Fallout series

[R00T]

“Noooo stalker child you must make a 4 hour video essay regarding why the glint on Lanius’s armor ruins the finale of New Vegas before I shall deign to notice you.”

You saying the writing is “good, no worse than the rest of the game” is such a disservice to the actual good writing of the game I can’t even begin to describe the issues. And “wall of text” it was less than two hundred words longer than the initial comment I was replying to and addressed two points.

You look like a massive retard. Like incapable of observing the contextual clues the Lanius dialogue lacks that would make it an actual effective bit of writing. You’re downplaying how severe a fumble it is by saying “it’s not some grand finale, and is actually really grounded.” It’s excessively extravagant. Every faction in the region has a finger in the pie. The status of the dam determines countless things beyond whose flag sits above the Colorado. Will Vegas maintain independence? Can House be given the opportunity to reach for the stars? Would an independent state really be that bad? This includes the additional fact you could sabotage the dam. Sure the Legion may be routed, but is there even any opportunity for expansion if the NCR cannot secure electricity for the region? It’s an excessively big moment and if you can’t recognize that you might be thick.

 

[BradeRunna]

This is just a reminder that Fallout 1 and 2 are the only really good Fallout games.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

In FNV, getting to say retarded shit in dialogue isn't super common.

I did notice that, it is somewhat jarring that my character will go from "Me like shiny thing" to fully articulated sentences in the same conversation, but I'll blame the game's rushed nature on that. Or I can just headcanon that my character rather than full mouth drooling retard is instead Chris-Chan levels of "intelligence"

 

[Spider Princess Fan]

So basically my question is does the game explain somewhere how he never found out his army was sterile? Did he just assume they could have kids?

If you do the same spiel with Lieutenant about reproductive issues he says that there are "certain problems" that are being addressed, Master is probably less involved with FEV research and his subordinates purposefully do not want to bring bad news to him especially since they think that they can simply fix it.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I did notice that, it is somewhat jarring that my character will go from "Me like shiny thing" to fully articulated sentences in the same conversation, but I'll blame the game's rushed nature on that. Or I can just headcanon that my character rather than full mouth drooling retard is instead Chris-Chan levels of "intelligence"

You sell plants, too?

 

[The handsome tard]

To try to steer the autismo FNV party towards something we can at least agree mutually that is objectively awful, I was replying a certaing Fallout game (wont say which because even that may cause controversity) and I began to wonder to myself.

Why the fuck are there radroaches on the West coast now? Because we see them in the TV show and they never appeared.

If anything, the West Coast seems to have just spawned Radroaches among other when they never existed with no lore explanation as to why (odd, they all seem to be Bethesda's creations, hmmm...). And given how much BOS is of a presence in there now (magically since they were on their last legs against the NCR), you'd think Lost Hills would have at least been mentioned but no, as far as we know, it didnt survive the Bethesda-fication of the whole California area, which resulted in many communies ceasing to exist and/or change of location of location completely.

And the problem with arguing over this sort of thing with tourists is that it seems like you are speaking a different language as they will openly try to justify these changes with absurd assumptions and headcanons that ultimately are held together with the "wait for S2, they will explain it!". When anyone that has basic pattern recognition knows it never will, especially now they are moving to New Vegas.

And the leaked photos we got dont really give an inspiring picture as the city will either be destroyed (if its not already) or be in such a deplorable state that it will leave little ambiguity that Bethesda is truly doing this shit on purpose out of spite towards Interplay/Obsidian.

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While we are on the topic, some have already brought up but you can honest to God forget about Caesar's Legion making any sort of appearance. I dont think they will go as far as to not have the events of NV being mentioned and referenced whatsoever but at the same time, I do not believe that the C.L will get anything beyond being mentioned and if they do, it will be just to mock them with the type of corporate spite you can only express with millions of Amazon jew bucks. "Yeah, werent those guys stupid?", either that or we will just get a raider group that will be their made of CL remnants just so we can have them and brutally kill them while at it.

