FB 1/27: Thanks State Farm, Moar Money Plz

[AtreyuFalcor]

Chris is capable of work, yet simultaneously unemployable. I would imagine with Wendys, his autism opened the door for him, then his attitude is what caused it to be slammed in his face.

I know I keep saying this, and I sound like a broken record, but Chris' autism isn't his biggest problem, it's his attitude to his autism. When you get down to it, he really isn't very disabled at all, I have personally met people with far more debilitating conditions who are employed in some capacity.
The difference will be that these people will have been brought up to challenge their condition and encouraged to push themselves, or at the very least come to terms with what they have and do what they can.
Chris has been taught that the entire world has to readjust itself to accommodate him personally, and that he need never exert himself or be forced into any undesirable situation.

I think your correct. That is why part of me wants his tugboat revoked, at least for a year or so. That way he will be forced to develop a work ethic and make money, even if that be picking up sticks or selling apples on street corner for a nickel a piece. Sure it will be stressful at first, but ultimately it will do him good. If the Republicans sweep Congress this year, the tugboat may be in danger of sinking

 

[tehpope]

There is literally no job that Chris would be competent enough to do. We've decided, in several separate topics that Chris is:

• 
  *snip*
• Too dumb, incompetent and greasy to work in a mail room (seriously, every letter he touched would have to be tested for anthrax)

Ever see that episode of It's Always Sunny where Mac and Charlie get Office jobs and Charlie thinks there's a office conspiracy concerning the mail? I'd imagine OPL would do the same.

[youtube]tkMko2NJzjE[/youtube]

 

[Some JERK]

I believe that if Chris were anyone but Chris, the whole Wendy's fiasco wouldn't have gone down the way it did. Chris most likely got fired in the same way that he got perma-banned from the PLACe. He irritates people to the point where they look for any reason to be rid of him.

 

[Strewth]

There is literally no job that Chris would be competent enough to do. We've decided, in several separate topics that Chris is:

• 
  *snip*
• Too dumb, incompetent and greasy to work in a mail room (seriously, every letter he touched would have to be tested for anthrax)

Ever see that episode of It's Always Sunny where Mac and Charlie get Office jobs and Charlie thinks there's a office conspiracy concerning the mail? I'd imagine OPL would do the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkMko2NJzjE

"ALL letters addressed to any NAME other than "Christian Weston Chandler" or "Christopher Weston Chandler", will be Immediately disposed of with Paper Recyling, or be "Returned to Sender" with a frown face on it. ALL Visually Grotesque, Shocking and Offensive art works and letters will be disposed of properly as well."

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

The only way Chris could get a job would be if he went to the autism support group in Charlottesville and found an agency that specialized in placing people with disabilities in jobs that they could handle, like Goodwill. Chris can earn a certain amount of money and still get the tugboat, which means if I calculated correctly, he could earn about $25,000/year with the tugboat and a job.

Unfortunately, Chris wants other people to give him what he wants instead of going out and contributing to society in a positive way, so even a backroom job at Goodwill is out of the question.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

Chris is capable of work, yet simultaneously unemployable. I would imagine with Wendys, his autism opened the door for him, then his attitude is what caused it to be slammed in his face.

I know I keep saying this, and I sound like a broken record, but Chris' autism isn't his biggest problem, it's his attitude to his autism. When you get down to it, he really isn't very disabled at all, I have personally met people with far more debilitating conditions who are employed in some capacity.
The difference will be that these people will have been brought up to challenge their condition and encouraged to push themselves, or at the very least come to terms with what they have and do what they can.
Chris has been taught that the entire world has to readjust itself to accommodate him personally, and that he need never exert himself or be forced into any undesirable situation.

