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I watched the stupid fallout TV show again because a friend wanted to watch it and I realized that not only is the general aesthetic and tone extremely off but it doesn't even follow the Fallout story formula.

Most notably it lacks a Chosen One archeotype. In the games your PC starts out as a random wastlander and becomes a folk hero or pseudo mythological figure to the other people in the wasteland via their deeds and interactions with other factions.

Lucy sort of seems like she's going this direction but not only does she never do anything notable or accomplish anything but she also doesn't have a mcguffin to lead her forward to a greater purpose ie, Project Purity/G.E.C.K or the Platinum Chip.

Hell the biggest story reveals revolve around the vault experiments and this all happens in a subplot in which neither Lucy or Maximus are ever present.

God it sucks even more the second time around.
>He hate watched it
>Again

Stop being part of the problem if you don't like it, then. The companies don't care if you're watching it with your soy mouth agape or seething every moment you do, just that you watch and consoom the product.
>But my frie-
You should have told your friend to shut up and watch something better, or if he wanted to watch something Fallout related there is always Nuka Break
Hell, if he's a newcomer to the series show him one of the games, maybe one of the classic ones if all he knows is the console Bugthesda slop. You would be surprised how receptive newcomers are to games they never heard of it you just show them how to play.

The best thing you can do is to completely bury and ignore this piece of shit. Worked for BOS aka POS, so much so that even Todd seemingly forgot about it(Tactics is in a canon limbo but it was mentioned a few times, most notably with the BOS blimps in 4, where as nobody really remembers FO:BOS). Let the cattle have their slop, altho it's already mostly forgotten and will stay that way until the shilling for season 2 begins.
 
Speaking of the TV show, I know it's dead and buried by this point(until season 2 drops and then the shilling/fake hype will begin again), but I did find this nice video that I must have missed when this was going on:
MATN is a Bugthesda baby so I didn't think I would agree with him, but I guess he's a strange case since he has limited experience with classic CRPGs and his favorite game of all time is New Vegas.
Not much more to add than this, he's pretty much spot on with what he's saying there, so this is a good video to recommend to people who want to get into Fallout.
If I had to give my own input, it would be this:

Fallout 1 is definitely the best place to start, period. The game isn't all that hard and it's very short, plus it has the best tutorial in the series. You will know all of it's mechanics well by the end of the first dungeon(Vault 15), even if you never played a top town isometric CRPG before. The game is short too, so you can easily start with a new build and try it out here before you play other games.
Once you know the game well enough, you can download Fallout Fixt or Et Tu and enable the invasion timers. Those are for hardcore players only, after 90 days LA Boneyard falls and after that, the other cities continue until the eventual game over when they reach Vault 13. For reference, 90 days in you still have 60 days to find the Water Chip, and you can only get the best gear(Turbo Plasma Rifle and Hardened Power Armor) there, not to mention the best shop in the game, before those 90 days roll in. This brings up questions you would never ask in any other Fallout game, such as "is it worth going to the nearby town and burning X amount of days when I can spend it healing myself here or continuing the main quest?" Very different experience, and one that I myself enjoy(it reminds me of Dead Rising's merciless timer, I wish it came back for later entries)
He also didn't talk about Tactics, that one is strictly for those who are experienced with Tactics based Squad Strategy games like Jagged Alliance 2, and those who have mastered the isometric combat in F1/F2 so definitely not a game for beginners, but one that rewards those who can handle it's quirks. The game is not just hard, but LONG, world record speedrun for the game is 2 hours and most content is NOT OPTIONAL, so it definitely gonna filter out a lot of people, newcomers especially. Definitely the meatiest isometric game, and the only one where you can control more than one character and use vehicles(minus Frontier mod for NV), so it is one of the more unique experiences Fallout has to offer.

I am interested, however: What was the first Fallout game for the users here, and is it even your favorite one? For me, it was Fallout 1(obviously), and I do still think it is the perfect, most pure Fallout title in the franchise. New Vegas might have more content and combat might be better in Tactics/F4 while Fallout 2 did almost everything better, but Fallout 1 is still the baseline for the franchise, and it's a perfect weekend game with how short it is. It's short runtime is a plus, while games like F2 or NV and especially Tactics are long commitments, F1 is a great game to just knockdown whenever you feel like it, and like I said with the timers, it is a very unique experience as well that rewards game knowledge and speed running tricks/meta gaming.
 
