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Conan said:
I miss when the internet got together for a while and rightfully ridiculed the BEAR BULL BEAR BULL OLD WORLD FLAG BEAR BULL from lonesome road.
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FNV has a lot of strong points, compelling antagonists however are not one of them.
For the base game we've got (Depending on your allegience):
- Mr. Ringading: Guy who shoots you in the head. You trek across the wastes and when meeting him again there isn't much to stop you from instantly shooting him in the head in turn. Attempts to have this character have a larger role in the story result in him instantly being captured by the Legion and disappearing no matter what else you do.
- Brain Tumor Retardman who informs you how smart he is while he gives you the advanced computer chip and free reign to go down into a military bunker storing who knows what unaccompanied by any of his men. For bonus points, this can be after the Courier has done literally everything in his power to fuck with the legion's plans.
- Generic Stupid Generalman who is summed up as 'incompetent warmonger' and nothing else.
- Hyped up Legion super soldier who is so ruthless that even the legion itself balks at him who can be defeated by pulling "lots of land = hard to hold" on the faction that quite literally has the largest and most stable area of control thanks to their ruthlessness.
- Ancient Diaperman: Apparently the smartest man alive. Didn't calculate the possibility that making a random unvetted mailman his right-hand man could possibly end with them betraying him and beating him to death with a 9 iron after his last right-hand man betrayed him.

A lot of the base game villains fail because they're written in a very video-gamey way. Where they will just randomly trust the player character implicitly for no reason because idk, he showed a lotta gumption.

Then for the DLC we've got
- BullBear Man: Chris Avellone's personal talking nigger that he can use to pick at parts of the setting that he doesn't really like very much. Nonsensically written to blame you for something completely out of your control that not only did you not have any control over, you didn't even fucking see. Not to mention that he's written in such a way that you literally can't refute his points while he dictates at you without your own dialogue options making you seem retarded. His very character design makes you think he's trying way too hard to be cool, but you're meant to take him seriously.
- Schizophrenic Oldman: Weirdly the closest thing that there is to a main villain across the DLCs, and not that a bad villain either, really. He's effective at what he does, but unfortunately, his motive is just "I'm crazy so I kill everyone". The slight plot hole of him ignoring the fact that the Courier most likely has Euclid's C-Finder should probably be ignored. At least he has proper presence, though.
- I don't know, some fucking tribal or something? I think his name was General Gobblydegook: Honest Hearts fucking sucks man, what do you want me to say? It's got two good parts people mention and the rest of it is completely forgettable.
- The Redditbots: The less said about them, the fucking better.
 
At least it's not rambling about a game series that came out almost- thanks, alyx entirely between when Fallout was isometric and when Fallout was an FPS.
R00T said:
Make the courier actually talk to people from Legion territory, figure out the bigger picture, present it with evidence, maybe reports of bandits focusing their attacks in the east, reports from legionaires about concerns regarding logistics.
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This would have required enough devtime that it's a fairly high chance that the Legion would have been cut as an option entirely. Would have been nice, but the game was a slapdash sprint to the finish with zero experience in the engine.
We're lucky it isn't Brotherhood of Steel 2, or worse.
R00T said:
This is something the courier has never seen
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The courier probably has seen the east, or at least enough of it, pre-game. But that's a complete crapshoot because of BullBearBearBull Man, among a thousand other things.
Symbol of the Chud said:
The Redditbots: The less said about them, the fucking better.
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Say more, but with funny nicknames. It'll be hilarious.
 
Prophetic Spirit said:
Why you guys are still talking about wokeism in HL2? Did you at least played the game to know context?

If the world is in basically apocalyptic-state with a big ass alien empire draining resources and using emp to prevent births, is a little obnoxious why the diverse of characters: because they are few.
I remember more white characters in the main cast: Gordon, Barney, Doc, that redhead bitch and Breen. Only specific ones are Eli (because is from a fucking sciencist model in OG HL) and Alyx (which is new).
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Look bro, brown woman bad, context doesn't matter. Nevermind how revolutionary the game was at the time and how not a single fuck was given about any "diversity" in it in 2004, the zoomies now just don't get what's so special about this game so they will make up any reason to bitch about it. Generation that knows absolutely nothing about good games will never learn to appreciate them, only complain about their impossible to meet purity standard so they always have an excuse as to why a "good" game is never made within their generation. It's called a "cope".
R00T said:
Do people really not remember how stupid this is? *This* is good writing but Fallout 3 Eden's writing is bad? Fallout 4's synths are bad?
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Yes, this is "good" writing, or at least not any worse than anything else in the game. It might not look special when you completed the game dozens of times, but it works just fine for what it is. Again, people are making up bullshit excuses to have any problem with New Vegas because it is le bad now or le woke now or whatever, probably people who were underage when it came out too. If you're playing the game so much that every single thing about it bothers you, it's time to take a break and play something else, we can do this nitpick bullshit with quite literally anything. Don't bother writing another wall of text, make a video essay and link it here.
Symbol of the Chud said:
FNV has a lot of strong points, compelling antagonists however are not one of them.
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Correct, and that's not a bad thing. I actually prefer this more grounded take on the franchise, people forget that the big climax is a battle over a dam, not a battle to save humanity. Fallout 4 kind of had that too(unless you interpret Institute as a threat to humanity) and that's not a bad thing either. Nobody said we have to repeat the same tired templates every single entry until the end of time, that's how you get something as stale as Pokemon and we already have enough checkmarks set by Bethesda(Dog companion, Super Mutants, Radscorpions, Power Armor on boxart ect.) that have to appear in every game as is.
 
