Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[King Kiwi]

I have no idea of the veracity of whatever this fag is saying, but he's obviously a soy-filled gimp of some sort and I want to slap him.

This is the guy that goes to the store and asks you where the plant-based cookies are.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

This is the guy that goes to the store and asks you where the plant-based cookies are.

Followed by him proudly announcing he wet himself just like Chris.

 

[AnOminous]

Huh. I didn't know that
Thankfully his eyes, face, and the rest of him are asymmetrical to match so he'll never be able to escape them. Not that he has the brain cells to do that either

Anyone in his presence for so long as a minute probably realizes "that boy ain't right in the head."

 

[King Kiwi]

Followed by him proudly announcing he wet himself just like Chris.

All right I'll be the one to say it.

I think we're all worried about our tard fart.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

All right I'll be the one to say it.

I think we're all worried about our tard fart.

About? Qualified professionals can care for him better than people who want to watch him bang his mom.

 

[ShimmyHolmes]

Chris Chandler 'bout to become Chris Trepannedler.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I know everyone says he's too narcissistic to kill himself but people also said he was to wimpy to rape anyone.

He'd have to find a way to kill himself that was not uncomfortable, or one he could not reverse one begun, most likely. If he tried to hang himself he'd probably fuck up the construction of the noose.

The only truly painful thing Chris has ever done willingly is cutting his taint, but that was because he was gleefully gaining his vagina.

if he plays the system (which he's too tarded to do) he could be in there as little as a couple of weeks.
if he stays tarded as he is at the moment, minimum 4 months, maximum? however long heilburg thinks, or long enough to be ruled unfit (which depends, for chris it would probably take 6-8 months)

If he's not there for self-harm, then he's already been ruled unfit at the February hearing. Unless he makes a remarkable turnaround he's probably going to be there until July. If that's the case, the July hearing almost certainly will include a review to see if they can proceed, or if they have to send him back for more treatment.

If he *is* there for self-harm, he probably won't be there very long.

State Hospitals were never banned. They attempted to desinstitutionalize many people and ended up with a bunch of unmedicated people in jails instead. There are fewer now but the still exist. That looks like your run of a mill state hospital specifically for the mentally ill in long-term placement. It doesn't look like one Chris woud go to dont know anything about it, but it doesn't appear to be one for incarerated people.

Yup. All they did was make it incredibly hard to give people civil commitment, and released the people already in the facilities that didn't meet the new bar. The few remaining hospitals mostly house temporary holds and people who were in prison/jail already and got transferred. The remainder are the NGRIs that they still get from time to time.

So, we're not getting another letter for 20-30 years?

That depends entirely on Chris. He has to reach a point where they okay his ability to write letters. It's not that hard to do, he just has to be able to have coherent communication and not chimp out. They might also prevent him from writing letters if they determine that it's hurting his treatment, but that would be a fairly serious decision.

It could also be that he can already write letters but they confiscated his goddess log where he kept all the weens addresses.

Guys please don't do this. Whatever you do don't call the facili(ties), do not politely ask if they have any information on Christine/Christian Weston Chandler.

Do not mention that an assortment of colleagues of his are concerned about him and whatever you do, under no circumstance, do NOT write to him.

If you call, they won't tell you shit. They're not supposed to tell you anything, and they won't even hint unless they think you're a concerned relative. To get any info a semi-functional Chris has to sign a HIPAA release authorizing you.

If you write a letter to Chris, they *might* deliver it, but you won't get any confirmation if it's delivered (though they might send it back, and you'd at least know that Chris didn't receive it).

Or they applied for him to get into a hospital for evaluation/de-tarding at the very outset and there weren't any spaces so he had to wait months. I am sure there have been tard rages but in jails if you tard out they just hit you with things until you stop. And then maybe patch you up a bit and throw you in solitary for a month. There wouldn't be many more than one.

My best guess is that at the Feb hearing Chris was deemed incompetent, and given a six month review, when we'll get the plea bargain if he's deemed okay. This gave them a safe place to stash Chris and get him ready for placement in a tard home, which will seem like an upgrade to him after the state hospital.

Alternatively, and I can't believe that I hadn't thought of this before, Chris might have been already convicted in February, and given a year sentence, and we were just never told. The next hearing on the docket could just be a post-conviction hearing for review of his tard release. This would explain Chris' belief that he was getting out -- if he'd already signed a plea agreement and for some reason didn't realize that it wouldn't let him go home right away like the last ones did. Of course that would potentially scrap the agreement, and I don't think Heilberg would allow that to happen (since if there were no more charges, then he could potentially no longer be Chris' attorney, though there may be some tard law that could keep him on)

You mean exactly like how it said he would never rape anyone before he raped his mother?