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I played Fo4 first i think but Fo1 is beyond a doubt the best in the series, too bad the mods for the classics are all made by russians with no translation
Nevada and Olympus 2077 are translated, I heavily recommend both. Hopefully Sonora will soon follow, it looks really good.
I would consider Nevada to be a proper Fallout game, with how high quality it is and how it understands the source material perfectly. Sadly, it is a bit too hard for newcomers, it requires way too much knowledge of the franchise, it's lore and how the oldschool games are played to be enjoyed. First timers will just get frustrated, but a very decent title to play if you've beaten F1 and F2 before.
 
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My first was Fallout New Vegas because I used to only use consoles back then. Later on I played Fallout 1 and 2. Honestly I still consider Fallout New Vegas as my personal favorite as I believe it has the most interesting main story and the best combat compared to 1 and 2. I still need to play tactics at some point I have a copy but I never bother to start it yet.
 
I am interested, however: What was the first Fallout game for the users here, and is it even your favorite one?
The first I played was Fallout 1. I bought it in a set with FO2, and they really stood out among the other RPGs I played back then.
New Vegas is my favorite, but I still like FO1, which is more than I can say for the rest of the franchise.
 
Fallout 1 was (in my opinion) the only Fallout game to balance its seriousness and goofiness. The RNG in it leads to players replaying it for different twists. Although the plot resembles an old Sci-Fi comic story, the side quests and writing make the player ignore that. The writers of the game understood the player's needs and wants. Fallout's later games represent the direction of the gaming industry: rushing the product and decreasing its quality. Our times have passed.
 
Playing a dumb low INT character is probably the most underrated build.
Y O U R E O N E O F T H E M S P E C I A L F O L K S A I N T Y O U ?

Just for fun, I decided to search for clips of Cliff Briscoe's actor in other things because, let's be honest, it doesn't matter if he's voicing an old shopkeeper, a wandering minstrel or a hardened legionary veteran, they all sound like Cliff Briscoe. And every line sounds like "darn it no one ever buys the t rexes.."

Anyway, I found this clip and it's so jarring hearing this voice actually, you know,acting.
 
I am interested, however: What was the first Fallout game for the users here, and is it even your favorite one?
I was a console fag back in the day so my first was Fallout 3, I liked it a lot back then, then played 4 and liked it bust mostly because I went full autismo with the settlement system, I am currently playing New Vegas for the first time, and I'm liking it a lot.
 
Why exactly are so many people saying Fallout 2 is the best in the series ? I can't see it tbh, third place maybe
I can generally respect anyone who says it, 1 or NV are for varying reasons. 2 does have some improved gameplay elements that can lead to some preferring it to 1 for example.
 
I am interested, however: What was the first Fallout game for the users here, and is it even your favorite one?

I knew a bit about the series but never tried any of the games growing up. Finally gave it a shot and played Fallout 3 after seeing YouTuber Xcalizorz play it in 2013. Consensus seems to be that New Vegas is the superior game, but despite its flaws my favorite is 4 because I've had far more fun playing it than any of the other entries.
 
Why exactly are so many people saying Fallout 2 is the best in the series ? I can't see it tbh, third place maybe
Well, when you compare it to Fallout 1 it is pretty much better in every way, with the exception of a more silly tone and writing(both of which were mandated by Interplay in order to make the game more appealing to the casual and mainstream audience. Some things never change!).

Fallout 2 improves on many features of Fallout 1 while keeping the base gameplay itself the same, it also adds a ton more content and overall makes for a better RPG, a much meatier one too. There is another aspect to it, however: It is a journey. All Fallout games are, but Fallout 2 does it the best: You start out in a crappy dungeon, you live in a crappy village, and then you wonder into a shitty backwards town, but compared to what you had before, tutorial town feels like a much needed breath of civilization. You get your first clue as to where to go next, you find out that your crappy village is indeed crappy and that your kind(tribals) aren't really looked upon with respect, you do your first quests, get your first gun and get your first companion. The game expands from there, and at a certain point, you have many, many towns to visit without the game pointing a stupid quest arrow telling you where to go. You eventually make it there on your own, by exploring and doing your own investigative work. On the way there you meet many more NPCs, do many more quests, get involved with the local politics, recruit more companions and of course, get better gear. It is a very addictive loop and it feels less like a grind and more like an actual proper adventure. I would go as far to say that Fallout 2 is the franchise's own Odyssey, no other game comes close to this scale. The game kinda peters out in the final act, Enclave aren't really that engaging as far as villains go, especially when compared to Unity, and the final dungeon is a bit lacking in options compared to the Cathedral(you can't even talk the final boss to death), but it's overall servicable. Plus, you can't really go wrong with hijacking a giant tanker and then blowing up an Enclave base with them non the wiser(or going in guns blazing if you're suicidal). Frank Horrigan, despite needing violence to take out, is also a pretty badass villain, I guess not every boss needs to be The Master and the game does go out on a high note, but it goes to show you just how strong Fallout 2 is when even it's weakest parts are merely mediocre.