This is probably a really normie question, but regarding The Master in Fallout 1. It's a major plot point that he doesn't realize that Super Mutants are sterile and can't have children. He's apparently hyper intelligent and spent the last couple years before the game began testing and perfecting the FEV for Super Mutant creation.

So basically my question is does the game explain somewhere how he never found out his army was sterile? Did he just assume they could have kids?
 
Since people are sperging about New Vegas I'll take the opportunity to do so too.
My headcanon for Lonesome Road is that BearBull guy is so blinded by rage and thirst for vengeance he doesn't even realize he's got the wrong guy, my first courier was a selfish theif with high sneak, speech and barter skills, mid guns and low everything else, and no way he would have "braved the storms of the divide" to keep the community alive. I did pick the dialogue options that sounded the most like trying to refute him, but the game seems intent on that being the canon backstory for the Courier and thats gay.
I agree on the Redditbots I am currently replaying Old World Blues and despite me trying to pick every dialogue that is "Cut to the chase" "Don't care just gonna go" etc. they just fucking keep blabbering because whoever wrote that interaction probably thinks he is the king of comedy.
Funny how Honest Hearts has Daniel call you a whiny bitch if you pick the "I helped you now you help me option" and goes hostile if you double down. Ended up basically skiping the DLC on my second playtrough because of this.
Anyway currently having a blast playing my first melee build 10 strength, 10 Endurance, 10 Luck but 1 Intelligence and 1 Charisma, love how some of the dialogue options change to show your character being borderline retarded, and the fact that you can lock yourself out of a ton of quests because of this.
 
Mary the Goldsmith said:
Since people are sperging about New Vegas I'll take the opportunity to do so too.
My headcanon for Lonesome Road is that BearBull guy is so blinded by rage and thirst for vengeance he doesn't even realize he's got the wrong guy, my first courier was a selfish theif with high sneak, speech and barter skills, mid guns and low everything else, and no way he would have "braved the storms of the divide" to keep the community alive. I did pick the dialogue options that sounded the most like trying to refute him, but the game seems intent on that being the canon backstory for the Courier and thats gay.
I agree on the Redditbots I am currently replaying Old World Blues and despite me trying to pick every dialogue that is "Cut to the chase" "Don't care just gonna go" etc. they just fucking keep blabbering because whoever wrote that interaction probably thinks he is the king of comedy.
Funny how Honest Hearts has Daniel call you a whiny bitch if you pick the "I helped you now you help me option" and goes hostile if you double down. Ended up basically skiping the DLC on my second playtrough because of this.
Anyway currently having a blast playing my first melee build 10 strength, 10 Endurance, 10 Luck but 1 Intelligence and 1 Charisma, love how some of the dialogue options change to show your character being borderline retarded, and the fact that you can lock yourself out of a ton of quests because of this.
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The Low Int Runs in FNV are disappointing to me in how they utterly pale compared to low int runs in Fallout 2 and Fallout 1.
In FNV, getting to say retarded shit in dialogue isn't super common.
In the classic games, if you have low int, you are a literal ug-brained caveman who disgusts basically everyone he meets.
Your only response to seeing the final boss of Fallout 1 is "Ugh-lee."

You can't even gamble in those games, you're far too stupid to understand how to use stuff like slot machines.
>{You see a strange golden metal box with three eyes and one arm. It is one of the prettiest things you have ever seen.}
>[Shake it's hand]
>{You grab its arm and shake it warmly. As you do, there is a *bzzzzzzz,* and the box speaks! "Please…insert…money."}
>[Aighhhhh! Robot! Robot! Runnnnn]

It's even funnier because at the start of the game, the plot needs to be relayed to you in the most simple of terms by the Overseer/Elder.
 
“Noooo stalker child you must make a 4 hour video essay regarding why the glint on Lanius’s armor ruins the finale of New Vegas before I shall deign to notice you.”

You saying the writing is “good, no worse than the rest of the game” is such a disservice to the actual good writing of the game I can’t even begin to describe the issues. And “wall of text” it was less than two hundred words longer than the initial comment I was replying to and addressed two points.

You look like a massive retard. Like incapable of observing the contextual clues the Lanius dialogue lacks that would make it an actual effective bit of writing. You’re downplaying how severe a fumble it is by saying “it’s not some grand finale, and is actually really grounded.” It’s excessively extravagant. Every faction in the region has a finger in the pie. The status of the dam determines countless things beyond whose flag sits above the Colorado. Will Vegas maintain independence? Can House be given the opportunity to reach for the stars? Would an independent state really be that bad? This includes the additional fact you could sabotage the dam. Sure the Legion may be routed, but is there even any opportunity for expansion if the NCR cannot secure electricity for the region? It’s an excessively big moment and if you can’t recognize that you might be thick.
 
