Fallout series

[Lone Star]

The Norwegians in 4 could've been a proper faction with unique characters, gear and quests but nooooo, they were just reskinned raiders in just another shooting gallery. That game has so much wasted potential in it because Bethesda is lazy.

I was so disappointed to come across that robot racing track just for the generic raider fucks there to open fire the second they laid eyes on me. God forbid such an interesting location get turned into some sort of minigame or something.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I was so disappointed to come across that robot racing track just for the generic raider fucks there to open fire the second they laid eyes on me. God forbid such an interesting location get turned into some sort of minigame or something.

Given what happened with the Combat Zone, maybe it was meant to be a minigame/attraction but got cut late in development?

 

[Agares]

Given what happened with the Combat Zone, maybe it was meant to be a minigame/attraction but got cut late in development?

Really makes you wonder what they were working on. How long was 4's development cycle again? Like 4 years?

Surely they could've done more in that timeframe.

 

[Lone Star]

Given what happened with the Combat Zone, maybe it was meant to be a minigame/attraction but got cut late in development?

Both those things should've been relatively easy to add in, though. I wasn't expecting a ten quest series or anything, just a nice little minigame. Could just be bets on fights/races that just require Luck to win. I would've been satisfied with that much over what we got.

 

[Übertroon]

They really dropped the ball when it came to quests in Fallout 4.
Compared to Fallout 3, New Vegas, or Skyrim and Oblivion it feels like the game with the least to do on the map. So many map marker location, but nothing done with them.
A lot of the quests are also just kill or fetch quests.
The DLC again was mostly just areas to shoot more people.
They had super mutant in the game, but there's no quests for them.

I've seen people blame the writers, but in previous Bethesda games a lot of the quests were just written and done by the programmers. I think every dev making the game dropped the ball when it comes to Fallout 4.
The gameplay was solid, but there wasn't any actual substance to enjoy it in.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Really makes you wonder what they were working on. How long was 4's development cycle again? Like 4 years?

Fallout 4 was started proper in 2009 but a handful of assets were made in 2008 (namely the T-60 power armor), and it was Bethesda's main project after the Release of Skyrim.
So it had 4 years as Bethesda's main project and a total of 7 or so years as a Project at all.

Both those things should've been relatively easy to add in, though. I wasn't expecting a ten quest series or anything, just a nice little minigame. Could just be bets on fights/races that just require Luck to win. I would've been satisfied with that much over what we got.

Fallout 4 is very weird because when you hear people talk about it they act like it had some horrifically rushed dev cycle, like it was crunch from start to finish. You have content like the Combat Zone that was almost done but was cut at the last minute for no real reason it seems, All the shit that pertains to the ocean, The nonsensical story that exists for some Factions that seems unfinished. There isn't a single part of Fallout 4 that seems like it was properly finished, managing to come off as more unfinished that New Vegas which only had 18 months to be finished.

I've seen people blame the writers

Schizo Theory but maybe Fallout 4 was the first Bethesda game to have the writers write the story first and then build the quests around a story outline?

 

[Agares]

Fallout 4 was started proper in 2009 but a handful of assets were made in 2008 (namely the T-60 power armor), and it was Bethesda's main project after the Release of Skyrim.
So it had 4 years as Bethesda's main project and a total of 7 or so years as a Project at all.

Really makes you wonder what got cut and why during such a long development time. It feels like they redid the game halfway through for some reason.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/81859

Someone made a backport support for that new BA2 format that Bethesda did.

I was so disappointed to come across that robot racing track just for the generic raider fucks there to open fire the second they laid eyes on me. God forbid such an interesting location get turned into some sort of minigame or something.

Not many people talk about how much of a missed opportunity it was, but that's par for the course with Fallout 4. Look at the cut content for the Combat Zone, or even the lack of content such as Salem, the Minutemen and Quincy, the Gunners, the entire fucking game. One giant missed opportunity because Bethesda have been hacks long since Fo4.

Really makes you wonder what got cut and why during such a long development time. It feels like they redid the game halfway through for some reason.

Just like Cyberpunk 2077. I'll stick to 2020 with homebrew thanks. Not Red though.

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I have finished Dead Money. Pretty damn good DLC in my opinion, I'll never understand why is so hated for its difficulty. I can agree that it's very frustrating at some parts, (the metal stairs during the finale and the unbreakable radios were particularly awful) but I think that the history of the DLC balances it to be a very great experience. There was some talk here about Lovecraftian elements in Fallout by Bethesda, I think Obsidian made a pretty good job doing it's take about that type of lore to perfection, a ghost casino in the middle of nowhere being surrounded by a mysterious and dangerous cloud? That's amazing, and it tells you enough to left you to your own interpretation.

