Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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She already had a marvel role as sanctimonious cunt Kitty Pride in x-men 3 and she was ok because the role fit her right. I hope she gets cast as her again and starts to call people a nigga with the hard r as Kitty did back in the 80s.

I hate to be that person, but... Couldn't he found more Mediterranean looking actors and actresses? I'm not saying Greek specifically, or even Mediterraneans, just that they'd look that part enough.
Why is no one making this TV series? Granted, I wouldn't want them to because it would be infested with
You both need to watch the superior version with Armand Assante and Greta Scacchi if you haven't. Superior casting and good adaptation overall.
 
The first time I saw this guy, I didn't even realize that he was a tranny until I saw that people kept referring to him as "she" and looked him up. He just looks like a twink with long hair and he even has a name that's more common among men.

That being said, I definitely think Hollywood should cast him as Mystique and Ellen as some MCU character who's known for being MANLY with MUSCLES, just to piss people off and make them want to spend even less money on the soulless and unimaginative productions that are coming out of the Hollywood machinery nowadays.
 
That being said, I definitely think Hollywood should cast him as Mystique and Ellen as some MCU character who's known for being MANLY with MUSCLES, just to piss people off and make them want to spend even less money on the soulless and unimaginative productions that are coming out of the Hollywood machinery nowadays.
Wolverine is perfect for her bc he's a shorty, so people will finally have their "comic accurate Wolverine".

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Christ…this woman really is a sad case, isn’t she? Re-watching that ‘message to my younger self’ video is haunting. Body language does not lie, and no matter how much she says she’s happy these days, it couldn’t be more obvious that even she doesn’t believe it, and is struggling to convince herself that she didn’t make a horrendous, irreversible mistake.

With regard to her being cast in some upcoming MCU capeshit, I’m of the belief that whoever is making that decision secretly hates her, and badly wants for her to be turned into an object of ridicule (even more than she is now). It’s not even about fulfilling DEI quotas at this point- they just want to play a good old-fashioned round of Kick The Autist. I’m not even opposed to it. If Hollywood is going to continue to commit slow suicide, we should at least get some worthwhile laughs out of it.

Despite my zero-tolerance for troons, pooners, and their associated horseshit, I don’t hate Ellen quite as much. Virtually every troon on and off this website I consider highly detestable, and while she’s doing the unforgivable by way of spreading her mind virus to weak-minded individuals and impressionable children…she lacks the perverse conviction that the rest of them have in spades. She’s so obviously broken as a human, and is flexing her transness as a coping mechanism to try and distract herself from facing the reality that she’s utterly destroyed her life. It’s quite depressing.

Seriously, this is what plays in my head whenever I see her:
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Jesus Christ, Ellen. You done goofed.
 
Christ…this woman really is a sad case, isn’t she? Re-watching that ‘message to my younger self’ video is haunting. Body language does not lie, and no matter how much she says she’s happy these days, it couldn’t be more obvious that even she doesn’t believe it, and is struggling to convince herself that she didn’t make a horrendous, irreversible mistake.

With regard to her being cast in some upcoming MCU capeshit, I’m of the belief that whoever is making that decision secretly hates her, and badly wants for her to be turned into an object of ridicule (even more than she is now). It’s not even about fulfilling DEI quotas at this point- they just want to play a good old-fashioned round of Kick The Autist. I’m not even opposed to it. If Hollywood is going to continue to commit slow suicide, we should at least get some worthwhile laughs out of it.

Despite my zero-tolerance for troons, pooners, and their associated horseshit, I don’t hate Ellen quite as much. Virtually every troon on and off this website I consider highly detestable, and while she’s doing the unforgivable by way of spreading her mind virus to weak-minded individuals and impressionable children…she lacks the perverse conviction that the rest of them have in spades. She’s so obviously broken as a human, and is flexing her transness as a coping mechanism to try and distract herself from facing the reality that she’s utterly destroyed her life. It’s quite depressing.

Seriously, this is what plays in my head whenever I see her:
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Jesus Christ, Ellen. You done goofed.
Pretty much the way I feel about her.
While her continued advocacy for a Cult that has clearly destroyed her is despicable, I can't even be angry with her, she's a fucking wreck. She's clearly an extremely broken, neurotic ruin of a person thats so consumed by self loathing she's trying to destroy everything she was in an attempt to hide from what she is.