We still don't know if it was rape. And I still assert that Chris could only "rape" someone that was just lying back and thinking of England, or someone literally passed out drunk. If he did rape Barb it was only because she was super feeble, but if he did forcefully rape her I don't see how this could stay in J&DR court for so long. They would be bringing the banhammer down on him as fast as they could.

 

[D_Tractor]

They purposefully are asymmetrical to make the wearer's outline visible at any distance and impossible to break up by hiding against objects/in foliage. It's like counter-camo. If they were symmetrical your outline/silhouette would be less distinct at a distance.

No. The tard buttoned them wrong. Look at how the collars are uneven.

 

[FinnSven]

I was hoping for Eastern State. Friend of mine did some contractor work there and tells all kinds of stories, like the guy who asked to borrow his screwdriver so he could make a hole in his own head, and the guy who asked my friend in all sincerity "Are you God?"

Had a fun picture of my friend doing some work there and Chris waddling up and going "Have you heard about da Merge? My name is Jesus Chris Chan Weston Chandler Sonichu Emmanuelle Mewtwo"

Where does the “Emmanuelle” thing come from?

He doesn’t think he is a french young lustful chick, I hope?

 

[King Kiwi]

About? Qualified professionals can care for him better than people who want to watch him bang his mom.

When did I ever say that we were going to care for him and his mental needs?

I just meant that not knowing where he is for the last month is causing a lot of buzz.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

When did I ever say that we were going to care for him and his mental needs?

I just meant that not knowing where he is for the last month is causing a lot of buzz.

But, we know tye options. Criminal nut house or plain nut house.

 

[Michael Janke]

If you call, they won't tell you shit. They're not supposed to tell you anything, and they won't even hint unless they think you're a concerned relative. To get any info a semi-functional Chris has to sign a HIPAA release authorizing you.

If you write a letter to Chris, they *might* deliver it, but you won't get any confirmation if it's delivered (though they might send it back, and you'd at least know that Chris didn't receive it).

why cant i reply to the indian guy?
in any case, chris is anything but discrete, the moment he's allowed contact with the outside world people will know about it. the main issue is figuring out where the hell chris is. there can't be that many loony bins in Virginia right? he'd also be housed in an adult facility, so that probably narrows down the search a bit.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

<powerlevel> Not a mental health professional, but I am courtroom staff and have clerked Aid & Assist hearings. The following is based only on my experience and reading the documents involved in these cases.</powerlevel>

Primarily what happens in the course of treatment in a state hospital for defendants is that they are required to attend legal education classes. This may or may not be a benefit to them initially, but usually once the Rx is sorted out and they become more responsive, they become well enough to clear that very low bar. Examples of the questions they must be able to answer (recorded in the psych reports) are:

• What are you charged with?
• Do you know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor? Which is worse?
• How should you behave in the courtroom?
• What does your defense attorney do? Do you get along with them all right?
• If you need to ask your defense attorney a question during court, what should you do?
• What does the judge in the courtroom do?
• What does the prosecutor in the courtroom do?

Things like that. Chris could learn the 'correct' answers and memorize them in time, because they really don't touch upon his fantasy. If he isn't persistent about his craziness during this particular part of the evaluation, he can probably be determined to 'aid and assist' in his defense. However, since he is wholly immersed in his fantasies, he tends to perservere and may spend the rest of the evaluation meeting blabbering nonsense. But, he could learn these answers. A lot of it may well be news to him. In spite of his previous encounters, I wonder how much of this process he understands even on a basic level.
In the report of the evaluation meeting, there is sometimes a diagnosis, and the doctor can have an unofficial opinion whether he is fit to proceed. All of the other documentation of his behaviour is also taken into consideration, as well as whether or not there has been any progress (usually evaluated shortly after admission, in 90 days, and again nearing 180 days).
If he is deemed fit to stand trial at the end of the treatment, they will be back in court. Mr. Heilberg is smart to time this to conclude (probably) with the end of what would be the usual time served. It is very likely that the timeline of his transfer has more to do with availability of a locked mental health bed than anything else.
Meanwhile, the staff/his attorney/their staff/social workers etc., have probably been looking for a secured facility for him. It will be likely he will be considered a sex offender even if he does not have to register (I do not know what that criteria includes or doesn't), so this will basically be a fairly secure home for adult male retards. Where that ends up being is going to be entirely dependent on what is available.

tl:dr Maybe, but I'll bet the rent he's in a state hospital.

 

[FinnSven]

Meanwhile, the staff/his attorney/their staff/social workers etc., have probably been looking for a secured facility for him. It will be likely he will be considered a sex offender even if he does not have to register (I do not know what that criteria includes or doesn't), so this will basically be a fairly secure home for adult male retards. Where that ends up being is going to be entirely dependent on what is available.

tl:dr Maybe, but I'll bet the rent he's in a state hospital.