I think your correct. That is why part of me wants his tugboat revoked, at least for a year or so. That way he will be forced to develop a work ethic and make money, even if that be picking up sticks or selling apples on street corner for a nickel a piece. Sure it will be stressful at first, but ultimately it will do him good. If the Republicans sweep Congress this year, the tugboat may be in danger of sinking

Despite the fact that I agree that Chris needs (and has done for years) tough love and to be thrown in at the deep end, I honestly think that the tugboat isn't just the easiest and most stress free option for him, it's the easiest and most stress free option for everybody.
I mean would you want to be put in charge of turning him into a productive member of society? It'd drive me insane trying to bore through that thick skull of his that he's isn't really entitled to sit in his ass playing vidya while the government picks up the tab, and I certainly wouldn't want to assign him even the most basic task; He burned down his house making a fucking cup of coffee for crying out loud!

Ultimately, it's easiest for the government to just dump a bit of cash in his account every month and just pretend he doesn't exist.

 

[NiggoFiggo]

Chris is capable of work, yet simultaneously unemployable. I would imagine with Wendys, his autism opened the door for him, then his attitude is what caused it to be slammed in his face.

I know I keep saying this, and I sound like a broken record, but Chris' autism isn't his biggest problem, it's his attitude to his autism. When you get down to it, he really isn't very disabled at all, I have personally met people with far more debilitating conditions who are employed in some capacity.
The difference will be that these people will have been brought up to challenge their condition and encouraged to push themselves, or at the very least come to terms with what they have and do what they can.
Chris has been taught that the entire world has to readjust itself to accommodate him personally, and that he need never exert himself or be forced into any undesirable situation.

I think your correct. That is why part of me wants his tugboat revoked, at least for a year or so. That way he will be forced to develop a work ethic and make money, even if that be picking up sticks or selling apples on street corner for a nickel a piece. Sure it will be stressful at first, but ultimately it will do him good. If the Republicans sweep Congress this year, the tugboat may be in danger of sinking

Chris cant and wont changed, the only reason he stopped using the love sign was not because of irs failure to get a girl but because mommy dearest said it makes him look retarded and his ego is so massive that him not looking retarded over rode it because to him he is not slow in the mind. Like right now he has been doing this tomgirl shtick for what 2 years? And haven't seen any postive results but yet he is still doing it, half assing it but still doing it faithfully

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

Yeah, Chris is a mess. I don't even know where to start in making him a productive member of his community. Perhaps volunteering and learning about proper hygiene, and how to deal with

The way I see it, if you're on disability, your full-time job is getting better so you can eventually take care of yourself. Chris can't even handle that. Twice after doing things that would be warning signs to anyone else (going nuts in MLW's office, and being charged with serious offenses after 10/2 he was ordered to get psychiatric help. He needs serious help, and just about everyone but Chris and Barb agrees.

Once he got help, maybe he'd want a part-time job, which the government expects him to have to supplement his tugboat (Uncle Sam made no allowances for strangers from the internet sending him gift cards). Chris can't even do step one right and get the help he needs, so he's never going to get to step two.

Step three would be social skills training, he'd be able to make friends and possibly even get a sweetheart if he could behave himself and act like a decent person. But again, he never went past step one, so that will never happen.

I know this is an oversimplification, but you get the idea.

Even if he managed to get hired doing a menial job, he'd blow it pretty quickly.

I don't disagree, but I assumed he actually wanted a job and did his best to keep it.

 

[CalmMyTits]

The only way Chris could get a job would be if he went to the autism support group in Charlottesville and found an agency that specialized in placing people with disabilities in jobs that they could handle, like Goodwill. Chris can earn a certain amount of money and still get the tugboat, which means if I calculated correctly, he could earn about $25,000/year with the tugboat and a job.

Unfortunately, Chris wants other people to give him what he wants instead of going out and contributing to society in a positive way, so even a backroom job at Goodwill is out of the question.

He would then have to blow all that on vidya. SSDI is not meant to be saved/hoarded, you're not supposed to have more than 2,000 in your account at any given time. SSDI is meant to help with living expenses, and if someone is not spending that money, Uncle Sam will assume they have another source of income, are living rent-free, or whatever.