I managed to get all companions to survive to get the perfect ending, although it left me with a little of bad taste in my mouth considering I left Dean Domino live. What are your opinions on him? He's a nasty bastard for the things he has done to Vera and being a petty asshole towards Sinclair. Did you let him live in your playthrough or not?

Now, before finishing this run... Only one more road remains...

Edit: Also, I grabbed all the gold and trapped Elijah in the vault, go to hell you old bastard.

Hell yeah man, glad you enjoyed it. It's all downhill from here! The Lovecraftian elements were a mistake in my opinion, there's so much horror in the wasteland that adding Eldritch beasts that aren't just mutant wildlife is just silly. Dead Money explains it well, keeping it within the realm of Science Fiction but not going to such lengths as "It's a spooky magic cloud of doom OOOOooooo, be afraaaaaid."

Spoiler: Cloud Spoiler

Won't say much, but it's not Eldritch. It's source is shown in the other DLC but I'll let you find that out.

The fact that you saved everyone first try is impressive, at least for that faggot Dean. You basically have to suck him off to get him to not try and kill you, they all try and kill you if you don't do specific actions but it's not really too hard, just Dean is annoying. I think it's fitting that he dies in that place. He's such a piece of shit but definitely an interesting character. He's unapologetically spiteful and envious, he stated himself that he wanted Sinclair to suffer just because he was optimistic, just to show him that "Begin again" means nothing to him. Absolute piece of shit. Even as an evil character, I just kill him in the end because of how much of a faggot he is, put him out of his misery. Dead money is a bit of a hit or miss with people. Some people like it like you and me, others hate it because they hate Chris Avellone's writing for various reasons. Also, only cowards don't yoink the gold, and I also would recommend the "Post game" mod and the "Elijah post game" addon that was cut content, "too dark" said the executives, ignoring everything else dark in the game. Even the fucked ending for Old World Blues was cut.

 

[Papa stink]

I can not describe how much I hate the idea of Vault-Tec dropping the bombs. It lessens the responsibility put on the world governments because instead of political conflict, escalation, and desperation being the cause for starting the nuclear war, it's now evil capitalists blowing up everything for money.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I can not describe how much I hate the idea of Vault-Tec dropping the bombs. It lessens the responsibility put on the world governments because instead of political conflict, escalation, and desperation being the cause for starting the nuclear war, it's now evil capitalists blowing up everything for money.

The cope is that they didn't say Vault Tec 100% dropped the bombs, its still somewhat up in the air of if they did or didn't. I feel like a lot of the stuff in the show was left purposely vague so they could then "clarify" (soft retcon) what is said in the show depending on fan reaction. Its like how the NCR seems to just not exist in the show but then after it came out they said "no, no, the NCR still exists, just......elsewhere." when people started complaining about the stupid plot.

 

[Ginebra]

I have finished Dead Money. Pretty damn good DLC in my opinion

It's also my favorite dlc. I don't mind the difficulty spike honestly, that's even kind of refreshing.

What always bothered me is the fact that there's not more racism in the fallout new Vegas and fallout games if people think that's an extreme anti communist United States would tolerate Martin Luther King junior who is a known communist subversive for five seconds they got another thing coming the vault dwellers to just all be racially segregated you can have your anti communist extreme caricature cake and eat it too.
At least fallout one and two had somewhat coherent political undertones fallout 2 making fun of America eugenicist that was in place until the 1970s

I don't find the lack of racism to be too weird myself. Given the more liberal sensibilities of the writers, I suspect that the theory of racism subscribed to in the Fallout series being that prejudice is a function of systematic inequality, and in a wasteland without the kind of structure and background that the old world has, customs like racism just lack the abstract justifications that made it make sense 'back then' versus 'now' in the post-apocalypse.

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[Gravityqueen4life]

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I have finished Dead Money. Pretty damn good DLC in my opinion, I'll never understand why is so hated for its difficulty. I can agree that it's very frustrating at some parts, (the metal stairs during the finale and the unbreakable radios were particularly awful) but I think that the history of the DLC balances it to be a very great experience. There was some talk here about Lovecraftian elements in Fallout by Bethesda, I think Obsidian made a pretty good job doing it's take about that type of lore to perfection, a ghost casino in the middle of nowhere being surrounded by a mysterious and dangerous cloud? That's amazing, and it tells you enough to left you to your own interpretation.

I managed to get all companions to survive to get the perfect ending, although it left me with a little of bad taste in my mouth considering I left Dean Domino live. What are your opinions on him? He's a nasty bastard for the things he has done to Vera and being a petty asshole towards Sinclair. Did you let him live in your playthrough or not?

Now, before finishing this run... Only one more road remains...

Edit: Also, I grabbed all the gold and trapped Elijah in the vault, go to hell you old bastard.

so you got all the gold huh?

 

[Spud]

so you got all the gold huh?

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>Not using the corpse of your enemy for even more storage
NGMI.