Weird question I suppose, and if you don’t know, you don’t know, but do these secure adult male retard homes allow them to have sexual relationships or visit prostitutes or something?

I take it they are not actual prisoners, and if they are the kinds of tards who can get rapey or inappropriate without a sexual outlet, then that is obviously a concern.

A monthly sunshine bus to a brothel is probably not arranged, but maybe staff discretely supervise them to a madam one at a time?

Or do they just mix in a libido killer into their morning coco pops?

 

[King Kiwi]

<powerlevel> Not a mental health professional, but I am courtroom staff and have clerked Aid & Assist hearings. The following is based only on my experience and reading the documents involved in these cases.</powerlevel>

Primarily what happens in the course of treatment in a state hospital for defendants is that they are required to attend legal education classes. This may or may not be a benefit to them initially, but usually once the Rx is sorted out and they become more responsive, they become well enough to clear that very low bar. Examples of the questions they must be able to answer (recorded in the psych reports) are:

• What are you charged with?
• Do you know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor? Which is worse?
• How should you behave in the courtroom?
• What does your defense attorney do? Do you get along with them all right?
• If you need to ask your defense attorney a question during court, what should you do?
• What does the judge in the courtroom do?
• What does the prosecutor in the courtroom do?

Things like that. Chris could learn the 'correct' answers and memorize them in time, because they really don't touch upon his fantasy. If he isn't persistent about his craziness during this particular part of the evaluation, he can probably be determined to 'aid and assist' in his defense. However, since he is wholly immersed in his fantasies, he tends to perservere and may spend the rest of the evaluation meeting blabbering nonsense. But, he could learn these answers. A lot of it may well be news to him. In spite of his previous encounters, I wonder how much of this process he understands even on a basic level.
In the report of the evaluation meeting, there is sometimes a diagnosis, and the doctor can have an unofficial opinion whether he is fit to proceed. All of the other documentation of his behaviour is also taken into consideration, as well as whether or not there has been any progress (usually evaluated shortly after admission, in 90 days, and again nearing 180 days).
If he is deemed fit to stand trial at the end of the treatment, they will be back in court. Mr. Heilberg is smart to time this to conclude (probably) with the end of what would be the usual time served. It is very likely that the timeline of his transfer has more to do with availability of a locked mental health bed than anything else.
Meanwhile, the staff/his attorney/their staff/social workers etc., have probably been looking for a secured facility for him. It will be likely he will be considered a sex offender even if he does not have to register (I do not know what that criteria includes or doesn't), so this will basically be a fairly secure home for adult male retards. Where that ends up being is going to be entirely dependent on what is available.

tl:dr Maybe, but I'll bet the rent he's in a state hospital.

So basically the Dai Li have Chris in a hidden bunker under a lake somewhere and are brainwashing him as we speak?

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Weird question I suppose, and if you don’t know, you don’t know, but do these secure adult male retard homes allow them to have sexual relationships or visit prostitutes or something?

Not that I am aware of. There are barely enough funds to house and feed them, this sort of thing isn't even on the radar. It may well be that the meds some of them are on make this a moot point. I honestly don't know what they do to control hypersexual retards of either gender, but I know it's a sensitive and persistent problem.

 

[King Kiwi]

Not that I am aware of. There are barely enough funds to house and feed them, this sort of thing isn't even on the radar. It may well be that the meds some of them are on make this a moot point. I honestly don't know what they do to control hypersexual retards of either gender, but I know it's a sensitive and persistent problem.

Based on your experience, do you think we'll ever hear from Chris again or of him?

Or will he be off the grid in these facilities and halfway homes indefinitely?

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

I am not sure how much I can say due to HIPAA guidelines, But I can confirm as of today Chris is in Western State Hospital. Which if anyone is familiar with this particular place, chris will likely not stay here long, This is the kind of place that makes you wish you were in jail. Weirdly enough chris has sort of been here before in that urban exploring video.

I think you need to tell more about your source for us to be able to believe you. If you were one of the professionals who whom HIPPA applies, you would be well aware of the line regarding what you can say.

<powerlevel> Not a mental health professional, but I am courtroom staff and have clerked Aid & Assist hearings. The following is based only on my experience and reading the documents involved in these cases.</powerlevel>

Primarily what happens in the course of treatment in a state hospital for defendants is that they are required to attend legal education classes. This may or may not be a benefit to them initially, but usually once the Rx is sorted out and they become more responsive, they become well enough to clear that very low bar. Examples of the questions they must be able to answer (recorded in the psych reports) are:

• What are you charged with?
• Do you know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor? Which is worse?
• How should you behave in the courtroom?
• What does your defense attorney do? Do you get along with them all right?
• If you need to ask your defense attorney a question during court, what should you do?
• What does the judge in the courtroom do?
• What does the prosecutor in the courtroom do?