Don't get me wrong, she's a vindictive, twisted little Pooner thats dedicated to spreading a truly evil, amoral social infection, but she's just such a fundamentally broken person she's not even worth hating. All I feel for Ellen is bemused contempt.

Also to see her take her place as the star in the Conan reboot
You both need to watch the superior version with Armand Assante and Greta Scacchi if you haven't. Superior casting and good adaptation overall.
Second that, its hand down the best version of the Odyssey ever made.
 
Oh, also, as an extra. Chapter 21, The Healthy Way. By far the shortest chapter in the book, only two pages.

You think Ellen is done talking about how many times she had sex in her life? Think again. This short chapter is all about her first lesbian sex experience! In a small restaurant called Healthy Way in which Ellen went with this girl called Jessica. And uuuh... that's about it. There's nothing really much I can add to this. She just has sex in this chapter, I'll share literally the entire chapter in a few screenshots.

But there is something to add, she adds the first time she had her first kiss with a woman.

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She describes how much she enjoyed that kiss. But she obviously messed things up once again because of how shy she was.

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Sometime later... she met with the same girl in a party. And then they kissed again, and it was different...

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And to end the chapter... the sex happens.


And a little reflection on how this was a stunning and brave experience.

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And uh... That's about it. Do you... feel excited for the next chapter?
Good lord. Even if I believed half of anything she claims happened, the writing is SO bad. Does she not have anyone in her corner that could have said ehhh, maybe you're not that good at this?

I would feel bad if she weren't so insufferable.
 
Good lord. Even if I believed half of anything she claims happened, the writing is SO bad. Does she not have anyone in her corner that could have said ehhh, maybe you're not that good at this?

I would feel bad if she weren't so insufferable.
I don't understand why she couldn't find a decent ghostwriter and proper editor. I've read a few sentences and I can't read anymore. The writing is just that bad. I've seen a few pooners praising the book, claiming they have read it and it was amazing. I very much doubt they were telling the truth. I barely believe they read actual books to begin with tbh, but this book specifically, I just find it hard to believe anyone is reading it for their own pleasure.
 
I don't understand why she couldn't find a decent ghostwriter and proper editor. I've read a few sentences and I can't read anymore. The writing is just that bad. I've seen a few pooners praising the book, claiming they have read it and it was amazing. I very much doubt they were telling the truth. I barely believe they read actual books to begin with tbh, but this book specifically, I just find it hard to believe anyone is reading it for their own pleasure.
If you're a narcissist who believes yourself to be a part of some artiste class would you be of a mind to consider your written skills subpar enough to need help? Every writer that sucks ass has one thing in common: they think they're good.
 
Alright, I pushed some extra energy out of me to go through this one, so buckle up, this is going to be a long one.

Chapter 22, Flatliners.

In this chapter, Ellen talks about her experiences during the shooting of a movie that she was in, Flatliners. The garbage remake of the 1990 movie.

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When we start the chapter, she mentions an anecdote involving someone else who was in the production, named Kiersey (Clemons).

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We're two paragraphs in and Ellen fucks up the timeline, since Flatliners is a 1990, not from the 80s, and the way she's describing the movie it almost reads like she's low-key advertising it.

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She mentions one of the times when the movie was almost a mess because of how terrible the production was. I have to reread this part because she doesn't mention which one of the movies had the worst production. In this part, she recalls a part when they were doing a car stunt with her colleagues, apparently everyone had thick seat belts except the two of them. She even rightfully called it out.

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Very quickly they noticed how awful things would turn out for both of them, as the director wanted "genuine" reactions from them.

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But apparently she was willing to see it because she wanted the thrill at the beginning?

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All of it because she was a thrillseeker, so much of a badass that she watches POV videos of rollercoasters just to see how it's the experience of riding one. Even her friends call her "the mayor of Six Flags Magic Mountain" (because that's how teenagers talk, of course), and she tends to bring them to those rollercoasters. She loves the thrill.

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But this was too much for her.
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And to be fair to her, this is sounds actually nighmarish if this was exactly how it happened, I can't imagine myself doing this.

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After the cut, she and Kirsey were in shock for the deranged experience. It was more than they anticipated.

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And they didn't have the time to even process or even protest on what happened before they started rolling again with the shooting of the scene.

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The only positive thing about that experience is that she and Kiersey got closer together and started speaking about this experience and how they should've handled it.

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Ellen says that he should've quit way before because someone decided to be based with Kiersley, saying that she only got the role because she was black. Obviously, she didn't said nothing during the time. Because that's what activists tend to do.

