the media as something positive when it's so fucking clearly not. It's the same vibes as a hostage video.

Ellen Page is the person that really started my peaking journey. A year and a half ago, maybe, I was reading an article on Jezebel that was a puff piece to shill her book (The main text of the article was something along the lines of 'Brett Ratner one time said he could probably fuck the gay out of me or something if I wanted him to') and a commenter remarked "Oh, it's so nice to see him looking happy again." I went back up to the header image and it was what I remembered - a really wan smile. It was not the look of someone for whom everything is coming up Elliot.

It was not that hard to find pictures of Ellen Page looking much happier, while it remains that case that Elliot looks miserable more often than not. It was what really planted the seed of an idea that would later germinate after being watered with reading various studies about transgenderism and autism, Cluster B personality disorders and psychiatric diagnoses: trans people, as a demographic, are the most likely to be unreliable narrators in their own stories.

It's why 'listen to trans people' doesn't hold that much water for me, and it's thanks to Ellen: "I'm finally living as myself!" she proclaims with a voice that sounds on the verge of tears. And I wonder how many other people have had similar reactions to her.

Also, she looks like a boy who stopped growing up at twelve and just started getting old. No puberty, no teenage growth spurt. Just an old child.

 

[ATI Escapee]

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She looks like death now. You can see the outline of her cheekbones and temple.

I think getting her brows surgically lowered and some meat put behind them would help (if thats even a thing) with whatever is up with her very feminine eyes. Ironically I even think wearing some eyeliner might make her eyes more masculine, idk. Gosh she looks so sick. Just horrifying.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Also, she looks like a boy who stopped growing up at twelve and just started getting old. No puberty, no teenage growth spurt. Just an old child.

I'm wondering if some women have a really bad reaction to Testosterone (all women have a bad reaction, but I mean like even more than normal) and it causes premature aging, because I've seen quite a few Pooners that start to look like they have aged catastrophically after a little while on Testosterone.
TentacleDick/Gruffin is another example,

Spoiler: TentacleDick Medical Disaster

(although in TentacleDicks case she has completely fucked her system, her rotdog caused multiple UTI's, which led to kidney failure, which means she's on dialysis constantly, which caused heart attacks, basically she's dying because she wanted a rotdog, no regrets though uWu)

of a person who looks drastically aged, Gruffins rotdog has destroyed her system and will be what kills her, but she also has this weird prematurely aged look to her that Ellen does, its just TentacleDick has some kind of syndrome and kidney failure too, she looks like a little bald baby, like one of those people with those diseases that ages them in reverse.

You can see the sudden drastic aging in Ellen after her Poonerization, she's aged 20 years in the past 4 years, maybe its stress and depression (living her best life, never happier uWu) but I'd bet a toxic level of exogenous Testosterone thats completely excessive and alien to her female endocrine system has done most of it.

Its tragic that Pooners like Ellen are encouraged by society to destroy themselves by fully embracing a delusional thought process instead of trying to deal with it and work out whatever self loathing and hatred they have to allow them to feel comfortable in their own skin.
Its hard to feel sorry for Ellen as she's a bitter, preachy shrew that would go out of her way to destroy the life and career of anyone who actually told her the truth and refused to coddle her, but the fact is she is a seriously deranged, self hating woman that has been totally failed and exploited by a medical system that sees these retards as easy marks and constant income, instead of fulfilling any kind of Hypocratic Duty of Care with them.
Its barbaric. Ellen should be on anti psychotics and getting exposure therapy for her Beaver problem, not Testosterone and asspats for being such a manly little dood.

 

[Marc]

I think the target demographic is ultimately just as susceptible to the suggestion of eating their own shit; and merely haven't encountered enough subreddit or discord communities using the practice of eating their own shit as a flimsy pretense for sexualizing children to have sold themselves on the notion that eating their own shit is stunning, brave, and immediate absolution from a life not well-lived.

 

[TractorGirl]

She looks like a dyke with no tits and a bad haircut. Nothing masculine to see here.

 

[Marc]

I'd agree wholeheartedly if it wasn't missing one, additional, crucial descriptor:

She looks like a dyke with no tits and cancer which has finally spread to her bones and brain and a bad haircut. Nothing masculine to see here.

Gord Downie in his final days looked better than what we've seen of the trans joy Ellen has been photographed emanating since receiving a series of symmetrical torso implants to affirm her identity as an ice cube tray.

 

[batteredpancakes]

she's aged 20 years in the past 4 years, maybe its stress and depression (living her best life, never happier uWu)

2021 (before T) vs 2024

I've never heard of any FTMs talk about their T dosage being measured based on weight. Maybe she's taking a lot for her stature.
I could see her refusing to be weighed and just giving an unrealistic weight to her doctor even if it is taken into consideration.