You will never get Caesar's Legion ever again on Fallout, not even one similar to them that has a depth beyond that of simple "we are just fucking crazy, raid raid raid" like nearly all evil Bethesda factions have. Not only it goes against Bethesda's writing style but the modern gaming landscape would never entertain even having a complex "evil" faction you can join and that gives detailed explanations on why they are the way they are because people cant tell fiction apart from reality anymore and thus this would be supporting "evil people" IRL.


Im tired, bros, I just want to have fun again...

"[Science]You can't be president. You're an abortion of science. You need to die..."
"Oh, OK."
or
"[Speech]This has to end, Eden. You need to destroy yourself and the base."
"Oh, OK"

Those are what your character actually tells Eden. Both work.

Well, telling an AI to kill itself is quite based, even if only retroactively.

What the fuck happened to this thread?

What usually happens when Fallout fans gather in one place.

Nuclear war over dumb shit, even dumb shit they AGREE with.

Its "Fallout X is better but Fallout Y is good but actually I hate it because this and that."

Cant we all just hold hands and tell the Fallout 76 and the TV show to go to Hell?

So basically my question is does the game explain somewhere how he never found out his army was sterile? Did he just assume they could have kids?

I always attributed it to something akin to Hitler and his generals downplaying the severity of situations to avoid them losing their positions (and/or their lives). The Master is usually focused on other more direct things and even when he does focus on the FEV, I dont think he was focusing on the reproduction aspect because he possibly arrogantly thinks that of course his green bois can do the deed. So he probably left that part of the research to third parties.

These third parties learned about it and Lou, the lieutenant of the Green Bois club army, decided it would be best to solve this issue by themselves instead of possibly risking their leader flipping out on them that they told him that ONLY now (with the invasions having officially started while such gargantuan issue existing) and get punished.

If you bring up the reproductive issue with Lou, he will be dismissive and say not only the master doesnt know, he doesnt NEED to know and that the issue will be solved "soon" but you can tell he is trying to hide his concern.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I do not believe that the C.L will get anything beyond being mentioned

There were leaked set photos showing off legion (or at least legion-esque) soldiers, So they'll probably show up in some manner in season 2.

There is also the fan theory that, while 100% not true, was actually kinda funny in that the Brotherhood of Steel in the Fallout TV show had actually merged with the Legion.

 

[Boxless]

Not only it goes against Bethesda's writing style but the modern gaming landscape would never entertain even having a complex "evil" faction you can join and that gives detailed explanations on why they are the way they are because people cant tell fiction apart from reality anymore and thus this would be supporting "evil people" IRL.

What's really funny is that, despite Strong (mutie companion from Fo4, for those that didn't bother playing that one in-depth) being of the 'evil Orc but scifi' bent- he's also smart enough to set it aside and learn from humanity because he knows his strain's way of doing things isn't going to cut it in the end.
He's still a fucking retard due to the companion system in that game, but he's got the spirit. Thank god you can't romance the fucker, unlike ~80% of the other companions in that game.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

Do people really not remember how stupid this is? *This* is good writing but Fallout 3 Eden's writing is bad? Fallout 4's synths are bad?

The whole last chapter of NV always disappoints me, as much as I love the game in general. It feels rushed, you just go to Hoover Dam, have the same fast paced fight and regardless of which path you choose, it all feels the same to the point where I don't even know why my choice even matters. To get a different slideshow and narration? While I'm at it, I actually don't like that there's no endgame content. It worked better with first games to me, maybe because they were overall different games altogether. NV ending like it does screams "rushed" one more time.

(That said, endgame content isn't that great in Fo3/Fo4 either, so that alone wouldn't have fixed much.)

The hilarious thing is that Fallout 4 got the settlement treatment because one of the more popular mods in Fallout: New Vegas in terms of new mechanics in gameplay was Wasteland Defense, where you build a settlement and then defend it from attacking raiders. You can look up videos of it and see comments of people saying "settlement building should just be in the game." Include people loving hearthfire in Skyrim and you have suits at bethesda saying "this is what the people want."

