Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.

Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 29 2.5%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 305 26.6%
  • Us, and the friends we made along the way

    Votes: 814 70.9%

  • Total voters
    1,148
for some reason elon and trump stans feel the need to come and suck their cocks. this doesn't happen with any other lolcow because it's would be obvious how retarded you are if you went into a chris chan thread and genuinely thought he was cool
People can't separate the hilarious and retarded parts of people from the MUH RED TEAM BLUE TEAM garbage. Elon Musk is a ridiculous person. He was a ridiculous person when he was a Democrat proposing hyperloops, hiring a PR firm to get him on the big bang theory/rick and morty and claiming FSD was next year for sure in 2015. He is a ridiculous person when he's on his 13th IVF abomination and running a zoomer audit of the frfrderal government while still claiming FSD is next year in 2025.

I encourage all stans to take a step back and consider decoupling your party affiliation from your ability to mock an autistic retard for doing autistic retarded shit. Nobody was out here saying WE CANT MAKE FUN OF CHRIS CHAN BECAUSE HE HATES THE NIGGOS TOO before he trooned.
 
I've been through atleast 10 layoffs organized by consulting companies. They all come through to improve efficiency and cut costs. They cut a bunch of jobs, roll out the PowerPoints saying we saved X amount of dollars. C-suite reports it to the street and the investors are pleased.

Meanwhile the consultants had no idea how anything works and eventually over time you see the jobs that were cut come back because they were actually needed.

This feels like what DOGE/Elon is doing. Cut the jobs, get the exciting numbers, but then after that the orgs will morph back into what they were before. You'll only hear about the former though.
Just wanted to highlight this because I think it's pretty relevant.

I can sympathize with the posts talking about being frustrated with the status quo or whatever, and maybe this is an overly cynical take, but I feel like things are still going to end up being fairly status quo. Musk isn't really looking to fix anything, he's just grabbing at "gotchas" to win the culture war and farm upvotes. Like, he's identifying things he things are wrong, but I haven't heard much about how they're going to fix things. Just firing a bunch of people isn't a solution, especially if those same people end up quietly getting hired back when they realize cutting them in the first place was a mistake.

Musk just isn't the dude for the job. I know it feels like it's impossible at this point to fix the government, but it wasn't that long ago all things considered where we had a surplus, and a big part of that was focusing on actual government efficiency and reform and the two parties begrudgingly working together on the budget.

Musk is too focused on being the hero. It's exactly like when those kids were trapped in a cave and Musk inserted himself into everything because he wanted to be the one to rescue them, and he got all pissy and accused one of the divers on the actual rescue team of being a pedo when Musk couldn't just rich a solution into exist after a few days. He's too desperate for validation and short term results to oversee any sort of lengthy and complex project.
 
[Speaks very slowly]
Revenue went up(80's), or stayed flat(post 9/11) during the time you assert it should have gone down.
The debt chart(spending) has no connection to revenue, the last time that happened was the 90's 'Contract with America' US House Majority, Clinton presidency.
I know it's from Wikipedia but you can check the citations, they're legit.
  • The US Federal Tax Revenue as % of the GDP decreased from 18.5 to 17.4 from 1980 to 1990.[10] However, actual tax revenue increased from $517 billion up to $1.0 trillion as the GDP more than doubled, growing by 109% (from $2,857 trillion to $5,963 trillion) during this time period.
  • The budget deficit increased from $74 billion in 1980 to $221 billion in 1990.[10]
  • The budget deficit as a % of GDP increased from 2.6% in 1980 to 2.7% in 1989.
  • The national debt as a percentage of GDP increased by 62% from 30.9% in 1981 when Reagan took office to 49.9% when he left.[11]
  • Median real wages dropped by 0.6% by 1990, as compared with 1980.[12] However, Reagan's term was from 1981 to 1989. During that term, the same graph referenced here (#12 but from 1981 to 1989) shows that Median Real Wages Increased by 2.5% (from $314 to $322).
for some reason elon and trump stans feel the need to come and suck their cocks. this doesn't happen with any other lolcow because it's would be obvious how retarded you are if you went into a chris chan thread and genuinely thought he was cool
It's mainly being a fan. There's, for example, plenty of embarrassing Drake fans that are ride or die for him even though shit has gone completely sour for him.
People can't separate the hilarious and retarded parts of people from the MUH RED TEAM BLUE TEAM garbage. Elon Musk is a ridiculous person. He was a ridiculous person when he was a Democrat proposing hyperloops, hiring a PR firm to get him on the big bang theory/rick and morty and claiming FSD was next year for sure in 2015. He is a ridiculous person when he's on his 13th IVF abomination and running a zoomer audit of the frfrderal government while still claiming FSD is next year in 2025.