 

[Procrastinhater]

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I've never heard of any FTMs talk about their T dosage being measured based on weight. Maybe she's taking a lot for her stature.
I could see her refusing to be weighed and just giving an unrealistic weight to her doctor even if it is taken into consideration.

See you can see its having some definite deleterious effect on her, theres a marked difference, its like its sucking the life out of her.
I'm not a doctor but it looks like its damaged her internal organs, she looks anorexic but its more than that, she looks like she's got toxin build up, its hard to describe (again, not a doctor) but the difference in pre T to post T in these pictures is striking, she looks fucked.
She's a lab experiment, all Pooners are, but if this is what happens to a rich one with access to (presumably) the best medical care... its fucked.
She's fucked.

From her book she's obviously always been a fucking headcase, but she needed help not... this.
There's a reason you don't agree with your psychotic Grandpa that, yes, Pops, the Squirrels are working for the CIA and they really do have cameras in their eyes to keep tabs on you. It doesn't help delusional people to play along with and reinforce their delusions, even if it is traumatic for them to have those delusions challenged, its not being kind to poison these people and mutilate them, its a fucking atrocity.
Look at her ffs.

Look at what she used to be like before her brain got poisoned by this Pooner shit.

Ok she was always neurotic but fuck man, she could have been helped, she could have worked through that shit.
She's a vindictive and histrionic fag activist sure, but she didn't deserve to be poisoned and turned into a sideshow freak.

 

[PetiteFeet]

It's kind of insane to me how feminine and relatively cute she was Pre-T but post short hair cut. It's not the best hairstyle for her at all but she could've worked with it and be a butch dyke or even just a butch straight girl (I still hold she's bi but scared of men because of sexual assault)
Testosterone truly fucks up a woman's body. Poonerism, not even once.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I'd agree wholeheartedly if it wasn't missing one, additional, crucial descriptor:



Gord Downie in his final days looked better than what we've seen of the trans joy Ellen has been photographed emanating since receiving a series of symmetrical torso implants to affirm her identity as an ice cube tray.

She's not even giving dyke or anything close, for me.
She looks like chemotherapy made into it's own person.. Made manifest.. Womanifest? Doodifest.

 

[Marc]

she didn't deserve to be poisoned and turned into a sideshow freak.

Ellen clearly feels that she did - provided you use her preferred euphemisms to describe her circumstances (instead of plain english). The magical thinking aspect is in presuming that changing the language permitted to be used in the course of describing the problem changes the problem. This isn't a Wittgenstein-level philosophical issue - It's a woman rationalizing becoming the penis she's afraid of; like Batman.

Clearly, Ellen considered Ellen to be the through line problem - but was too big of a narcissist to kill her off in the traditional manner. That's why it hasn't been effective.

 

[one_time_user]

She looks dessicated

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Its barbaric. Ellen should be on anti psychotics and getting exposure therapy for her Beaver problem, not Testosterone and asspats for being such a manly little dood.

When do you reckon she'll start the next Hollywood shootout?

 

[pink cigarettes]

Ellen looks like a chemo troll because she's a miserable lesbian on cross-sex hormones who starves herself. But also, during her earlier interviews and appearances like this one....

....some genius put flesh-toned lipstick on her in an effort to make her look more masculine. Instead, she looks like a drowning victim. The carefully arranged, forehead-pasted bangs don't help either.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Like so many troons Page thought that the transition was some kind of magic bullet that would fix all her issues all at once.

But the transition came and went and even after she still feels that nagging emptiness and grinding sorrow that she always had

I see it in so so many troons and pooners who place all their hope on the magic that they think surgery will be. But then they come out the other side and after the euphoric glow fades they are just as depressed, just as alone and just as twisted as they were before but no they have the added issues of dealing with a body maimed and distorted and a society that looks at them askew at best and a horrific freak at worse.

But it's the easy way out. Rather then admitting they have deep seated psychological issues that need intensive and more importantly earnest effort on their part they can just say "I was born in the wrong body, that's why I'm so miserable, so alone and so desperate to be loved" and take the easy route.

However personal growth never comes easy. It comes through struggle, hardships, darkness and honest effort which these poorer types do everything to avoid.

I think the pooners and or troons all turn out like this because becoming the opposite sex is the easy way to deal with their mental issues but we all know nothing easy is worth it and in the long run the easy route often costs far more then anyone can afford.

 

[Marc]

For many, the Internet is purely an alternative to getting better.