Not gonna lie, I actually somewhat enjoyed Fo4 settlement building, at least its idea. It's definitely not a "fallout game" anymore, and probably my own personal taste in video games, but I like that it adds aspect of actually "living in the wasteland" beyond just shooting, looting and fetching. On the other hand, it's way too easy to collect resources, building and management are extremely low tier if you're actually familiar with building simulators and tycoons, the wasteland survival simulation is also pretty weak apart from avoiding to get shot on survival mode.
In the end what essentially happened was a game that tried to be a "Fallout settlement building survival simulator" failed at both being a good Fallout game and a good settlement builder/wasteland survival simulator. Not mentioning Preston, that's a given already lmao.

What's really funny is that, despite Strong (mutie companion from Fo4, for those that didn't bother playing that one in-depth) being of the 'evil Orc but scifi' bent- he's also smart enough to set it aside and learn from humanity because he knows his strain's way of doing things isn't going to cut it in the end.

I'm still not over Bethesda turning supermutants into retards. It's so lazy.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Not mentioning Preston, that's a given already lmao

There's another settlement that need our help
I'll mark it on your map.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

There's another settlement that need our help
I'll mark it on your map.

Once I passed through the settlement to drop off random trash I collected and while I was at the crafting table, minding my business, he threw THREE quests on me.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Once I passed through the settlement to drop off random trash I collected and while I was at the crafting table, minding my business, he threw THREE quests on me.

He does that on one thing in mind: abusing the radiant system.
I think Preston breaks the 4th wall everytime with that.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

I'm still not over Bethesda turning supermutants into retards. It's so lazy.

I can come to terms with it by just imagining that just about everyone on the East Coast is a horribly irradiated bundle of gene soup that instantly turns them into the retard mutants. (Ignoring the fact that the effects of FEV are supposed to be random unless you're exposing people to a specific strain. It turned Harold into a tree and the Master into a blob, it doesn't just turn everyone into giant orcs, Todd!)
The guy from the institute who got turned into a mutie retained his faculties, as did Fawkes.
Basically, the mutants in Bethesdas games are retards because everyone in Bethesdas games are retarded mutant freaks already.

 

[The handsome tard]

There were leaked set photos showing off legion (or at least legion-esque) soldiers, So they'll probably show up in some manner in season 2.
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There is also the fan theory that, while 100% not true, was actually kinda funny in that the Brotherhood of Steel in the Fallout TV show had actually merged with the Legion.

Nothing is pointing out that the Legion ending is canon so it could be possible this is a raider/remnants group.

Then again, I dont think NV was ever meant to have a canon ending and even if one ending turns out to be canon, it doesnt seem like it changed that much in the long run didnt it? The whole area looks the same at best and actually worse in some places.

But then again-er, the amazon series made it clear that the lore is bendable as a wet noodle with absolute total Bethesda blessing so absolutely anything could happen.

Assuming the Legion does play some sort of role, remember, this is Bethesda territory, so dont expect much depth out of these guys nor consistency to how they used to be.

I wont discard the chance this is a flashback or maybe some recording of the events of NV either.

Edit: When I think about all the circunstances and leaked photos, the Mojave's current state could only be justified if the Anarchy without a securitron army is canon. And I doubt the courier will make an appearance (if anything, we better hope they dont) and at best there will be the implication they left for the Big MT

 

[Boxless]

have the same fast paced fight and regardless of which path you choose

Funnily, the least fleshed-out questchain has the most change in the final fight. It makes Legion runs not totally mind-numbing to do, at least.

I'm still not over Bethesda turning supermutants into retards. It's so lazy.