Honestly, you just need to play it yourself. The original is very buggy and has lots of cut content, but we've come a long way, Restoration Patch is pretty much mandatory and makes the game even better. I haven't even talked about things you can do on the side that no other game lets you do, like getting married(then either getting divorced, enslaving your significant other or whoring them out for money and equipment), you can become an enforcer for a crime family of your choosing in New Reno, you can cure the Jet addiction(the New California variant is much stronger and pretty much 100% addictive compared to the diluted homebrewed variants in Vegas and East Coast), you can become a porn star, you can repair your own car and use it to travel faster on the map(with unique encounters in some places when you bring it there), you can become a scientologist and ruin an entire town for a few measly dollars, you can become a slaver and actually go on slaving runs against clueless tribals(you get a big head tattoo when you join, so every single NPC in the game knows who you are and some won't even talk to you anymore for the rest of the game), you can actually help out the NCR rangers before they become relevant in New Vegas, you can finish the job that Vault Dweller started and kill off the last remaining Khan, you can join a cult made by an intelligent talking mole rat that wants to rule the world(and it actually influences a few quests in quite a big way, this isn't a stupid one time joke), you can construct your very own robobrain called "Skynet"(and if you lack science, you can strap one of your own less wanted companions, including your spouse, on an operating table to extract their brain if you lack the required science skill. You can also give it a monkey brain and make it completely useless, or give it a cybernetic brain inversely and get the best sniper in the game, the game becomes a cakewalk once you give it a gauss rifle), and of course there is nothing stopping you from being an evil bastard that kills kids and screws over everyone, the game won't stop you even if it will make your life miserable. This is the kind of game you owe yourself to try out one of these days, the claims of it being one of the best CRPGs of all time are not overblown, and people treat it as one of, if not the best, Fallout game of all time for a reason. It's few shortfalls, like the abundance of pop culture references and bugs(many of which are fixed in the RP), can be easily overlooked when the rest of the experience is so good. Just be aware: The game is MERCILESS to the newcomers, there will be instances where you will just get killed by the game for shits and giggles and you have to take it or get gud at it. That's just how games were back then, nothing exclusive to Fallout 2, and you become a real badass by the end anyways. If you know the game well enough, you can even speedrun to the best power armor in the game and have a nice, easy playthru from there.
 
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Replayed Fallout 2, been more than a decade since I last beat it. Since I also replayed the original recently it corrected one big misconception I had with the classic games, in that Fallout 2 had way more le wacky xD stuff and Fallout 1 was super serious. Relative to the length of each game (F1 I beat in 21 hours, 2 in 50 hours) F1 has about as much humor in my experience but admittedly it has less le wacky xD humor and more subtle and dark humor. Still, the humor doesn't feel overpowering in either game, both have a really gritty and ruthless atmosphere but with some silly jokes being cracked here or there.
Over compensating NV kids like to overstate how 'grim and gritty' F1 is.
 
Over compensating NV kids like to overstate how 'grim and gritty' F1 is.
It does get pretty bad towards the end of the game, when you realize just how bad the mutant problem is(especially when you enable invasions and find entire towns slaughtered and mutants/cultists parading around, talking of purifying the weak with fire). LA boneyard is also pretty gritty, it's basically one giant clusterfuck of people trying to screw over or kill each other(and it would have been even worse if the devs had more time, since there was going to be a gang war subplot instead of the regulator/blades one)

I don't think any other Fallout game truly captures just how much things go to shit in the end game. Fallout 2 just drops the revelation that Enclave are going to gas the world...for reasons, New Vegas is just a warzone, you don't really get high stakes as much as you are making sure your side wins. Bethesda titles are cartoons, more or less, so you rarely take them seriously. I think Fallout Tactics comes close to capturing this feeling of hopelessness towards the end, I'm not gonna spoil it but the enemy might be worse than Enclave and Unity put together, and Brotherhood is JUST strong enough to stop it, and that's only after an entire game's worth of conquests.
 
Honestly, you just need to play it yourself.
I got 120 hours in Fo2 and like 40 in Fo1, my issue with 2 is the talking deathclaws and mainly that the enclave are too cartoonishly evil for no reason. For example the doctor in the oil rig that spent his life developing the lethal FEV strain just changes his mind after a tribal talks with him about Drawin's law and calls him a hypocrite.
Also the fact that Enclave wants to wipe all human life outside of their own is very absurd
 
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