I encourage all stans to take a step back and consider decoupling your party affiliation from your ability to mock an autistic retard for doing autistic retarded shit. Nobody was out here saying WE CANT MAKE FUN OF CHRIS CHAN BECAUSE HE HATES THE NIGGOS TOO before he trooned.
This is why I've been a Musk hater from the day I saw him.
 
I know it's from Wikipedia but you can check the citations, they're legit.
However, actual tax revenue increased from $517 billion up to $1.0 trillion as the GDP more than doubled, growing by 109% (from $2,857 trillion to $5,963 trillion) during this time period.
Don't stop reading in the middle of paragraphs.

Let me shortcut this for you, your current team cope is: Line would have gone up more, without the cuts.
 
I mean I hate the government and IRS as much as the next red-blooded American, but I could also believe Elon isn't getting all the right information or is just fudging shit to further ingratiate himself with Trump. His judgement in other areas, specifically women, clearly isn't great considering he loves fucking BPD powderkegs half his age. I'm just here for the shitshow this thread's turned into, HHH never fails to bring the kino. :semperfidelis:
 
Don't stop reading in the middle of paragraphs.

Let me shortcut this for you, your current team cope is: Line would have gone up more, without the cuts.
Sorta.
1739850019071.png
I mean I hate the government and IRS as much as the next red-blooded American, but I could also believe Elon isn't getting all the right information or is just fudging shit to further ingratiate himself with Trump. His judgement in other areas, specifically women, clearly isn't great considering he loves fucking BPD powderkegs half his age. I'm just here for the shitshow this thread's turned into, HHH never fails to bring the kino. :semperfidelis:
Don't forget car design, or workers safety.
 
Does this thread really hate Elon Musk so much they're deluding themselves into believing that the social security administration is running properly as the community happenings post suggested?
My choices aren't good, it's the autistic spaz and his team of nerds vs. the Government who wants me broke and buried. I'll take my chances with the spaz.

It's okay guize
The federal employees say they aren't wasting billions of dollars
They have totally earned my trust

Yes. This thread is TES little brother.
hogrider.gif
Posting about this in community happenings summoned the cumbrain golems who can't handle even 1 singular thing being proven wrong
 
I think some of the tourists here would benefit from knowing that Elon is proven fake faggot, just over a month ago. Not on his promises for FSD, Boring Tunnels, or even rockets. No, something much more personal and relatable to the average sperg on here. He fakes playing games and brags about it on twitter. He's very sensitive about his "gaming cred" and has considered himself a hardcore gamer from Quake days, but he just buys his way to the top with Chinese slaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmEe3eUPWq4
 
I have a feeling they're going to be needing your autism in her new thread in PG.

Also I clicked on your link and the people who write copy for that shit are deranged. The black squiggles against the white background probably don't even register for most of their users.
Oh. There was copy in between those pretty titties?

So you can +Quote a post in this thread and insert it in a reply in different thread if it’s about that person. If you don’t know this already.

(Off topic, so I’m paying the thread toll.)
IMG_2083.jpeg

The trips of truth have spoken.
 
This thread is going really the way of the old DJT thread. Elon is a lolcow, but the people here are taking him way WAY too seriously. The fact Elon acts retarded and makes mistakes doesn't mean he can't be correct about government spending being shit or that DOGE can't do good things.

The thread seems to be wandering into being contrarian for contrarianism's sake. Trying to imply that the US Federal Government is fiscally responsible after literal decades (going back multiple administrations, both R and D) of people seeing and knowing about how bloated, fucked and mismanaged it is just because some lolcow talked out of his ass in that position is deranged.
As you know well from the Thunderdome, I am generally well-disposed to Trump, but no I do not think that DOGE will do good things. You can tell exactly what the angle is for DOGE with how it was made into an entity in the first place. It is a rebranding of the Digital Service and the "fixers" that are being sent into the departments are using AI programs to identify this fraud, waste, and abuse. The plan is to cut the staff, and then use these programs to fill in the gaps. Programs that are, conveniently, going to be proprietary consultancy-style programs owned by XCorp or Palantir or OpenAI. I don't believe that they are being objective in their cutting, and I think that others are correct in that what will happen is that these AI programs, as all AI programs are, will prove to not be up to snuff and the departments will form back into the bureaucracy. Let me put it another way: the USAID fraud and all of the shit that came out of that did not need Elon or DOGE to be uncovered. He didn't do anything. The zoomer staffers didn't either. All of this shit was, basically, out in the open (as far as receipts in the Government go.) Trump could've found this shit first time around. I think all of this "le...AI computer" shit is retarded, and a total mask for open fraud and grift. None of that shit is real. None of that shit can replace actual people running programs and departments. They just can't. You want the Government to be even more of a robot-customer-support than it already is? I don't.