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And now we're back with her becoming spastic because having to use dresses, but just a little though. And actually giving a good reason with her not using the clothes, arguing that because this movie is about medicine students and the movie in-universe happened in just a couple of days, there is no reason for the character to be using these kind of clothes, but obviously, she was bitching about how she has to be "fixed" since "the problem was her". Classic victimist behavior.

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And then, things gets spicy on this chapter, because we have something that we never seen before in this book yet. ELLEN MAD!

It started when Ellen and the crew of the movie were reading the script. Everything seemed normal at first, having everything ready before going further into the role.

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When the crew was getting ready to go. One of the producers wanted to speak with her a little bit about something. When she acommodated herself in the office, the producer started talking, and the first sentences already made Ellen know that things were gonna go south in a hurry when the producer started talking about gay people.

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And then the producer drops the bomb on her.

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And this set off Ellen in a big way, first she was shocked and dissapointed, and then she got BIG MAD. (Or little big mad?) She even swore in the exchange! And she even saw him as queerphobic, whatever the fuck that means.

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And then she destroyed the producer with Facts and Logic! Almost telling him to check his privileges in a way and owning him. I'll take "Bullshit that didn't happened" for 1000$, Alex.

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And she became stunning and brave by destroying him with Facts and Logic! Ellen was MERCILESS. She unloaded all the frustrations and rage towards bigots on him.

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But for some weird reason, she decided to go along with it after all of that hoopla about accusing the producer of being a bigot and a "queerphobic", so I think it's safe to say that everything that happened here is just something that happened in her tiny head.

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And then for some reason, she puts a poem-like thing written between this and the next story. But it's more victimist faggotry that I guess she wrote to herself.

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Days later, a photoshoot was coming, and her was getting ready for it even though she was starting to get ready for it. Now, you read at this and tell me if this is just the trans boy wanting to come out or someone getting serious BPD about the situation.

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And then the shooting happened. Finally getting some wardrobes for her, feeling powerful that she managed to get her way finally with the producers, like a stunning and brave lesbian woman,

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But then, the eeevil producer man appeared again to her. And he showed her photos of Ellen when she had long hair, something that the Lil' Dood didn't liked one bit.

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She retaliated once again.

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And this was the last straw for Ellen, since she didn't want to see the photos... She just left the production! Right there, she was pissed and left. And that's how we actually end the chapter!

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This chapter eroded the sympathy I had for Ellen since previous chapter, deleting it entirely.
From the looks of it, the production was just a bunch of stupid assholes, but that's to be expected from a presumably Hollywood production. But we fall back to the same thing, Ellen going upset for the wrong reasons.

Doing a dangerous stunt that could have hurt me horribly? A-Okay.
Someone wants to make me wear dresses and look prettier with long hair? Fucking unacceptable, time to scorch the earth with production and get out of here.

Give me a break, Ellen.
 
If you're a narcissist who believes yourself to be a part of some artiste class would you be of a mind to consider your written skills subpar enough to need help? Every writer that sucks ass has one thing in common: they think they're good.
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Angry pepperoni grinding noises
Doing a dangerous stunt that could have hurt me horribly? A-Okay.
Someone wants to make me wear dresses and look prettier with long hair? Fucking unacceptable, time to scorch the earth with production and get out of here.

Give me a break, Ellen.
This crazy bitch really has her priorities all back assward.
 
There are actors who are like this and they're often pretty broken: they accept do things they know they're dangerous or make them uncomfortable (e.g. sex scenes) without saying a word because the director "knows best", but ask them something simple like act sexy and it's like the sky is falling.

Brie Larson is another example.

"I do my own stunts, but don't ask me to smile, that's sexist."
 
Bitching in a memoir as a prelude for gay sex doesn't help elicit sympathy... but actors & actresses really are asked to do a lot more than they should and sometimes get completely fucked in the process. Uma Thurman got back fucked after filming a car crash for Kill Bill, more recently Ruby Rose got her spine cracked doing Batwoman on CW. Then there's the worst DEI death of some black chick stunt driver in Deadpool 2 (who was trained in racing not stunts) died because they wanted her driving with no helmet to show she had real blackness.
 
