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Mola Ram said:
Except you can murder her worthless ass.
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Actually, I'm using a 2 speaker setup instead of my normal 4 speaker setup, which for some reason causes none of the companions' voices to play through my speakers (I could fix it in Windows but this is my 2nd run through New Vegas to finally play the DLC, so I don't really give a shit). So I get all of the advantages of Veronica being super powerful with none of the downsides of having to hear Felicia Day VA her.

It's actually pretty great.
 
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I’ve never played New Vegas, but it’s next on my list. I can’t let the fact that Wil and Felicia are in it stop me. I mean, just having Colonel Tigh and Kris Motherfucking Kristofferson outweighs both of those nitwits by a country mile.
 
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proteus4994 said:
I've just been playing it again, and it's amazing how much of a Mary Sue she is, even in that game. Who has amazing armor and can three-punch deathclaws to death? Who is the only humanoid companion to get two perks? Who singlehandedly changes the direction of the Brotherhood? Veronica does it all.
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It is nicely counter balanced by the fact she's more suicidal than Boone, who has the good sense to use a sniper rifle.

Veronica always wound up getting her ass KOed trying to punch a ton of guys shooting her every time I used her. At least almost everything was dead before that happened to Boone.

So even as a Mary Sue in New Vegas Felicia Day is portrayed as a suicidal moron.
 
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GethN7 said:
So even as a Mary Sue in New Vegas Felicia Day is portrayed as a suicidal moron.
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Oh yeah, gameplay-wise, she's as stupid as most NPCs in a Bethesda-engine game.

(I'll spoiler the New Vegas sperging below)

It's just funny because if you look at the rest of the companions, they're sad sacks or losers in some way. Boone had his wife murdered, Arcade is ex-Enclave and a dork who has to hide his past or he'll be brutally murdered by the NCR, Lily is a half-step from nightkin insanity, Cass has basically been assfucked by life continually, and you initially find Raul being held hostage by a crazy super mutant.

Meanwhile, Veronica goes where she wants, when she wants, gets to go home to a nice bunker full of badass paladins if things ever get too hard for her in the wasteland, and whose biggest problem is that she disagrees with Daddy McNamera (which doesn't meaningfully impact her life in any way since apparently every OTHER Brotherhood member is on lockdown but not Veronica).

Rarely is it this obvious who the developers thought was the "coolest companion".
 
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proteus4994 said:
Rarely is it this obvious who the developers thought was the "coolest companion".
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I'd say Cass is the devs' darling since she's the only companion (in the main game) designed by MCA himself and she has by far the strongest connection to FO2.

But it's funny that after Day voiced Veronica, they decided to make the next BoS dyke a mute.
 
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garakfan69 said:
I'd say Cass is the devs' darling since she's the only companion (in the main game) designed by MCA himself and she has by far the strongest connection to FO2.

But it's funny that after Day voiced Veronica, they decided to make the next BoS dyke a mute.
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To be fair, that was a cost-cutting measure -- the New Vegas DLC was infamous for having pages upon pages of dialogue, and they likely needed to make her mute to fit her into their budget, both monetary and time-wise.

I actually don't find Veronica terribly Mary Sue-ish. She's way less powerful than Boone, her Perk is one of the less useful ones, and if you aren't a melee fighter she can get herself into some awful pickles (which is a problem if you're playing Hardcore). Further, with the exception of McNamara, almost every other Paladin seems to want to straight-up murder her.

If you want to talk about a truly godawful Felicia Day video game character, let's talk Dragon Age II. Urrk.
 
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garakfan69 said:
I'd say Cass is the devs' darling since she's the only companion (in the main game) designed by MCA himself and she has by far the strongest connection to FO2.
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That's actually a good point, Cass is the only companion who's directly connected to a previous companion. However, I never really thought she was written that strongly. Outside of "oh yeah, she's Cassidy's kid! Cool!", she never seemed particularly special or well-written to me. But then again I barely remember anything about Cass other than that she was my companion in my first run like seven years ago.

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Mola Ram said:
I actually don't find Veronica terribly Mary Sue-ish. She's way less powerful than Boone, her Perk is one of the less useful ones, and if you aren't a melee fighter she can get herself into some awful pickles (which is a problem if you're playing Hardcore).
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I agree about Hardcore, but on non-hardcore she's pretty ridiculous. Her first perk gives her the DT increase she so desperately needs, and her second (Dead Money) perk gives her Rex's knockdown ability and like a 150% increase in melee damage (edit2: melee speed, not melee damage, my bad). After she gets her two perks, I'd put her toe-to-toe against anyone including Boone. Outside of alpha Deathclaws and Super Mutant Masters, Veronica+Rex can basically clear out anything.

Sorry for the Fallout derail. It's probably the one video game series I'm a true and honest sperg about. It also doesn't help that I'm literally in the middle of playing New Vegas right now.

Edit 2: I will admit that Veronica's shared perk (the one she gives the PC) is complete garbage and outclassed by literally every other companion. Oh boy, a portable workbench. Even more useless when the DLC gives ED-E the same ability + more.
 
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proteus4994 said:
Oh yeah, gameplay-wise, she's as stupid as most NPCs in a Bethesda-engine game.

(I'll spoiler the New Vegas sperging below)

It's just funny because if you look at the rest of the companions, they're sad sacks or losers in some way. Boone had his wife murdered, Arcade is ex-Enclave and a dork who has to hide his past or he'll be brutally murdered by the NCR, Lily is a half-step from nightkin insanity, Cass has basically been assfucked by life continually, and you initially find Raul being held hostage by a crazy super mutant.

Meanwhile, Veronica goes where she wants, when she wants, gets to go home to a nice bunker full of badass paladins if things ever get too hard for her in the wasteland, and whose biggest problem is that she disagrees with Daddy McNamera (which doesn't meaningfully impact her life in any way since apparently every OTHER Brotherhood member is on lockdown but not Veronica).

Rarely is it this obvious who the developers thought was the "coolest companion".
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You're referring to Raul, right? Because Ghoul Vaquero is kind of fucking hard to top.
 
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You know, as far as gameplay and story goes I thought they had a decent balance going with Veronica. The thing that really bugged me is that every other NPC hits on her. It came across as desperate, almost.
 
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vertexwindi said:
"Both male and female characters from non-hostile factions will comment on Veronica's attractiveness, particularly Powder Gangers, Great Khans, the Kings, and even female Fiends."
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Huh. I usually hear comments about ED-E. And they don't make these comments about Cass?
 
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vertexwindi said:
"Both male and female characters from non-hostile factions will comment on Veronica's attractiveness, particularly Powder Gangers, Great Khans, the Kings, and even female Fiends."
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It's true.

The Kings, Great Khans and Powder Gangers, they all make some degree of sense, but it got ridiculous when FEMALE Fiends were asking "Does she put out?"

Then again, they sounded high off their asses when asking, but it still came off as silly.
 
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