What concerns me is that a degenerate lolcow drug addict with poor judgement skills is basically the Number Two (or Number Three, I guess) of the Government. He is someone who simply cannot help himself, and once he's fixated on something he will do it. I don't see any sign of the Administration at large being willing to wrangle him or even put up guardrails. They've basically said that they're just letting him do his thing. Elon is someone that needs to get tardwrangled or you get "FSD in one year" and other pie-in-the-sky bullshit that never comes to fruition or backfires incredibly. It's because he doesn't make things, or design these things. He's a hypeman and an ideas guy, and when he's given a free rein he yanks at the lead and pulls off track.

I think he is the definition of a corrupt niggerfaggot. If that was a phrase in the dictionary, his picture would be there. I think it's incredibly suspicious that he has such prominence in the Administration considering he was a Democrat shilling for green energy and government fraud grift schemes less than a decade ago, and seems to only have shifted to Trump because his son trooned out (that he, btw, signed the fucking papers to allow.)
 
Every corporation and government on earth has your data, this isn't anything new. What is concerning is that we have an unelected figurehead of one (rather, many) of those corporations in a government position where he can directly fuck with people that he or his handler may not like, just because. Like his handler, he is a businessman and the only goal of business is to make profit. I guarantee you that anything DOGE finds will not go back into the hands of Americans, just themselves and pipers that need to be paid overseas while your grocery prices continue to rise and the administration does a victory lap over AI-created vaccine boosters that they know you hate. You might feel tempted to voice some frustrations about the current adminstration then, but by that time it won't just be trolls getting visited, it will be anyone who disagrees.
I'm not particularly inclined to trust Musk personally. Space travel is fine with me, and I am very skeptical that he's simply stupid; but I loathe transhumanism, which clearly guides his family life which I find unconscionable. There's also no reason to think he won't use his position to graft if he can, he's no stranger to government contracts. He should be on a short leash.

When it comes to what he's done to this point, I largely agree with the points Null has made. In practice, it's impossible to fund media or apply censorship in ways which are not partisan. Removing such a program without replacing it is the neutral option, as opposed to redirecting funds for those purposes to outlets aligned with one's own party. So, the cuts he has been making or attempting up to this point I find acceptable, even without expectation that the money is going straight back into my pocket, or even anywhere near it. I have no problem with anyone arguing against that, and I appreciate it because I can foresee a time when I WON'T be fine with something he's doing; right now I'm also wary of those who have vested interests in the status quo deploying arguments against those changes on the basis of an ad hominem on the person entrusted with overseeing them, or based on principles which they do not actually hold.
It's the principle of it. Elon has no oversight or accountability.
So, let's say he made a move which was unpopular and this showed up in RNC polling and made its way back up to Trump, who, as an elected official, decides to fire him. Even though Trump's not up for reelection, I'm comfortable assuming he doesn't want Democrats to take Congress in the midterms, and thus he will remain responsive to public opinion. I'm no lawyer, nor am I very experienced with the ins and outs of federal bureaucracy, so what do you think would happen then? Do you think Musk would sue to remain with DOGE? Perhaps a federal judge would issue an injunction to prevent the president from removing him or dissolving DOGE?
Elon is only there because retards like you worship him because he's a billionaire.
I wouldn't say I worship him, although I grant one would have to be at least as retarded as I to do so. One might even have to be as retarded as you!

You shit up this thread as badly as anyone else, and your helpful reminders of the rules really rub me the wrong way. You also want to threaten Null with a permaban for white knighting? I'd go as far as to say his recent posts ITT could be moved to mass debates, but you do you.
 
This smells strongly of "We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong."
The ones writing the report do think the ones being audited should and could do more, and there's apparently a ongoing effort to improve the data.
The administration isn't a monolith.

A refusal to address discrepancies because it "costs too much" and has "little benefit"? These reasons alone convince you?
It's standard to accept a certain amount of contamination, or error, because the costs of getting rid of that exponentially increases the closer you get to perfection and at some point it's more expensive to further refine things than it is to deal with whatever issues are there.

Doesn't this agency have an obligation to maintain accurate statistics?
I'd like to bring up another argument, that being basic human intuition. The average human lives no longer than a hundred years. It's incredibly rare for a person to live a decade after 100. let alone two or three decades. That's why the chart Elon posted was such a red flag.
This is about a database that interacts with a bunch of other databases and relies on data being correctly entered and automatically propagated through the system.
If nobody ever enters a death date for someone, it won't be there, and it sounds like the software wasn't designed to have a straightforward way to enter a fake death date or automatically disable numbers assigned to people who aren't listed as dead anywhere (I can think of reasons why).
I think it's plausible that remaking the whole thing can be more expensive and risky than just accepting the current amount of waste.

The DOGE MO is to get access to some agency, claim there is fraud without evidence, lie about specific examples, ignore being told that they're lies, and gut or shut down things citing the lies as justification.
That's not a sound reform process.
 
Last edited:
Back