She looks dessicated

She could identify as a cactus and still be wet on the inside.

 

[Procrastinhater]

She looks dessicated

She looks like she's been sealed up in a barrel filled with Natron and whatever other shit they used to make mummies in Egypt, with a few of those silica dessicant packs that come with sneakers thrown in for good measure.
Another poster called her a "sad shoe insole" and its always stuck with me.

 

[PetiteFeet]

It's a woman rationalizing becoming the penis she's afraid of; like Batman.

random txt worthy.

Like so many troons Page thought that the transition was some kind of magic bullet that would fix all her issues all at once.

Honestly I don't even think this is a tranny-only problem. I've met a lot of people, medical professionals or mental health sufferers and even quite ordinary people who suffered from a mental break at some point in their lives, who think anti-depressants or other drugs are a fix-all solution that suddenly, magically fixes whatever ails you.
It's simply not the truth. Medicine CAN be used to treat mental illness, in some cases it's quite necessary for a person to even have a normal life like paranoid schizophrenics that hear voices or people who experience delusions, but it should always be used as PART of a treatment plan. It's like a crutch for someone who's broken a leg, you don't just rely on the crutch. No, you put a cast on a broken bone to help it mend correctly and the crutch is to help you while your bone is mending. Of course, we can debate whether SSRI's are legit or not, but that's another conversation entirely.

I think trannies have gaslighted themselves into thinking HRT and transitioning is the fix-all to their issue. Same with bottom or top surgery. "If I keep going with my transition, I will wake up and be happy, and be a real boy!"
Trannies also experience some kind of sunk cost fallacy the further they get. You can't regrow a penis so you either suck up that you were wrong and that it didn't fix your shit, or you keep going until you kill yourself because you've been ignoring the elephant in the room - the fact that your "dysphoria" wasn't real and you should've seen a therapist to help you accept your sex.

Again, I'd feel sorry for someone like Page because she's clearly mentally unwell. But I stop feeling sorry for her when she started advocating for children to go through the same bullshit that she's put herself through. That's the one thing I'll never understand about trannies.

 

[Paper Machete]

Again, I'd feel sorry for someone like Page because she's clearly mentally unwell. But I stop feeling sorry for her when she started advocating for children to go through the same bullshit that she's put herself through. That's the one thing I'll never understand about trannies.

I think believing it's okay for children is part of their sunk cost fallacy as well, and that's on the more "innocent" side of things. They have to believe that this isn't something they are doing as an adult for adult reasons, reasons that developed over time and are not innate to them. If they did that they might start thinking where they went wrong or the people pointing out they easily could've just not chosen to go down the road they have would be right. They'd have to face the fact they've surgically and chemically altered themselves permanently as a choice (and perhaps it was the wrong one). If you believe something is innate then it's been with you since birth and therefor that means children can be X thing too.

It's also why if you are against children being transitioned you have to be against adults transitioning as well. It's not simply a matter of people over 18 getting cosmetic surgeries they want. It's a belief system. One that sells the idea that trans in innate to a person. Things innate and natural for a person are with you since birth so therefor thinking there are adults for whom it's the natural thing is also believing there are children for whom it's a natural thing.

The types of surgeries trans go through isn't like regretting a simple boob job or a tattoo. Some boob jobs can be reversed, tattoos can be covered up or removed, or you can just live with the fact they're there but you don't like the look of them anymore. These things don't necessarily have to get in the way of a good life despite the regret over them. You can still live the same life you would've anyway, be just as active, just with an aesthetic point you're no longer as into. But getting your genitals mutilated? You can't take that back--they just no longer function anymore. Permanent changes like bone problems from PBs? A double mastectomy? Getting your jaw and brow ridge shaved off and that causing issues? Fertility issues/straight up becoming infertile? Those aren't things you can shrug off. They've permanently changed your physical functioning and reliance on medical care. They've also likely permanently changed your romantic prospects and sex life. Even if you can find someone who will settle down with you the sex life and way you'll connect with your bodies generally just isn't going to be the same as they would've before. And I think one of the reasons there aren't more detransitioners (at least vocal ones) is because this is a lot of realize you decided to go for. You have to continue on in the faith because the ego death and coming to terms with what has been done with your body and what that really means is soul crushing. And I think this is one of the reasons it's better to get info out there to keep people from starting on the path at all than to get those already on off. The HSTS that have gotten all the surgeries are typically too far gone. And AGPs who haven't had any surgeries are all crazy in a way you can't fix even if you forced them to stop crossdressing publicly.

EDA: I wish we had more concrete terms for the female versions of HSTS/AGP because it's clear they exist.