Fallout series

Ponderous Pillock said:
The anti-grief system actually seems relatively solid but also so finicky and still totally open to exploit anyway. Bethesda's internal testing has had them actually playing on internal servers with testers picked to be griefers, they seem to be going over it fairly comprehensively even if F76 isn't quite what fans wanted. (Again, Godd Howard, we'd have liked either an MP in an "SP" map or an outright online game a la TESO).

Basically if you are shot at by another player the first time, you get a small "slap" so 5hp gets chipped off and its up to you to engage. If you return fire then it counts as a PVP encounter and both sides deal whatever damage to eachother come what may.

If you don't engage, then get killed anyway, the player who did it is marked as a murderer, the icons for all other players vanishes from the map and a bounty is created from their own pool of caps. You're then set to a permanent PVP engagement mode where any other player can come beat your ass down and take the caps.

Because the Fallout 4 style building of Camps and "group workshops" (places you can take and secure on the map) junk becomes quite useful and its that that will mostly be the loot from other players if they're killed. You get to keep your guns and armour (which as the shit they're selling will be initially cosmetics, makes sense).

So a way of this being exploited is fairly obvious, you wait for them to fight a monster, jump in the way, get slapped, return fire, nick the junk n shit they had on them and withdraw. So, to counter that they've enacted a better passive mode than the one we saw in GTA:Online, namely you still appear on the map and are about, but won't engage in any kind of PVP mode whatsoever.

Which sounds rather boring, but it works.
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They still haven't engaged the question of how they will deal of hackers as well as griefers nuking Settlements. You know what could have fixed hacking? Oh yeah, VAC, the scariest fucking anti-cheat system in existence because it bans you from every fucking game that has it. Consider that as Steam's 30% or whatever they take. Now you get to develop your own. Also, this is basically a Fallout 4 mod, so I don't expect it to be solid. Not to mention Bethesda's Fallout Engine is going to have to stand by itself. Have you ever met a Bethesda Fallout/Elder Scrolls game that could stand by itself? Nope.

Also the bounty system is HIGHLY griefable. You kill a player while plinking away at them and have a ton of your higher level friends just follow you around, murdering everyone who tries to take a hit at you. Not to mention the hilarious potential for this to be abused by hackers. I am still not convinced that this won't be a 24/7 hack fest that will be abandoned by Bethesda 6 months in to start an 'improved' Fallout MMO based on a new Engine, ala Elder Scrolls Online. They're testing the waters for a full Fallout MMO.

Apoth42 said:
Bethesda has always been pretty shit.
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It has. It always has. Its just that people have fixed their games for free and they think they can do it on their own now.
 
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Just think, Obsidian reused assets from Fallout 3 and in 18 months created New Vegas, while Bugthesda reused assets from Fallout 4 and in 3 years created their online trading card / selfie simulator.

And why didn't they show any actual combat footage at Quake con? Is it because it's buggy and laggy as shit? I guess they still need to "dial that in". But at least they showed off their trading card lootbox mechanics because that's what's important, right? I guess Todd needs to buy some more hair dye.

Yeah, Todd I know you dye your hair! I seen you during that 8 hour nothingburger livestream and you were lookin' as grey as an old mule, but at E3 your hair was a deep, shiny brown! It probably costs Todd a lot to get dye, because he has to get Pete Hines to buy it, because it says "Just for Men" on the box. If Todd try to buy it they'd throw him outta the store!
 
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scorptatious said:
Wasn’t Morrowind considered pretty good though? I’ve seen a lot of people praise that game.

Or was that AFTER the mods?
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Well, I guess that depends on what you mean by mods. Morrowind is perfectly fine without new lands/new gameplay mods or even the expansions unlike Oblivion/Skyrim, but basically everyone even near release modded the models, graphics and used the unoffical patch.
 
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BALLZ-BROKEN said:
Just think, Obsidian reused assets from Fallout 3 and in 18 months created New Vegas, while Bugthesda reused assets from Fallout 4 and in 3 years created their online trading card / selfie simulator.

And why didn't they show any actual combat footage at Quake con? Is it because it's buggy and laggy as shit? I guess they still need to "dial that in". But at least they showed off their trading card lootbox mechanics because that's what's important, right? I guess Todd needs to buy some more hair dye.

Yeah, Todd I know you dye your hair! I seen you during that 8 hour nothingburger livestream and you were lookin' as grey as an old mule, but at E3 your hair was a deep, shiny brown! It probably costs Todd a lot to get dye, because he has to get Pete Hines to buy it, because it says "Just for Men" on the box. If Todd try to buy it they'd throw him outta the store!
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Want to know something hilarious?

This guy made a mod for Fallout 4 that basically does everything F76 plans to do, FOR FREE:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/32599
 
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Mapo Tofu said:
I remember her in New Vegas.
Agh I hated Veronice voice so much and now I know why
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I've just been playing it again, and it's amazing how much of a Mary Sue she is, even in that game. Who has amazing armor and can three-punch deathclaws to death? Who is the only humanoid companion to get two perks? Who singlehandedly changes the direction of the Brotherhood? Veronica does it all.
 
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proteus4994 said:
I've just been playing it again, and it's amazing how much of a Mary Sue she is, even in that game. Who has amazing armor and can three-punch deathclaws to death? Who is the only humanoid companion to get two perks? Who singlehandedly changes the direction of the Brotherhood? Veronica does it all.
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Unless you shoot her or fuck over the BOS
 
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proteus4994 said:
I've just been playing it again, and it's amazing how much of a Mary Sue she is, even in that game. Who has amazing armor and can three-punch deathclaws to death? Who is the only humanoid companion to get two perks? Who singlehandedly changes the direction of the Brotherhood? Veronica does it all.
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Except you can murder her worthless ass.
 
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