I don't understand why she couldn't find a decent ghostwriter and proper editor. I've read a few sentences and I can't read anymore. The writing is just that bad. I've seen a few pooners praising the book, claiming they have read it and it was amazing. I very much doubt they were telling the truth. I barely believe they read actual books to begin with tbh, but this book specifically, I just find it hard to believe anyone is reading it for their own pleasure.
Most celebrity memoirs aren't really meant to be read; they're just manufactured to exist as these ephemeral kitschy artifacts that are absentmindedly bought then entirely forgotten. The times when actual effort is put into these things are the exception rather than the rule.
 
I actually can see this being somewhat true.
I can imagine one of the group, a fed-up teenage girl, saying "Oh my God Ellen! You do this every time! Anyone would think you were (air quotes) "The Mayor of Six Flags Magic Mountain" and then for months after, everytime she is being insufferable one of the cattier girls would call her "Mayor of Six Flags Magic Mountain" and laughing behind her back (or right to her face) because she thinks they're complimenting her.
Yet again she misunderstands a social situation because she is too narcissistic to believe anyone could see the world differently than her.

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Actors don't get a say in wardrobe usually. The whole issue people have with Blake Lively now is that she believed she knew better than the other departments who were hired to execute what the producers were paying for. It's ludicrous to believe you won't be asked to wear things you normally wouldn't or style yourself differently. ACTING.

I think both Ellen and the producer were acting unprofessionally at points, but if she has such a problem with such a basic job task, she really needs to negotiate having a say-so in her look beforehand. Not that this will ever be a problem for her again, as she is unemployable.
 
Actors don't get a say in wardrobe usually. The whole issue people have with Blake Lively now is that she believed she knew better than the other departments who were hired to execute what the producers were paying for. It's ludicrous to believe you won't be asked to wear things you normally wouldn't or style yourself differently. ACTING.

I think both Ellen and the producer were acting unprofessionally at points, but if she has such a problem with such a basic job task, she really needs to negotiate having a say-so in her look beforehand. Not that this will ever be a problem for her again, as she is unemployable.
It can depend on the production. Some sets will allow actors a bit of creative input - "I feel this character wouldn't wear something like that". Ellen did actually allude to something along those lines -
The rack for Page, who plays Vanya – Number Seven, a violinist with no apparent superpowers – is the plainest. Striped shirts, classic blazers, straight-legged pants, all in muted hues. That look – practical, clean, the way a lot of women dress, and also psychologically true to a person who doesn’t try to call attention to herself – is something Page saw in the character. It’s also how she, as a woman, “exists in the world,” she says.
In my opinion the costuming in Season 1 made a lot of sense
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It tells you something about the characters, and in Ellen's case it contrasts her with the other women - her glamorous sister, the 1950s housewife robot, the assassin who wears sleekly tailored menswear. Ellen's sort of frumpy and awkward because her character is insecure, shy and feels like an outsider. I don't think giving her a skirt would have really added much to the visual storytelling.
Part of the problem though was Ellen's rationale behind it -
But the cover of The Umbrella Academy graphic novel – written by Gerard Way, illustrated by Gabriel Ba – upon which the series is based, shows a very different Vanya: a Beyoncé body in a skin-tight white catsuit. That was one of the first things Page addressed in her initial, exploratory phone call with the series’ showrunner, Steve Blackman. “I said, ‘Just so you know, I would need to be able to decide how I want to dress,’” Page recalled in a phone interview this week. “He said, ‘Of course, I want you to be comfortable.’” She makes a small amazed noise. "In my experience, that’s unheard of.” On other projects, “I’ve had so many horrible misogynistic, homophobic debates about what I’m going to wear. TV and film can be so binary and gendered. To be able to have women in stories who exist in the way I do – that may sound small or insignificant, but it’s major for me.”
Then it's less about "I don't think the character would wear this" and becomes "I don't want to wear this", which is what comes through with Flatliners.
 
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. I don't think giving her a skirt would have really added much to the visual storytelling.
I remember Vanya wearing a skirt in the comics, it was a long one though. She still looked like someone who didn't want attention.

The showrunners made a lot of changes from the original material to make it more palatable to the audiences and to be able to explore more of the characters' reasonings, emotions and connections. The comics are crazy and fast-paced, but have some aspects that I wish were explored in the show, such as Vanya teenage years, when she had a punk rock band with The Kraken.

But now I am wondering which of those changes were made because of Ellen before The Pooning. Was it just the clothes or also her personality?

I am not particularly mad at White Violin's outfit though. It would never work on her. Ellen is built like a cereal box.
 
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