 

[maninthepicklesuit]

Chris cant and wont change

Sure, Christian can change.

He's changed from a fat, smelly man-child clad in a rugby shirt to a fatter, smellier man-child clad in women's clothing. And after Barb dies, Christian like a butterfly might just emerge from his autistic cocoon as the fattest, smelliest hobo in the C-ville area.

Oh, you meant change for the better. You got me there.

 

[CalmMyTits]

The way I see it, if you're on disability, your full-time job is getting better so you can eventually take care of yourself. Chris can't even handle that.

To be fair, even the most well adjusted high functioning autistics have trouble taking care of themselves.

He would then have to blow all that on vidya. SSDI is not meant to be saved/hoarded, you're not supposed to have more than 2,000 in your account at any given time. SSDI is meant to help with living expenses, and if someone is not spending that money, Uncle Sam will assume they have another source of income, are living rent-free, or whatever.

What about separate accounts? Or turning your social security into cash?

No, I think you can't have more than 2k worth of savings anywhere, this information is easily accessible by Uncle Sam for any account you might have in any banks, I think. Hiding cash in a mattress on the other hand, is a good way to hide it from Uncle Sam but not the best way to save. If I were trying to hide money from the government, I'd invest in gold, or silver, and hide that.

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

The way I see it, if you're on disability, your full-time job is getting better so you can eventually take care of yourself. Chris can't even handle that.

To be fair, even the most well adjusted high functioning autistics have trouble taking care of themselves.

True, but that's not what I meant. He needs serious help to have even some semblance of a normal life, and that's why he's getting the tugboat and other government-subsidized help. He may never live like a neurotypical person, but he could live much more independently and healthy if he actually used the help that was available to him.

He would then have to blow all that on vidya. SSDI is not meant to be saved/hoarded, you're not supposed to have more than 2,000 in your account at any given time. SSDI is meant to help with living expenses, and if someone is not spending that money, Uncle Sam will assume they have another source of income, are living rent-free, or whatever.

Well, I knew there had to be a catch somewhere.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I believe that if Chris were anyone but Chris, the whole Wendy's fiasco wouldn't have gone down the way it did. Chris most likely got fired in the same way that he got perma-banned from the PLACe. He irritates people to the point where they look for any reason to be rid of him.

Considering he worked there for less than 90 days, probably less than 30 hours per week, that's pretty amazing. In a professional environment, it's hard to piss someone off that fast, to the point where they'll fire you... especially at a fast food place where immaturity in the workstaff is just an unfortunate reality.

I wonder if Wendy's practices a "trial period" at the beginning of any new employment, making it clear that they can ditch you for "not fitting in" within the first x days.

 

[CatParty]

Considering he worked there for less than 90 days, probably less than 30 hours per week, that's pretty amazing.

have you heard his donald duck impression?

 

[RP 520]

Even if he managed to get hired doing a menial job, he'd blow it pretty quickly.

I could see him trying to steal trash under orders of Barb if he did somehow manage to get a job again.

 

[Some JERK]

I believe that if Chris were anyone but Chris, the whole Wendy's fiasco wouldn't have gone down the way it did. Chris most likely got fired in the same way that he got perma-banned from the PLACe. He irritates people to the point where they look for any reason to be rid of him.

Considering he worked there for less than 90 days, probably less than 30 hours per week, that's pretty amazing. In a professional environment, it's hard to piss someone off that fast, to the point where they'll fire you... especially at a fast food place where immaturity in the workstaff is just an unfortunate reality.

I wonder if Wendy's practices a "trial period" at the beginning of any new employment, making it clear that they can ditch you for "not fitting in" within the first x days.

True, but how many hours of listening to someone prattle on about his shitty sonic recolor would it take to irritate you to the point where you never wanted to see them again? keep in mind that you're trying to work a somewhat fast paced, stressful job while this is going on.

