Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Aramis]

A monthly sunshine bus to a brothel is probably not arranged, but maybe staff discretely supervise them to a madam one at a time?

Christ no.

 

[Minecraft Axolotl]

Anyone in his presence for so long as a minute probably realizes "that boy ain't right in the head."

Thats putting it lightly. I think most peoples fight or flight response would activate with how goddamn creepy he got

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

Anyone in his presence for so long as a minute probably realizes "that boy ain't right in the head."

 

[Dylan]

The real reason he's moved is to have his SRS surgery at Rumer's cut'n'go.
She'll drill his taint deep so that he can feel like a real and honest woman.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Anyone in his presence for so long as a minute probably realizes "that boy ain't right in the head."

Obligatory

 

[GypsyBard]

Why would drugs change anything? Chris is not schizophrenic. He isn't having hallucinations, He's just really stupid and has idiotic beliefs. As far as I know there are no drugs that can make you change your beliefs.

They probably are going to give him schizo drugs because they assume he is hallucinating, since they would assume nobody could believe the things Chris believes otherwise. When they don't work, they'll be puzzled as to why until they realize there were never hallucinations, and he really is stupid enough to believe he's married to hedgehog poke-mans and stuff like that.

Oh dude there's a possibility we never touched on before.
If you take schizophrenia meds when you don't need them they can really fuck you up.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

<powerlevel> Not a mental health professional, but I am courtroom staff and have clerked Aid & Assist hearings. The following is based only on my experience and reading the documents involved in these cases.</powerlevel>

Primarily what happens in the course of treatment in a state hospital for defendants is that they are required to attend legal education classes. This may or may not be a benefit to them initially, but usually once the Rx is sorted out and they become more responsive, they become well enough to clear that very low bar. Examples of the questions they must be able to answer (recorded in the psych reports) are:

• What are you charged with?
• Do you know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor? Which is worse?
• How should you behave in the courtroom?
• What does your defense attorney do? Do you get along with them all right?
• If you need to ask your defense attorney a question during court, what should you do?
• What does the judge in the courtroom do?
• What does the prosecutor in the courtroom do?

Things like that. Chris could learn the 'correct' answers and memorize them in time, because they really don't touch upon his fantasy. If he isn't persistent about his craziness during this particular part of the evaluation, he can probably be determined to 'aid and assist' in his defense. However, since he is wholly immersed in his fantasies, he tends to perservere and may spend the rest of the evaluation meeting blabbering nonsense. But, he could learn these answers. A lot of it may well be news to him. In spite of his previous encounters, I wonder how much of this process he understands even on a basic level.
In the report of the evaluation meeting, there is sometimes a diagnosis, and the doctor can have an unofficial opinion whether he is fit to proceed. All of the other documentation of his behaviour is also taken into consideration, as well as whether or not there has been any progress (usually evaluated shortly after admission, in 90 days, and again nearing 180 days).
If he is deemed fit to stand trial at the end of the treatment, they will be back in court. Mr. Heilberg is smart to time this to conclude (probably) with the end of what would be the usual time served. It is very likely that the timeline of his transfer has more to do with availability of a locked mental health bed than anything else.
Meanwhile, the staff/his attorney/their staff/social workers etc., have probably been looking for a secured facility for him. It will be likely he will be considered a sex offender even if he does not have to register (I do not know what that criteria includes or doesn't), so this will basically be a fairly secure home for adult male retards. Where that ends up being is going to be entirely dependent on what is available.

tl:dr Maybe, but I'll bet the rent he's in a state hospital.

Sounds like they might be trying to coach Chris how to behave on the stand just enough to get the trial going. Teach him the right answers to say to the judge so they can get him into the courtroom, have him agree to a plea bargain, and get him out of the system. Does something like that happen at these places just to get a trial done and over with?

 

[redcent]

Are there any americans who work or who have been at psychiatric hospitals who know what the daily routine is like there for Chris? My associate has some experiencences but they're likely to differ. Might help deter people expecting "one flew over cuckoo's nest" movie stuff to happen.

