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Clown Doll said:
He could put up a Kickstarter for a new Sonichu / Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Adventures comic series and it could elicit some new interest in people for new content where Chris is allowed to be more creative than his current commission line.
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You'd think, but that requires more creativity than what I think we get from Chris normally. Far as we know (and what we know is a load thanks to his infamous honesty), Sonichu is pretty much all he knows. Plus, Plan CWCstarter wouldn't get off the ground when most Kickstarter campaigns are for funding, resources and development. That's why stretch goals in game development Kickstarters tend to be extras that would be real cool to see; it's about what might be nice to have but isn't essential for a finished product. What's Chris going to ask for in terms of funds? The 50 bucks it'd take to get more markers, maybe a few hundred dollars on a new all-in-one or computer, a few hundred more in photo editing software that would likely be too stressful to learn? That's if people are charitable. If they aren't, and don't think word hasn't spread on Chris by now, they'll smell a rat as soon as the campaign's goal goes past three digits.

I should know, I've contributed to more than my fair share and don't part with cash that easily.
 
Chris will be hanging out at truck stops doing "services" for legos pretty soon.:pickle:
If Chris was smart he would've put a percentage of the money he made into a savings account and made some sort of stipulation about him or his mom not being able to touch it until he's 40.
 
I think we all need to put pressure on Chris to start selling his Legos on eBay. Until he shows some desire to put security over toys, nobody should buy anything from him. Let him prove that he's willing to make genuine and substantial cuts to his toy box before you give him any free money for his doodles. Sell off toys, and stop bitching to us. If money is that important, let him make some sacrifices of his own for a change.
 
Clown Doll said:
He could put up a Kickstarter for a new Sonichu / Christian Weston Chandler's Adult Adventures comic series and it could elicit some new interest in people for new content where Chris is allowed to be more creative than his current commission line.
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We have a better chance of seeing Bob rise from the dead than Chris actually fulfilling this. He would take the money and then spout out excuse after excuse as to why he isn't creating content.
 
Going back even a few months, who would have expected Chris to type out the words "let me work for you" - even if he has followed it up with "by drawing"?

This is Chris, working for money.

Yes, he sucks at it. Yes, he limps from screw-up to screw-up. But this is Chris' longest period of paid work in his life. He's making mistakes he should have made in his first job as a teenager, and he's learning from them slower than a normal person would...because Chris is slower than a normal person.

Small victories...
 
ChurchOfGodBear said:
At this point... all I want to say to Chris is that most eBay shoppers don't check the seller's Facebook page before ordering something. The fact that Chris can post this and actually have it reach its desired audience is more than a little weird.
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Realistically, he's not getting substantial sales from random ebay browsers.

He posts it on Facebook, we post it here, it disseminates to other sites. Not sure if he's avoiding the fact that he's begging money from the same people he accuses of bullying him or if he's deploying DOUBLETHINK ATTACK! to avoid thinking too much about it.
 
We could be close to where Chris starts advertising making videos on eBay, but that would be a logical next step, thus not one he would take.
 
Anna and Rocky are going to have a difficult time paying for enough orders for Chris to get however many hundreds he needs, just the two of them.

pickleniggo said:
See, I'm not against Chris selling shitty drawings and ugly autographs to make money. I'm against Chris thinking he will continue to make money after a few spergs actually purchase his garbage. That's a dangerous idea to plant in his head, and it's the reason for all of his recent fb posts. He doesn't realize the well is going to dry up very, very quick.
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But to be fair, nobody planted the idea in his head, not deliberately. He decided on his own to try selling his work (well, people have suggested it to him in the past, but not recently enough for this to be connected), and a bunch of people said "sure, why not" and bought some stuff. Those people who did comprise the entire pool of people who will ever buy from him, and one purchase is enough for nearly all of them. It's Chris's fault for not having a better idea of the size and shape of his market, and it is really his fault for spending hundreds of dollars on legos when he knows that he still has thousands in debt he needs to pay off.