I can come to terms with it by just imagining that just about everyone on the East Coast is a horribly irradiated bundle of gene soup that instantly turns them into the retard mutants. (Ignoring the fact that the effects of FEV are supposed to be random unless you're exposing people to a specific strain. It turned Harold into a tree and the Master into a blob, it doesn't just turn everyone into giant orcs, Todd!)

It's worth noting that the West Coast (DC) strain is somewhat explicitly fucked to begin with, with Fawkes and Leo being complete outliers of it. It doesn't help that outside of 101 malingerers, there's no pure untampered Humans in the DC area- outside of the original batch of 87 (who were likely exposed to low doses before full ones to begin with) and possibly the remnants of 106 (who by the time of 87 opening, probably would have interbred with wasters to the point of being nonviable).
They're total retards (ie: 'dumdums') for good reason, yes.

The guy from the institute who got turned into a mutie retained his faculties

That one was a specific, targeted strain (which didn't even fully work, since it turned him into a super mutant against his intentions). Institute tards are probably the only viable group in the Commonwealth (outside of 81) for dipping.
This being said, the Institute strain is definitely a bit smarter to start with.
It's a shame his quest doesn't have some fail condition short of the player just not going through the relevant labs on purpose.

[THE SHOW]

If it wasn't for them being fag worshippers i'd say they'd turn them all into unironic fags before making them evaporate.
Expect the Empty to be an even bigger crater, though- no improvement allowed ever by Bethesda mandate.

 

[30+GameOvers]

“Noooo stalker child you must make a 4 hour video essay regarding why the glint on Lanius’s armor ruins the finale of New Vegas before I shall deign to notice you.”

You saying the writing is “good, no worse than the rest of the game” is such a disservice to the actual good writing of the game I can’t even begin to describe the issues. And “wall of text” it was less than two hundred words longer than the initial comment I was replying to and addressed two points.

You look like a massive retard. Like incapable of observing the contextual clues the Lanius dialogue lacks that would make it an actual effective bit of writing. You’re downplaying how severe a fumble it is by saying “it’s not some grand finale, and is actually really grounded.” It’s excessively extravagant. Every faction in the region has a finger in the pie. The status of the dam determines countless things beyond whose flag sits above the Colorado. Will Vegas maintain independence? Can House be given the opportunity to reach for the stars? Would an independent state really be that bad? This includes the additional fact you could sabotage the dam. Sure the Legion may be routed, but is there even any opportunity for expansion if the NCR cannot secure electricity for the region? It’s an excessively big moment and if you can’t recognize that you might be thick.

If you had something good to say, you wouldn't be sperging out like this. Finish your video essay on the revolutionary topic nobody has discussed within 15 years of that game's lifetime and stop this womanly passive aggressive temper tantrum.

There is also the fan theory that, while 100% not true, was actually kinda funny in that the Brotherhood of Steel in the Fallout TV show had actually merged with the Legion.

I'm thinking they will actually go with that, mostly because it's absolutely retarded and "subverts expectations"(like Vault Tec wanting to le nuke the world because crapitalism bad, ignoring the chinese elephant in the room fully) so I am sure they will go with the worst and dumbest possible option.
Not that I care, this shit ain't canon and it's about as worthy of discussion as BOS aka POS for the PS2 and Xbox was when it released.

 

[Tablet County]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Craig_Boone

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50107

Not to mention that he's written in such a way that you literally can't refute his points

That's just categorically untrue. I spend every Lonesome Road telling Ulysses (in the nicest way) that he's retarded if he thinks I'm responsible for Hopeville.

 

[Star Classic]

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50107

>its not a link to https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/69786

ngmi

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

>its not a link to https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/69786

He ain't the same...

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Video on a possibly based mod. No commentary from what little I saw, just showcasing this mod.
"Hotbox is a nobody, even his nickname is gay." The Youtuber seems to actually have a sense of humor, during the uh..."Suffraghouls" section, when combat starts you just hear some AI song and I swear to God one of the lyrics is "my pimphand is strong" when fighting feminist ghouls. Either the video or mod, this is fun to watch.