Symbol of the Chud said:
In FNV, getting to say retarded shit in dialogue isn't super common.
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I did notice that, it is somewhat jarring that my character will go from "Me like shiny thing" to fully articulated sentences in the same conversation, but I'll blame the game's rushed nature on that. Or I can just headcanon that my character rather than full mouth drooling retard is instead Chris-Chan levels of "intelligence"
 
Anachronistic2 said:
So basically my question is does the game explain somewhere how he never found out his army was sterile? Did he just assume they could have kids?
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If you do the same spiel with Lieutenant about reproductive issues he says that there are "certain problems" that are being addressed, Master is probably less involved with FEV research and his subordinates purposefully do not want to bring bad news to him especially since they think that they can simply fix it.
 
Mary the Goldsmith said:
I did notice that, it is somewhat jarring that my character will go from "Me like shiny thing" to fully articulated sentences in the same conversation, but I'll blame the game's rushed nature on that. Or I can just headcanon that my character rather than full mouth drooling retard is instead Chris-Chan levels of "intelligence"
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You sell plants, too?
 
To try to steer the autismo FNV party towards something we can at least agree mutually that is objectively awful, I was replying a certaing Fallout game (wont say which because even that may cause controversity) and I began to wonder to myself.

Why the fuck are there radroaches on the West coast now? Because we see them in the TV show and they never appeared.

If anything, the West Coast seems to have just spawned Radroaches among other when they never existed with no lore explanation as to why (odd, they all seem to be Bethesda's creations, hmmm...). And given how much BOS is of a presence in there now (magically since they were on their last legs against the NCR), you'd think Lost Hills would have at least been mentioned but no, as far as we know, it didnt survive the Bethesda-fication of the whole California area, which resulted in many communies ceasing to exist and/or change of location of location completely.

And the problem with arguing over this sort of thing with tourists is that it seems like you are speaking a different language as they will openly try to justify these changes with absurd assumptions and headcanons that ultimately are held together with the "wait for S2, they will explain it!". When anyone that has basic pattern recognition knows it never will, especially now they are moving to New Vegas.

And the leaked photos we got dont really give an inspiring picture as the city will either be destroyed (if its not already) or be in such a deplorable state that it will leave little ambiguity that Bethesda is truly doing this shit on purpose out of spite towards Interplay/Obsidian.

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While we are on the topic, some have already brought up but you can honest to God forget about Caesar's Legion making any sort of appearance. I dont think they will go as far as to not have the events of NV being mentioned and referenced whatsoever but at the same time, I do not believe that the C.L will get anything beyond being mentioned and if they do, it will be just to mock them with the type of corporate spite you can only express with millions of Amazon jew bucks. "Yeah, werent those guys stupid?", either that or we will just get a raider group that will be their made of CL remnants just so we can have them and brutally kill them while at it.

You will never get Caesar's Legion ever again on Fallout, not even one similar to them that has a depth beyond that of simple "we are just fucking crazy, raid raid raid" like nearly all evil Bethesda factions have. Not only it goes against Bethesda's writing style but the modern gaming landscape would never entertain even having a complex "evil" faction you can join and that gives detailed explanations on why they are the way they are because people cant tell fiction apart from reality anymore and thus this would be supporting "evil people" IRL.


Im tired, bros, I just want to have fun again... (:_(


Symbol of the Chud said:
"[Science]You can't be president. You're an abortion of science. You need to die..."
"Oh, OK."
or
"[Speech]This has to end, Eden. You need to destroy yourself and the base."
"Oh, OK"

Those are what your character actually tells Eden. Both work.
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Well, telling an AI to kill itself is quite based, even if only retroactively.
Big Brown Schlub said:
What the fuck happened to this thread?
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What usually happens when Fallout fans gather in one place.

Nuclear war over dumb shit, even dumb shit they AGREE with.

Its "Fallout X is better but Fallout Y is good but actually I hate it because this and that."

Cant we all just hold hands and tell the Fallout 76 and the TV show to go to Hell?
Anachronistic2 said:
So basically my question is does the game explain somewhere how he never found out his army was sterile? Did he just assume they could have kids?
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I always attributed it to something akin to Hitler and his generals downplaying the severity of situations to avoid them losing their positions (and/or their lives). The Master is usually focused on other more direct things and even when he does focus on the FEV, I dont think he was focusing on the reproduction aspect because he possibly arrogantly thinks that of course his green bois can do the deed. So he probably left that part of the research to third parties.

These third parties learned about it and Lou, the lieutenant of the Green Bois club army, decided it would be best to solve this issue by themselves instead of possibly risking their leader flipping out on them that they told him that ONLY now (with the invasions having officially started while such gargantuan issue existing) and get punished.

If you bring up the reproductive issue with Lou, he will be dismissive and say not only the master doesnt know, he doesnt NEED to know and that the issue will be solved "soon" ™️ but you can tell he is trying to hide his concern.
 
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