I'm going to preemptively make a request of people here: when the time comes that Chris can't pay his rent or bills or whatever, nobody put together a charity for him, not like what happened after the fire. Some I know agree, some may think I'm sounding too unforgiving, but the reason I ask is not because I think charity is wrong or that Chris doesn't deserve mercy. The reason I'm asking, rather, is because I'd like to have the discussion only once - and if people do put together a donation drive for Chris when he runs out of money, we're going to have to have the same discussion all over again a month later when Chris has blown his money and needs rescue again.

Because that's what this Ebay stuff is, essentially. He's begging for money because he's rapidly running out, but even if people kept buying, he has no escape plan and he'd be on this razor's edge forever.
 
Dear Chris,

If you want more money, you need to get a job. Drawing Sonichus is not a job.

Sincerely,

The Universe
 
Absinthe said:
This is Chris, working for money.
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No, no it's not. The closest Chris has ever gotten to working was when he was at Wendy's. Hell, I'd say him pulling a few weeds in the hot, hot sun was closer to actual work that what Chris is doing now. What Chris is doing right now is what he's been doing for the past 20+ years, doodling sonichu on scraps of paper while pissing away his life. Only difference is now some weens are willing to pay for those doodles. Selling crap on ebay isn't work. It's what you do on the weekend when you have a free moment, want to get rid of some junk and think you can make a buck off it.
 
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Alec Benson Leary said:
I'm going to preemptively make a request of people here: when the time comes that Chris can't pay his rent or bills or whatever, nobody put together a charity for him, not like what happened after the fire. Some I know agree, some may think I'm sounding too unforgiving, but the reason I ask is not because I think charity is wrong or that Chris doesn't deserve mercy. The reason I'm asking, rather, is because I'd like to have the discussion only once - and if people do put together a donation drive for Chris when he runs out of money, we're going to have to have the same discussion all over again a month later when Chris has blown his money and needs rescue again.
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I was in for the housefire drive because, despite the fire being caused by neglect and idiocy, it was still essentially a tragedy that was beyond their control that could have happened to anyone. When the Chandlers find themselves up shit creek moneywise, I will have no sympathy for them and will not give them a red cent, because it'll be their own fault for lack of planning. Between Barb harassing the insurance people, and Chris piddling away the money, the two have shot themselves in the foot repeatedly.

Let's tally this up. It's August. The housefire happened in January. The forums put together a care package worth about $1200. In the last month, Chris has made over $2000 in one fell swoop from autographs, and then at least another $800 in miscellaneous commissions.

Chris's internet audience has given him an average of $500 A MONTH over the past eight months, in addition to the tugboat Chris normally gets and the insurance claim. There is no reason to think giving these people MORE money will in any way help them. If they beg for more, fuck the fucking fuckers.
 
I really hope things turn out ok for him and Barb. Chris is simply a doofus on the internet, if you legitimately want terrible things to happen to him you need to really re-evaluate your life.
 
bungholio said:
if you legitimately want terrible things to happen to him you need to really re-evaluate your life.
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That's fair. I just don't want anyone to think it's the internet's job to prevent terrible things happening to him forever when he won't do anything to help himself (and deliberately sabotages honest attempts to help him).
 
I don't want terrible things to happen to him. I just recognize that he's living in such a way that makes it extremely likely that terrible things will happen to him, and when they do, I have no intention of acting surprised.
 
Was it Harry Partridge who proposed that Chris create a revenue stream by posting ad-tie-in videos, or starting a pay-per-view service? Really, his insane and hilarious vidyas are what made his reputation, and got thousands of people to follow his antics; I can see him making a modest income by creating and posting two or three each week and having some sort of commercial link.

He may be slowly realizing that it's him -- not Sonichu or his Lego creations -- that's the marketable commodity under his control. Whether that insight translates into self-exploitation, remains to be seen.
 
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