 

[Snekposter]

Oh man, I actually completely forgot that this happened. Eurofags really got the shit end of the stick in the Fallout universe huh?

>"Qui êtes-vous? A moins que vous n'ayez du vin, je m'en moque."
<"[Sneering Imperialist] What a disgusting language, and you reek of booze. Time to shut you up forever you savage ape. (Attack)"
*blasts with riot shotgun

[Sneering Imperialist] "Go ahead and put a bullet in General Frog-Eater over here."

I don't find the lack of racism to be too weird myself. Given the more liberal sensibilities of the writers, I suspect that the theory of racism subscribed to in the Fallout series being that prejudice is a function of systematic inequality, and in a wasteland without the kind of structure and background that the old world has, customs like racism just lack the abstract justifications that made it make sense 'back then' versus 'now' in the post-apocalypse.

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Just look at Tenpenny. He doesn't hate ghouls simply because they're ghouls. He hates ghouls because they're poorfags who shed everywhere, like dogs but worse. Be like him and hate people based on their socioeconomic strata relative to yours, and shoot at random wastelanders from your balcony just because you're rich and they're not.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

so you got all the gold huh?

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Literally my position right now. I saved the gold in Big Mountain though, to save time you know.

 

[Papa stink]

I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.

 

[Snekposter]

I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.

First time?

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

I just realized something about this show. Think about it. They nuke the NCR, retcon shit tons of things, turn the West Brotherhood into a copy of the East Brotherhood, and the fact this was advertised as the "series made by Todd Howard" This show was made to erase everything that Interplay/Black Isles/Obsidian built so they can claim it as their own. All the longtime fans or fans of NV and classic Fallout will leave and a new wave of fans will come. Sure, some of them might pick up 1 and 2 but most will flock to 76 and 4 and the farthest they'll go back is 3 or NV. They want to do what Disney had done with Star Wars, get rid of the long-time fans who loved the originals and were invested in the lore and replace them with bugmen who'll clap at the sight of power armor or blue and yellow jumpsuits.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

I finished Lonesome Road. While I prefer DLCs like Honest Hearts and Old World Blues a lot more, Lonesome Road is a masterpiece, the ambient is fucking fantastic. Exploring the Divide by yourself with ED-E in one of the most lonely -nopunintended- places in the game is certainly a tremendous experience.

I know people make fun of him because "The Bear and the Bull", but I loved Ulysses in my run, he's certainly one of the best antagonists in the game and probably one of the most fleshed-out characters made in Fallout, and considering that they build up three DLCs to the encounter with the two Couriers certainly puts a lot of weight to it, the final confrontation to him feels like a final boss without even being a final boss in the grand scheme of New Vegas. I mean, LOOK, the final scenery with the Old World US flag right in front of him when the world is going to end. Is a fantastic final boss scenario.



In my run I let him live, because I feel that he deserves it, even if he hates you and want you dead because of what happened in The Divide, when you make him understand the flag you're fighting on, it certainly gets better and decides to support you. Also, since I'm doing a run supporting Mr. House, I decided to stop the nukes from going off, I know the cool armor you get from nuking both of them, but since I'm sticking to roleplay (more on this in a sec.) I decided this time to not get them.

I even installed a mod and made him a companion, like it was originally intended. And he's certainly awesome as such. And he will be there with me when the Second Battle of Hoover Dam starts, it seems just appropiate that the guy that was mentioned during the three DLCs follows you in the final battle, you know?



And the final ending slide of the DLC ... It's one of the best I've ever seen from this franchise. I can see why so many people, me included, see this as the true ending to the franchise.

It's like the phrase was always incomplete the entire time when you heard it from the original games, and Ulysses ends it to give the true meaning of the message in his final line. It's so beautifully written that it hit me hard the first time I've read it. It gives the sense of finality that feels rewarding and pretty well deserved.

I love this DLC in its entirety. The only thing that I disliked about it is that they decided to put the roleplay aspect on the game away in this one by giving the Courier way too many backstory, but I think it makes a little bit of sense because your character starts as a courier and you can decide on yourself when did he give that package that destroyed Hopeville.

 

[WonderWino]

The thing about Europe is that it also went through a war in the 2060s prior to the great war, so the place was already fucked up before the Nukes dropped. All I want to know is where are my roving gangs of French Raiders who worship Wine like a god?

I'm more interested in finding out if there is a french version of the white glove society that captures people in the night like super mutants, drags them into french versions of vaults and stuffs them like pigs for months to prepare their livers for a cannibal foie gras feast. Perhaps recruiting some of them by dipping them master style into a vat of radioactive wine

Both of them lead to power armour and both are homosexual. What did obsidian mean by this?

Power armor is for power bottoms?

Conquer me caesar, conquer me good, degenerates like me belong on your cross. Power fist me like one of your praetorian guards - arcade