Things like that. Chris could learn the 'correct' answers and memorize them in time, because they really don't touch upon his fantasy. If he isn't persistent about his craziness during this particular part of the evaluation, he can probably be determined to 'aid and assist' in his defense. However, since he is wholly immersed in his fantasies, he tends to perservere and may spend the rest of the evaluation meeting blabbering nonsense. But, he could learn these answers. A lot of it may well be news to him. In spite of his previous encounters, I wonder how much of this process he understands even on a basic level.
In the report of the evaluation meeting, there is sometimes a diagnosis, and the doctor can have an unofficial opinion whether he is fit to proceed. All of the other documentation of his behaviour is also taken into consideration, as well as whether or not there has been any progress (usually evaluated shortly after admission, in 90 days, and again nearing 180 days).
If he is deemed fit to stand trial at the end of the treatment, they will be back in court. Mr. Heilberg is smart to time this to conclude (probably) with the end of what would be the usual time served. It is very likely that the timeline of his transfer has more to do with availability of a locked mental health bed than anything else.
Meanwhile, the staff/his attorney/their staff/social workers etc., have probably been looking for a secured facility for him. It will be likely he will be considered a sex offender even if he does not have to register (I do not know what that criteria includes or doesn't), so this will basically be a fairly secure home for adult male retards. Where that ends up being is going to be entirely dependent on what is available.

tl:dr Maybe, but I'll bet the rent he's in a state hospital.

Thanks for the info. Do you have an idea of what a defendant would have to know about their own case to be competent? That's probably very tricky as those details are exactly what the possible trial would be about, but it seems that some understanding is required.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Thanks for the info. Do you have an idea of what a defendant would have to know about their own case to be competent? That's probably very tricky as those details are exactly what the possible trial would be about, but it seems that some understanding is required.

Hypothetical example:
"Do you know what your charges are?"
"Well, they say I burned down that apartment house, but it wasn't me, it was my twin brother from another dimension."
"What do they call burning down an apartment house?"
"My lawyer told me it was something called arson felony, but it wasn't me, it was my twin brother."
"Is a felony worse than a midemeanor?"
"What's a misdemeanor?"
------------------

Things like that. In this case the patient is technically correct, even though in the next breath they might tell you they are an interdimension unicorn pony.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

<powerlevel> Not a mental health professional, but I am courtroom staff and have clerked Aid & Assist hearings. The following is based only on my experience and reading the documents involved in these cases.</powerlevel>

Primarily what happens in the course of treatment in a state hospital for defendants is that they are required to attend legal education classes. This may or may not be a benefit to them initially, but usually once the Rx is sorted out and they become more responsive, they become well enough to clear that very low bar. Examples of the questions they must be able to answer (recorded in the psych reports) are:

• What are you charged with?
• Do you know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor? Which is worse?
• How should you behave in the courtroom?
• What does your defense attorney do? Do you get along with them all right?
• If you need to ask your defense attorney a question during court, what should you do?
• What does the judge in the courtroom do?
• What does the prosecutor in the courtroom do?

Things like that. Chris could learn the 'correct' answers and memorize them in time, because they really don't touch upon his fantasy. If he isn't persistent about his craziness during this particular part of the evaluation, he can probably be determined to 'aid and assist' in his defense. However, since he is wholly immersed in his fantasies, he tends to perservere and may spend the rest of the evaluation meeting blabbering nonsense. But, he could learn these answers. A lot of it may well be news to him. In spite of his previous encounters, I wonder how much of this process he understands even on a basic level.
In the report of the evaluation meeting, there is sometimes a diagnosis, and the doctor can have an unofficial opinion whether he is fit to proceed. All of the other documentation of his behaviour is also taken into consideration, as well as whether or not there has been any progress (usually evaluated shortly after admission, in 90 days, and again nearing 180 days).
If he is deemed fit to stand trial at the end of the treatment, they will be back in court. Mr. Heilberg is smart to time this to conclude (probably) with the end of what would be the usual time served. It is very likely that the timeline of his transfer has more to do with availability of a locked mental health bed than anything else.
Meanwhile, the staff/his attorney/their staff/social workers etc., have probably been looking for a secured facility for him. It will be likely he will be considered a sex offender even if he does not have to register (I do not know what that criteria includes or doesn't), so this will basically be a fairly secure home for adult male retards. Where that ends up being is going to be entirely dependent on what is available.

tl:dr Maybe, but I'll bet the rent he's in a state hospital.

Fucking God-tier post. Will link to in FAQ.