Edit for example: they were allowed to wear normal clothing but the laces of your shoes were removed (stop people making nooses out of them), mobile phone was conviscated but there was a public phone they could use. Patients interacted and food was okay hospital food. Probably better than prison food

Might be different in usa tho

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Are there any americans who work or who have been at psychiatric hospitals who know what the daily routine is like there for Chris? My associate has some experiencences but they're likely to differ. Might help deter people expecting "one flew over cuckoo's nest" movie stuff to happen.

Edit for example: they were allowed to wear normal clothing but the laces of your shoes were removed (stop people making nooses out of them), mobile phone was conviscated but there was a public phone they could use. Patients interacted and food was okay hospital food. Probably better than prison food

Might be different in usa tho

Depends on type of facility and what he's in for.

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

On a side note, one of my comments in this thread was used in a JohnGameTimefun YT vid, so I've got that going for me.

I'M FAMOUS ON THE INTERNET!!!

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Sounds like they might be trying to coach Chris how to behave on the stand just enough to get the trial going. Teach him the right answers to say to the judge so they can get him into the courtroom, have him agree to a plea bargain, and get him out of the system. Does something like that happen at these places just to get a trial done and over with?

Short answer, no. The really crazy ones never get there. If it's something that's possibly treatable (schizophrenia, substance abuse, depression with psychosis, bipolar) they may stabilize enough to realize that they have done something wrong and cooperate with defense. In that case a hearing is held to determine what the next steps are. Sometimes it's jail. But the whole idea is to get someone who can participate in their court case, i.e., not make things worse for themselves.
Many people don't know much about what happens in court except what they may have seen in movies or television, and those are poor sources of information. The legal education supplied is basically a short course in reality.

edit because stupid typing

 

[Pappy Striderite]

About? Qualified professionals can care for him better than people who want to watch him bang his mom.

that's not true. one of those groups is paid by the hour and has no quality control.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Based on your experience, do you think we'll ever hear from Chris again or of him?

Or will he be off the grid in these facilities and halfway homes indefinitely?

It depends on the facility. Since Chris' problem is being a tard and therefore he believes in his fantasies, it's going to be different than the what happens to someone who is delusional as a result of psychosis. Basically, he needs a wrangler to keep him on track. He may well have some form of mental illness, but just treating that medically won't be sufficient to allow him to live safely as an independent person. He will likely not need a 'hospital level of care' once he is stabilized, but he is going to need a lot of supervision. He should have had that supervsion all along, but we all know what happened there.

 

[AnOminous]

Are there any americans who work or who have been at psychiatric hospitals who know what the daily routine is like there for Chris? My associate has some experiencences but they're likely to differ. Might help deter people expecting "one flew over cuckoo's nest" movie stuff to happen.

It's seriously erratic. American psychiatric hospitals range from horrifying snake pits (state-run are often like this) to the kind of shit you get with a Cadillac health plan, which can be almost like a luxury resort (albeit one where you are not allowed to have shoelaces).

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

It's seriously erratic. American psychiatric hospitals range from horrifying snake pits (state-run are often like this) to the kind of shit you get with a Cadillac health plan, which can be almost like a luxury resort (albeit one where you are not allowed to have shoelaces).

I'm laughing right now because Chris probably has a full beard since he's not allowed access to a razor.

 

[HaloHero65]

Are there any americans who work or who have been at psychiatric hospitals who know what the daily routine is like there for Chris? My associate has some experiencences but they're likely to differ. Might help deter people expecting "one flew over cuckoo's nest" movie stuff to happen.