(also, i feel like the last half of this thread should probably be split into the appropriate "chris and employment" thread, cause we're all getting pretty off topic here.)

 

[RP 520]

After Barb dies, Christian like a butterfly might just emerge from his autistic cocoon as the fattest, smelliest hobo in the C-ville area.

I'm of the opinion that Post-Barb Chris could go one of three ways:

• Fat, greasy hobo, like you suggested
• Fat, greasy mental patient
• Fat, greasy prison inmate/prag

Personally my money's on mental patient.

I agree, considering since the string of shootings that have happened recently a lot of states are starting to fund mental health facilities a bit more. I can't see him landing in prison though unless he did something like start taking drugs, burglary, sexual-predation. Seeing how Chris is he is way too big of a wuss to do anything greater than vandalize a cardboard sign with a sharpie or throw a fit in a public place, the most I could see him getting is a few months jail time and/or community service at most. Also you have to remember that during the October incident Barb was with him and was probably egging him on, giving him motivation and drive and told him to shut up and hit the gas when Snyder was in the way. Then of course Barb tried to attack the police officer. Once Barb dies Chris will probably still be an angry person that will make threats etc. but he will probably be way less likely to act on them since Barb will no longer be there to give him the motivation.

If anything Barb is probably way more likely to end up in prison than Chris is.

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

I realize Chris is dangerously unintelligent and quite autistic but he should be able to grasp the simple idea that he doesn't deserve anything to be handed to him. There's a person collecting carts at your local supermarket with down syndrome who gets that concept. Why can't he?

Because his parents didn't teach it to him and he's not self-aware enough to realise it on his own.

I understand that but how long can "My parents didn't teach me." be an excuse? If its not his autism, its his stupidity, if its not his stupidity its his naivete, if its not his naivete its his upbringing.

This isn't aimed at you, batman. Or anyone for that matter. But sometimes I feel like we get so used to dealing with Chris and his excuses that we start to actually excuse him for alot of his behavior. Chris is still 31 going on 32. His situation was and is bad but theres people who have bounced back from worse. I know Chris won't do better. But if I didn't believe Chris could do better I wouldn't follow Christory. Also, I wouldn't make fun of him.



That last parts a lie. I'd make fun of him less though.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Anyone else assume they'll only be renting 1 bed for the two of them?

I would imagine a two bed house would be the standard response in these situations, but that does beg the question, will Barb allow Chris some privacy?

Also, I hate to seem negative, but the insurance seems to be doing it's job, the tugboat is still coming in, so why exactly does he need more stuff?

He needs more money because he's going to spend all of the on video games and toys.

And McDonald's, lots and lots of McDonald's.

 

[Marvin]

I realize Chris is dangerously unintelligent and quite autistic but he should be able to grasp the simple idea that he doesn't deserve anything to be handed to him. There's a person collecting carts at your local supermarket with down syndrome who gets that concept. Why can't he?

Because his parents didn't teach it to him and he's not self-aware enough to realise it on his own.

I understand that but how long can "My parents didn't teach me." be an excuse? If its not his autism, its his stupidity, if its not his stupidity its his naivete, if its not his naivete its his upbringing.

This isn't aimed at you, batman. Or anyone for that matter. But sometimes I feel like we get so used to dealing with Chris and his excuses that we start to actually excuse him for alot of his behavior. Chris is still 31 going on 32. His situation was and is bad but theres people who have bounced back from worse. I know Chris won't do better. But if I didn't believe Chris could do better I wouldn't follow Christory. Also, I wouldn't make fun of him.

Chris has serious mental issues right now. I don't think they're entirely physical, but his childhood was probably ground into his noggin with the help of autism. But whatever the causes, while it's physically possible for Chris to be successful, on his own, mentally, I really don't think it is. Like I say a lot, Chris could be trained to live a very great life, considering his flaws. But Barb's not going to do that. So otherwise, Chris is fucked.