Edit for example: they were allowed to wear normal clothing but the laces of your shoes were removed (stop people making nooses out of them), mobile phone was conviscated but there was a public phone they could use. Patients interacted and food was okay hospital food. Probably better than prison food

Might be different in usa tho

Generally speaking from experience with ex patients and knowing staff.
It really depends on the funny farm

State hospitals ie state run criminally insane homes are going to be prison like with 1 to 2 people per room. And no real personal possessions but with doors that swing outwards etc etc,

Funny farms (if you're from Pennsylvania you'll recognize the names The meadows and Green Meanie) run by private companies generally lack the best staff as most people will be working for more pay at a state run hospital


Food is generally standard hospital grub with additional vitamins and supplements added for better patient health. Although some people say the state hospitals have better food.
Personal items depends on how much security you get. One person I know was allowed to keep a necklace but put it on a ball chain as to not be a danger. Socks and slippers are standard fair with some particular patients given velcro shoes for outdoor activities.
You won't find many electronics but I know that you will find arts and crafts in great supply and patients may decorate their rooms at the less secure homes.

Otherwise you have 6 hour checks on most patients with 1 or 2 hour checks on problem patients. That's about it.
Patient interactions can be limited If a patient might cause shared delusionals ie like Chris.

I've added an image of the green Meanie or green monster mental ward

 

[Pappy Striderite]

Chris probably has a full beard since he's not allowed access to a razor.

depends on if he's on HRT, but yeah. he always had a 5o'clock shadow. it'll just be disgusting 2" peach fuzz strings.

uugh. i just imagined the smell. frothy chin dreads. t/y...

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

depends on if he's on HRT, but yeah. he always had a 5o'clock shadow. it'll just be disgusting 2" peach fuzz strings.

uugh. i just imagined the smell. frothy chin dreads. t/y...

Beards don't go away with HRT. Let's not forget, he's also a sasquatch covered in body hair.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

Beards don't go away with HRT.

they do thin. regardless...
his letter about, "picture me with the beard and look at pix of jesus!"
keeps popping in my head now. lol
what a sea hag goddess christ of a chris. he can't complain, right? he kinda needs the beard if he's going to be jesus. FFS, nobody wants baby-smooth jesus!

 

[Skitterways]

Are there any Americans who work or who have been at psychiatric hospitals who know what the daily routine is like there for Chris? My associate has some experiences but they're likely to differ. Might help deter people expecting "one flew over cuckoo's nest" movie stuff to happen.

Wake up-shower/dress time. Showers are scheduled for patients, either morning or evening.
Group therapy/ goals for the day.
Breakfast. Depending on the unit the patients either go to the cafeteria or food is brought to the unit on a mobile meal cart. (If it's residential long term treatment they probably go to the cafeteria by residential hall. If it's an acute care facility the food cart comes to them.)
Morning medication time. Vital signs/ weights/etc.
Meet with social worker or MD or other.
Lunch. Vital signs/ weights/etc.
Group therapy.
Meet with social worker or MD or other.
Free time. Laundry time.
Dinner.
Evening medication time. Vital signs/ weights/etc.
Group therapy/ reflection on progress, goals, feelings.
Free time and phone time. Laundry time. Certain days visiting hour.
Evening shower/bedtime routine time.

No belts, no necklaces, no scarves, no shoelaces, no drawstrings, some units-slippers only. Personal clothing allowed in most cases after it has been thoroughly searched. No cavity searches. On units with chronic self-harmers or those with medical conditions they are simultaneously being treated for clothing may be hospital issued.
Psychiatric aides generally round and chart on patents every 15 minutes. Multiple ledgers with patient photos held by various staff because patients like to swap/tear off wrist bands and don't wear ID badges.
I've worked at 2 different privately owned facilities in 2 different states. One was a well respected university owned 350 bed acute care facility with 10 different units grouped by age and patient diagnosis. Nice facility amenities wise for the patients. Pay was low and the mandatory overtime was plentiful. Even though we received some patients from the local jails and returned them there, we never used jail/prison staff because we had our own trained staff.
The other was a privately owned long term residential care facility for adolescents. About 200 beds and the facility was a dump. Decent pay but lots of mandatory overtime. Again we received patients from the local juvenile jails and returned them there, we never used jail staff because we had our own trained staff.
If Heilberg and Greene County managed to get Chris in a state mental health facility, I am super impressed. Truly. The acute care facility I worked at many times recommended patients for continued care in state facilities and almost never could get them a bed and had to settle for outpatient care, group homes, or nursing homes.